RodeoSchro said:

Graycap23 said:

As opposed 2 the scrub they have playing at the moment?

I hate to say it, because VY is a Houston guy and seemed to be a good dude, but he's a cancer. He's got athleticism, but the gap between him and Michael Vick is miles wide. VY can't pass to save his life, and apparently will not try to learn.

Tennessee, IMO, has NO options at quarterback that are acceptable. Bud Adams is an idiot, but we in Houston have known that for a long, long time.

Interesting. It's hard 2 tell what is really going on from my viewpoint.

I'll take your word 4 it.

RodeoSchro said:

SCNDLS said:

I think his mind is fine, but you're right about the coaching. The Cowboys would have to get rid of Garrett which I'm scurred ain't happening.

VY needs to grow up and quit hanging out at the script clubs.

99.9% of players hang out at strip clubs and a large amount of the general male population. That ain't got nothing to do with him being a good player/person.

RodeoSchro said:

Graycap23 said:

As opposed 2 the scrub they have playing at the moment?

I hate to say it, because VY is a Houston guy and seemed to be a good dude, but he's a cancer. He's got athleticism, but the gap between him and Michael Vick is miles wide. VY can't pass to save his life, and apparently will not try to learn.

Tennessee, IMO, has NO options at quarterback that are acceptable. Bud Adams is an idiot, but we in Houston have known that for a long, long time.

I think "cancer" is extreme since Fisher fed so much BS to the media. It's hard to know what's real and what isn't. I would reserve judgment after seeing VY perform in another environment on a team where the coach actually wants him there.

SCNDLS said:

RodeoSchro said:

I hate to say it, because VY is a Houston guy and seemed to be a good dude, but he's a cancer. He's got athleticism, but the gap between him and Michael Vick is miles wide. VY can't pass to save his life, and apparently will not try to learn.

Tennessee, IMO, has NO options at quarterback that are acceptable. Bud Adams is an idiot, but we in Houston have known that for a long, long time.

I think "cancer" is extreme since Fisher fed so much BS to the media. It's hard to know what's real and what isn't. I would reserve judgment after seeing VY perform in another environment on a team where the coach actually wants him there.

I think most of Rodeo's post is inaccurate, except that Vick is superior and that Bud is an idiot. VY is no cancer. He is the de facto leader of his team in that the players rally around him. The team has a superior win percentage with him at the helm, and an abyssmal losing record when he is not.

And according to what I saw on another MB he is still has the 4th best QB rating in the league. I'm not sure if that's for this year or among all active QB's So he has grown tremendously as a passer over the years, which is what all the anal-ists said he couldn't and still won't do. Um'kay...

Adisa said:

SCNDLS said:

I think "cancer" is extreme since Fisher fed so much BS to the media. It's hard to know what's real and what isn't. I would reserve judgment after seeing VY perform in another environment on a team where the coach actually wants him there.

I think most of Rodeo's post is inaccurate, except that Vick is superior and that Bud is an idiot. VY is no cancer. He is the de facto leader of his team in that the players rally around him. The team has a superior win percentage with him at the helm, and an abyssmal losing record when he is not.

And according to what I saw on another MB he is still has the 4th best QB rating in the league. I'm not sure if that's for this year or among all active QB's So he has grown tremendously as a passer over the years, which is what all the anal-ists said he couldn't and still won't do. Um'kay...

Whoa there! Hey, first of all I am NOT a VY hater. I wanted the Texans to get him. All of Houston did! The largest furniture dealer in town ran full-page ads in the paper, urging Bob McNair to draft him with the number 1 pick. So let's get that out of the way.

You may have forgotten that Kerry Collins led the Titans to a 13-3 record in 2008, after VY got hurt in the first game.

Look, the fact is that Young doesn't handle adversity well. Remember the police looking for him in 2008 because the Titans thought he was going to kill himself? Young said he thought about retiring after his rookie year because football wasn't fun any more. Then this year, he literally got kicked off the team for his actions after hurting his thumb.

Anyone that's been around team sports long enough knows that instability will kill you. Young is a great athlete, a great competitor, but he has yet to prove he's a professional.

