I'm tellin; ya. I am not happy at all with his new school.

First of all, I've met with his teacher once for parent teacher conferences, and I think she's on qualudes, or heavily tranquilized.

Ok, so on his report card he got all A's and all of his eval's were good except behavior was N for Needs Improvement. I asked him why this may be, and he had no answer.

So at the conference, I asked her how he was doing, and she said he's at the top of the class for reading and math, and I said okay but what about the bnehavior?? And she just kinda shrugged and looked at me like she didn't know what I was talking about. I said, I noticed he has an N for needs improvemnet, I said, what is he up to? And she was like, oh well its nothing really he's a boy, he'll calm down. I said, can you give me solid examples of what he is doing so I can talk to him about it? She said, you don't need to talk to him, he just makes bad choices sometimes.

I said, you're not going to offend me by telling me what he is doing, I know he is no angel. AGAIN, she said nothing and gave me no examples, which really frustrated me, but okay.

So then Noah has been coming home talking about this boy Brody punching him all the time and stealing stuff out of his desk. I said, well what do you do when he does that? And he said he tells the teacher and she just tells him to go sit down.

So. He came home with a really deep scratch in his arm the one day, and again he said it was from this boy, I was like, WHAT DID YOU DO ARE YOU STARTING WITH HIM OR WHAT???? And he's like no he sits right next to me and my teacher yells at me to sit down when I tell on him. I'm thinking, no way, theres more to it than that.

So I call the school and leave a message with is teacher to call me back and ask if maybe she can move their seats away from eachother.

Well I just got a call from the principal saying I wanted to call and let you know about an incident in the class room today, Noah may have been pushed by a little boy, we had all of the kids checked out by the nurse and your son is okay but we wanted to call and assure you everything is okay. I'm like, ummmm, I called earlier today, I'm concerned with some violence in the classroom and I keep asking my son WHERE IS HIS TEACHER when this is going on, and the principal said, we are well aware, you're not the first to call. If you have any further questions CALL TOMORROW.

W.T.F. is going on??????

Oh, and I also asked the principal what type of inciddent was it, that all the kids had to go to the nurse?????

And he said Noah could tell me when he got home.........................

So obviously it was like, look schools over I'm off the clock but I gotta make these fuckin calls call back tomorrow if ya wanna talk.

So Noah is home now with Todd I talked to him on the phone and apparently some kid went ape shit and started beating the shit out of everyone. Including the teacher. Ugh.

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What the hell?

Well at least you're involved and trying to deal with this and I commend you on that.

Our youngest niece didn't want to go to school because some boy teased her. She was making herself "sick" before school (or the night before) and throwing tantrums so my Sis in Law pulls her out to home school.

Way to teach how to deal with problems.

I've not gone off because we have so much going on at the moment. We called to wish sis happy birthday the other day and I asked about this (I thought they were just considering this, not that the child had been pulled already) and Ron is in front of me WAVIN his arms wildly for me not to start shit.

As if I would do such a thing.

I'm glad you're taking the time to be involved and handle these things. I think your son will remember and be appreciative of this.

johnart said:

Well at least you're involved and trying to deal with this and I commend you on that.

Our youngest niece didn't want to go to school because some boy teased her. She was making herself "sick" before school (or the night before) and throwing tantrums so my Sis in Law pulls her out to home school.

Way to teach how to deal with problems.

I've not gone off because we have so much going on at the moment. We called to wish sis happy birthday the other day and I asked about this (I thought they were just considering this, not that the child had been pulled already) and Ron is in front of me WAVIN his arms wildly for me not to start shit.

As if I would do such a thing.

I'm glad you're taking the time to be involved and handle these things. I think your son will remember and be appreciative of this.

Sorry.

How old is your neice?

Ya, I myself, would not choose homeschooling but everyone is different.

It's just frustrating because it's like 8 hours a day they are away from you, and you DON'T KNOW what is going on and can't protect them in that 8 hrs.....then when you have a dip shit of a teacher who doesn't seem like she wants to be there or even knows what planet she is on, it makes it that much harder.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

johnart said:

Well at least you're involved and trying to deal with this and I commend you on