Jeff Fisher, on the other hand, is the longest-tenured coach in the NFL. He played in the NFL. He knows what he's doing.

I'd listen long and hard to what Fisher has to say, because I think he's got the experience and smarts to know what's good and what's bad for a football team.

SCNDLS said:

RodeoSchro said:

VY needs to grow up and quit hanging out at the script clubs.

99.9% of players hang out at strip clubs and a large amount of the general male population. That ain't got nothing to do with him being a good player/person.

When you start getting in fist fights at the script club, then I'd say it does have something to do with his maturity.

RodeoSchro said:

SCNDLS said:

99.9% of players hang out at strip clubs and a large amount of the general male population. That ain't got nothing to do with him being a good player/person.

When you start getting in fist fights at the script club, then I'd say it does have something to do with his maturity.

Geez, that was one time. Has there been any indication this is a regular occurence with him. Furthermore, I've been with athletes many times and seen folks goad them and initiate shit with them. When it hits the press, whose name they gonna print? VY is not Pacman.

And for the record, it's skrip club

The way you're spelling it makes it look like they're gathering to write screenplays or some shit

BTW, the skrip club incident was started by a patron as VY was leaving and dude goaded him by flashing a downwards Hook 'em Horns sign and talking a bunch of shit about VY and the Horns. Now, Rodeo you know for the average UT alum them's fighting words, so how you expect the championship winning quarterback to walk away from that shit at the club??? Yeah, dude knew he was gettin' a fat lip that night.

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What'd I say?

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Tennessee Titans owner Bud Adams says it's time to let Vince Young go and for the franchise to find its next quarterback.

The Titans released a statement Wednesday night in which Adams said Young won't be on the team's roster next season, but he's still evaluating the coaching staff.

"We have two critical decisions to make, the direction of the coaching staff and the future at the quarterback position. They are separate issues to me and will be dealt with separately," Adams said.

Adams is the owner who wanted Young drafted No. 3 overall out of Texas in 2006 and said on draft day that "VY is my guy." But with his general manager and senior executive vice president traveling to Houston to meet with Adams on Monday, the 88-year-old owner decided Young no longer is the quarterback for his franchise.

Young is 30-17 in his five NFL seasons, but only 13-14 against teams finishing a season at .500 or better. He's also battled questions over his work ethic, leadership and injuries. He suffered a season-ending thumb injury on his right hand Nov. 21, tossed his shoulder pads into the stands and told off coach Jeff Fisher in front of the locker room before storming out.

The quarterback is due a roster bonus of $4.25 million in March and an $8.5 million salary for 2011.

Adams said he informed general manager Mike Reinfeldt to start identifying the team's next quarterback and thanked Young for his contributions to the team.

"These kinds of decisions are never easy and this is especially true for this particular player. I certainly wish that things would have worked out better, but I think it is best for the franchise that we move on at this point," Adams said.

Reinfeldt informed agent Tom Condon that Young isn't in the team's plans for the future. League rules keep Young from being released until Feb. 7, and he cannot be traded until the first day of the league year -- an uncertain date because of the labor unrest. Reinfeldt says Young is welcome to rehab his season-ending thumb injury at the team facility.

Adams also said in his statement that he informed Fisher he still is evaluating the coaching staff.

"I am hoping to make a decision soon," Adams said.

Fisher could not be reached for comment Wednesday night.

He is the NFL's longest-tenured coach with his current team, having just finished his 16th full season and coached his 273rd game with the Titans. Tennessee started this season with high expectations and was atop the AFC South at 5-2 before losing eight of the final nine games to finish 6-10.

Fisher said during his weekly radio show Tuesday night that talks with the team were ongoing. His job status has been in question since the Titans lost eight of their final nine games for a 6-10 record, but the NFL's uncertain labor situation could keep him around.

"We didn't anticipate coming to any decisions or conclusions or solutions, if you will, today," Fisher said at the start of his show. "Talks have been ongoing. As I said yesterday, it's a process. It's a complicated process, and there's a lot of moving parts. We're all trusting that collectively we'll arrive at the best decision."

Fisher is under contract for 2011 at an estimated $6.5 million.

[Edited 1/5/11 16:54pm]

RodeoSchro said:

Adisa said:

I think most of Rodeo's post is inaccurate, except that Vick is superior and that Bud is an idiot. VY is no cancer. He is the de facto leader of his team in that the players rally around him. The team has a superior win percentage with him at the helm, and an abyssmal losing record when he is not.

And according to what I saw on another MB he is still has the 4th best QB rating in the league. I'm not sure if that's for this year or among all active QB's So he has grown tremendously as a passer over the years, which is what all the anal-ists said he couldn't and still won't do. Um'kay...

Whoa there! Hey, first of all I am NOT a VY hater. I wanted the Texans to get him. All of Houston did! The largest furniture dealer in town ran full-page ads in the paper, urging Bob McNair to draft him with the number 1 pick. So let's get that out of the way.

You may have forgotten that Kerry Collins led the Titans to a 13-3 record in 2008, after VY got hurt in the first game.

Look, the fact is that Young doesn't handle adversity well. Remember the police looking for him in 2008 because the Titans thought he was going to kill himself? Young said he thought about retiring after his rookie year because football wasn't fun any more. Then this year, he literally got kicked off the team for his actions after hurting his thumb.

Anyone that's been around team sports long enough knows that instability will kill you. Young is a great athlete, a great competitor, but he has yet to prove he's a professional.

Jeff Fisher, on the other hand, is the longest-tenured coach in the NFL. He played in the NFL. He knows what he's doing.

I'd listen long and hard to what Fisher has to say, because I think he's got the experience and smarts to know what's good and what's bad for a football team.

1. Nobody is accusing of you of being of Y hater.

2. So what about the 123-3 season. For his entire career Coolins is a below .500 QB. Look it up.

3. Fisher was the one who called the police after VY's Mom called him and said she couldn't get in touch with VY. And Fisher's media cronies is the one who fabricated the whole suicide nonsense, just like they fabricated thathe threw his equipment in the stands earlier this year. The shit didn't happen.

4. VY's rookie year was almost 5 years ago. So what if he said he wasn't having fun. I've been in profession for over 15 and not a day goes by where I don't think "WTF am I do this shit for? I'm supposed to be touring with prince right now!"

5. Jeff Fisher doesn't know what he is doing when it comes to football, but he knows damned well how to manipulate situations and people to cover his own ass. He coches like it's still 1985 and he's still a Chicago Bear. The game has changed since then.

To SCNDLS, now VY can go ahead and do is thing elsewhere. Hopefully he will do well wherever he goes. But notice that Fish is still not off the hook, pun intended. Fans will be ok with Vince gone, but there will be vacant seats like an MF if Fish comes back next year....asumming there will be a next year for NFL football.

I can't tell you how much I love the local boards, man.

http://www.tennessean.com...ince-Young

Adisa said:

To SCNDLS, now VY can go ahead and do is thing elsewhere. Hopefully he will do well wherever he goes. But notice that Fish is still not off the hook, pun intended. Fans will be ok with Vince gone, but there will be vacant seats like an MF if Fish comes back next year....asumming there will be a next year for NFL football.

I'm tempted to say this is awesome for Vince Young to finally go to a team with a coach who wants him, but this could be an "Oh crap" moment for my Chicago Bears and the Green Bay Packers. If Vince Young does get traded, he could end up in Minnesota as the heir apparent to Brett Favre. He already has one of the highest winning percentages in football despite having a coach trying to sabotage him and having little to work with other than one really good running back. Now imagine him leading an offense with another great running back in Adrian Peterson plus a healthy Sidney Rice, Percy Harvin and Visanthe Shiancoe, and they could be as good as they were in 2009.

[Edited 1/5/11 18:15pm]

728huey said:

Adisa said:

To SCNDLS, now VY can go ahead and do is thing elsewhere. Hopefully he will do well wherever he goes. But notice that Fish is still not off the hook, pun intended. Fans will be ok with Vince gone, but there will be vacant seats like an MF if Fish comes back next year....asumming there will be a next year for NFL football.

I'm tempted to say this is awesome for Vince Young to finally go to a team with a coach who wants him, but this could be an "Oh crap" moment for my Chicago Bears and the Green Bay Packers. If Vince Young does get traded, he could end up in Minnesota as the heir apparent to Brett Favre. He already has one of the highest winning percentages in football despite having a coach trying to sabotage him and having little to work with other than one really good running back. Now imagine him leading an offense with another great running back in Adrian Peterson plus a healthy Sidney Rice, Percy Harvin and Visanthe Shiancoe, and they could be as good as they were in 2009.

[Edited 1/5/11 18:15pm]

Minnie might be a great fit for him with AP another Texas boy.

I KNEW all these neetings and shit were NOT a good sign. I mean, WTF is left to talk about???

[Edited 1/5/11 20:17pm]

SCNDLS said:

What'd I say?

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Tennessee Titans owner Bud Adams says it's time to let Vince Young go and for the franchise to find its next quarterback.

The Titans released a statement Wednesday night in which Adams said Young won't be on the team's roster next season, but he's still evaluating the coaching staff.

"We have two critical decisions to make, the direction of the coaching staff and the future at the quarterback position. They are separate issues to me and will be dealt with separately," Adams said.

Adams is the owner who wanted Young drafted No. 3 overall out of Texas in 2006 and said on draft day that "VY is my guy." But with his general manager and senior executive vice president traveling to Houston to meet with Adams on Monday, the 88-year-old owner decided Young no longer is the quarterback for his franchise.

Young is 30-17 in his five NFL seasons, but only 13-14 against teams finishing a season at .500 or better. He's also battled questions over his work ethic, leadership and injuries. He suffered a season-ending thumb injury on his right hand Nov. 21, tossed his shoulder pads into the stands and told off coach Jeff Fisher in front of the locker room before storming out.

The quarterback is due a roster bonus of $4.25 million in March and an $8.5 million salary for 2011.

Adams said he informed general manager Mike Reinfeldt to start identifying the team's next quarterback and thanked Young for his contributions to the team.

"These kinds of decisions are never easy and this is especially true for this particular player. I certainly wish that things would have worked out better, but I think it is best for the franchise that we move on at this point," Adams said.

Reinfeldt informed agent Tom Condon that Young isn't in the team's plans for the future. League rules keep Young from being released until Feb. 7, and he cannot be traded until the first day of the league year -- an uncertain date because of the labor unrest. Reinfeldt says Young is welcome to rehab his season-ending thumb injury at the team facility.

Adams also said in his statement that he informed Fisher he still is evaluating the coaching staff.

"I am hoping to make a decision soon," Adams said.

Fisher could not be reached for comment Wednesday night.

He is the NFL's longest-tenured coach with his current team, having just finished his 16th full season and coached his 273rd game with the Titans. Tennessee started this season with high expectations and was atop the AFC South at 5-2 before losing eight of the final nine games to finish 6-10.

Fisher said during his weekly radio show Tuesday night that talks with the team were ongoing. His job status has been in question since the Titans lost eight of their final nine games for a 6-10 record, but the NFL's uncertain labor situation could keep him around.

"We didn't anticipate coming to any decisions or conclusions or solutions, if you will, today," Fisher said at the start of his show. "Talks have been ongoing. As I said yesterday, it's a process. It's a complicated process, and there's a lot of moving parts. We're all trusting that collectively we'll arrive at the best decision."

Fisher is under contract for 2011 at an estimated $6.5 million.

[Edited 1/5/11 16:54pm]

So sad. I still think he's a winner but he has a lot of growing up to do. I hope he does it, but he better do it fast. His second, and probably last, chance is the 2011 season.

RodeoSchro said:

SCNDLS said:

What'd I say?

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Tennessee Titans owner Bud Adams says it's time to let Vince Young go and for the franchise to find its next quarterback.

The Titans released a statement Wednesday night in which Adams said Young won't be on the team's roster next season, but he's still evaluating the coaching staff.

"We have two critical decisions to make, the direction of the coaching staff and the future at the quarterback position. They are separate issues to me and will be dealt with separately," Adams said.

Adams is the owner who wanted Young drafted No. 3 overall out of Texas in 2006 and said on draft day that "VY is my guy." But with his general manager and senior executive vice president traveling to Houston to meet with Adams on Monday, the 88-year-old owner decided Young no longer is the quarterback for his franchise.

Young is 30-17 in his five NFL seasons, but only 13-14 against teams finishing a season at .500 or better. He's also battled questions over his work ethic, leadership and injuries. He suffered a season-ending thumb injury on his right hand Nov. 21, tossed his shoulder pads into the stands and told off coach Jeff Fisher in front of the locker room before storming out.

The quarterback is due a roster bonus of $4.25 million in March and an $8.5 million salary for 2011.

Adams said he informed general manager Mike Reinfeldt to start identifying the team's next quarterback and thanked Young for his contributions to the team.

"These kinds of decisions are never easy and this is especially true for this particular player. I certainly wish that things would have worked out better, but I think it is best for the franchise that we move on at this point," Adams said.

Reinfeldt informed agent Tom Condon that Young isn't in the team's plans for the future. League rules keep Young from being released until Feb. 7, and he cannot be traded until the first day of the league year -- an uncertain date because of the labor unrest. Reinfeldt says Young is welcome to rehab his season-ending thumb injury at the team facility.

Adams also said in his statement that he informed Fisher he still is evaluating the coaching staff.

"I am hoping to make a decision soon," Adams said.

Fisher could not be reached for comment Wednesday night.

He is the NFL's longest-tenured coach with his current team, having just finished his 16th full season and coached his 273rd game with the Titans. Tennessee started this season with high expectations and was atop the AFC South at 5-2 before losing eight of the final nine games to finish 6-10.

Fisher said during his weekly radio show Tuesday night that talks with the team were ongoing. His job status has been in question since the Titans lost eight of their final nine games for a 6-10 record, but the NFL's uncertain labor situation could keep him around.

"We didn't anticipate coming to any decisions or conclusions or solutions, if you will, today," Fisher said at the start of his show. "Talks have been ongoing. As I said yesterday, it's a process. It's a complicated process, and there's a lot of moving parts. We're all trusting that collectively we'll arrive at the best decision."

Fisher is under contract for 2011 at an estimated $6.5 million.

[Edited 1/5/11 16:54pm]

So sad. I still think he's a winner but he has a lot of growing up to do. I hope he does it, but he better do it fast. His second, and probably last, chance is the 2011 season.

Rodeo, boo, please stop. With the dearth in the league of athletic QBs best believe even if things don't work out with his NEXT team if he's still effective on the field any number of teams will snap him up again. Look at that nutcase Randy Moss and Michael Vick. MV admitted to choking dogs with his bare hands and went to prison now he's at the top of his game. If he kicks a dog tomorrow and the Eagles cut him best believe other teams will pick him up.

SCNDLS said:

MV admitted to choking dogs with his bare hands and went to prison now he's at the top of his game. If he kicks a dog tomorrow and the Eagles cut him best believe other teams will pick him up.

But that's only because he smartened up, and fell into a sweet situation where he received excellent coaching. Vince needs to go to the right team, with a great coach and an offense that fits his skills. McNabb went to the wrong team and you saw what happened.

uPtoWnNY said:

SCNDLS said:

But that's only because he smartened up, and fell into a sweet situation where he received excellent coaching. Vince needs to go to the right team, with a great coach and an offense that fits his skills. McNabb went to the wrong team and you saw what happened.

I'm referring moreso to the character/maturity issue. No matter what VY does in the future if he's still productive teams will line up to give him a chance.

uPtoWnNY said:

SCNDLS said:

But that's only because he smartened up, and fell into a sweet situation where he received excellent coaching. Vince needs to go to the right team, with a great coach and an offense that fits his skills. McNabb went to the wrong team and you saw what happened.

But what team would that be?

The Patriots don't need a QB. Neither does Tampa Bay. Tebow owns Denver for the time being.

The Bengals maybe, but they are a mess. Hey, how about the Browns? He could compete with his successor at Texas, Colt McCoy. McCoy would win, though.

Ummm, let's see. Detroit? No, they've got Matthew Stafford.

The Vikings! Who's really sold on Joe Webb? Well, maybe their coach. So let's keep going.

Oakland? Oakland! Although they just fired their head coach, so who knows what the situation there will be. Carolina - same thing.

Miami? Man, I don't see him hanging out with Ricky Williams as a positive thing. Not to mention running with LeBron and his crew. VY would never last in Miami.

Buffalo? They have nothing and nowhere to go but up. Maybe that's the place.

I've got it - the Washington Redskins! Great coach, great atmosphere. However, Shanahan brooks NO B.S. AT ALL. Just ask Albert Haynesworth or Donovan McNabb. Can VY be a good team mate and stay straight?

Well, that's a big "if" but maybe the Redskins are the best place for him.

RodeoSchro said:

uPtoWnNY said:

But that's only because he smartened up, and fell into a sweet situation where he received excellent coaching. Vince needs to go to the right team, with a great coach and an offense that fits his skills. McNabb went to the wrong team and you saw what happened.

But what team would that be?

The Patriots don't need a QB. Neither does Tampa Bay. Tebow owns Denver for the time being.

The Bengals maybe, but they are a mess. Hey, how about the Browns? He could compete with his successor at Texas, Colt McCoy. McCoy would win, though.

Ummm, let's see. Detroit? No, they've got Matthew Stafford.

The Vikings! Who's really sold on Joe Webb? Well, maybe their coach. So let's keep going.

Oakland? Oakland! Although they just fired their head coach, so who knows what the situation there will be. Carolina - same thing.

Miami? Man, I don't see him hanging out with Ricky Williams as a positive thing. Not to mention running with LeBron and his crew. VY would never last in Miami.

Buffalo? They have nothing and nowhere to go but up. Maybe that's the place.

I've got it - the Washington Redskins! Great coach, great atmosphere. However, Shanahan brooks NO B.S. AT ALL. Just ask Albert Haynesworth or Donovan McNabb. Can VY be a good team mate and stay straight?

Well, that's a big "if" but maybe the Redskins are the best place for him.

You know what, I'm done witchu, Rodeo. You crazy if you think Washington would be a good fit for him after the Shanahanigans that went on this season with McNabb.

And what's so wrong with Ricky Williams? He has clinical issues that he's kept in check for years now. Ricky didn't have off the field issues other than his mental health situation which he was self-medicating. And he's been a solid back for the Dolphins especially considering his age. So that's not really fair.

And e'rybody KNOWS I loves me some Colt McCoy but, again with all Christian love and kindness, yo ass is crazy if you think he's a better QB than VY. Simply nutty, but I'll still meet you at Campesi's tho.

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Adisa said:

RodeoSchro said:

Whoa there! Hey, first of all I am NOT a VY hater. I wanted the Texans to get him. All of Houston did! The largest furniture dealer in town ran full-page ads in the paper, urging Bob McNair to draft him with the number 1 pick. So let's get that out of the way.

You may have forgotten that Kerry Collins led the Titans to a 13-3 record in 2008, after VY got hurt in the first game.

Look, the fact is that Young doesn't handle adversity well. Remember the police looking for him in 2008 because the Titans thought he was going to kill himself? Young said he thought about retiring after his rookie year because football wasn't fun any more. Then this year, he literally got kicked off the team for his actions after hurting his thumb.

Anyone that's been around team sports long enough knows that instability will kill you. Young is a great athlete, a great competitor, but he has yet to prove he's a professional.

Jeff Fisher, on the other hand, is the longest-tenured coach in the NFL. He played in the NFL. He knows what he's doing.

I'd listen long and hard to what Fisher has to say, because I think he's got the experience and smarts to know what's good and what's bad for a football team.

1. Nobody is accusing of you of being of Y hater.

2. So what about the 123-3 season. For his entire career Coolins is a below .500 QB. Look it up.

3. Fisher was the one who called the police after VY's Mom called him and said she couldn't get in touch with VY. And Fisher's media cronies is the one who fabricated the whole suicide nonsense, just like they fabricated thathe threw his equipment in the stands earlier this year. The shit didn't happen.

4. VY's rookie year was almost 5 years ago. So what if he said he wasn't having fun. I've been in profession for over 15 and not a day goes by where I don't think "WTF am I do this shit for? I'm supposed to be touring with prince right now!"

5. Jeff Fisher doesn't know what he is doing when it comes to football, but he knows damned well how to manipulate situations and people to cover his own ass. He coches like it's still 1985 and he's still a Chicago Bear. The game has changed since then.

To SCNDLS, now VY can go ahead and do is thing elsewhere. Hopefully he will do well wherever he goes. But notice that Fish is still not off the hook, pun intended. Fans will be ok with Vince gone, but there will be vacant seats like an MF if Fish comes back next year....asumming there will be a next year for NFL football.

I don't know the method to your madness with Fisher. Now if you go by the theory what

have you done for me lately then you are somewhat right about Fish but to say this guy

hasn't been a good coach is a little over the top. During the Steve McNair and Eddie George

era, this team was consistently among the best teams in the AFC. They played old school power

football and battled hard in the old AFC Central with the Steelers, Ravens, Jaguars, and Bengals.

As for VY, the jury still is out. He does have a good winning percentage and good upside but

even some of those games Vince did win, he didn't have to put the ball in the air a lot because

Chris Johnson was putting up good numbers.

Vince is done in Tennesee.

Now all of a sudden Jim Harbaugh is a hot commodity. Supposedly, the Niners, Broncos, Dolphins and MichiganU are interested.

uPtoWnNY said:

Now all of a sudden Jim Harbaugh is a hot commodity. Supposedly, the Niners, Broncos, Dolphins and MichiganU are interested.

Why? I don't get it.

http://sports.espn.go.com...id=5993142

Vince being traded.

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Now all of a sudden Jim Harbaugh is a hot commodity. Supposedly, the Niners, Broncos, Dolphins and MichiganU are interested.

Why? I don't get it.

I heard Sporano's done, with Harbaugh taking his place. Trying to find the link.

More news:

Garrett is staying at Dallas.

Eric LeGrand has movement in his shoulders and sensation in his body. Keep your fingers crossed for this young man.

phunkdaddy said:

I don't know the method to your madness with Fisher. Now if you go by the theory what

have you done for me lately then you are somewhat right about Fish but to say this guy

hasn't been a good coach is a little over the top. During the Steve McNair and Eddie George

era, this team was consistently among the best teams in the AFC. They played old school power

football and battled hard in the old AFC Central with the Steelers, Ravens, Jaguars, and Bengals.

As for VY, the jury still is out. He does have a good winning percentage and good upside but

even some of those games Vince did win, he didn't have to put the ball in the air a lot because

Chris Johnson was putting up good numbers.

Dude, legitimalety, the Titans were supposed to be the Patriots of the decade. Fish blew 3 great opportunities to win a ring, and I'm not even talking about the lone SB appearance because trhat was a Cinderella season. They didn't even win the division that year, the Jaguars did. The 2001-2002 season the Titans were the best in the league, but we got outcoached by the Ravens all season, and THEY won the SB. The year McNair won MVP, we went to Oakland in the AFC Championship game, got up to a 17-14 lead, had the ball on offense, and Fish thought it was 1985 again. 3 and out, trying to run the ball too much when we have an MVP QB. We punted, and the Raiders put a serious beatdown on that ass. Went 13-3 a few years ago and were the SB favorites again, and here come the Ravens again.

He had his time, he had his moments. But that time has passed. The game has passed, and apparently so has his coaching style. Notice his former teammate out in SF? Same coaching style, same records this season.

Time to go.

Owner Jerry Jones officially removed the interim label Thursday. He said Garrett has “spent his entire life preparing for this day. And he’s well-qualified.”

Garrett made the choice easy for Jones by going 5-3 during his half-season in charge. He took over a club that had been 1-7 when Wade Phillips was fired.

Garrett was asked to merely make them competitive. He not only compiled a winning record, but his losses were by a total of seven points.

The fact that they coulda went undefeated under Garrett and didn't does not bode well for the future. When will Jerry learn???

And what the fuck is up with teams not following the Rooney rule?

[Edited 1/6/11 12:04pm]

John Clayton is on Sportscenter saying that Fish is staying in TN no matter what. Oh well.

Bad news for Carolina Panther fans - Luck is going back to Stanford for another year.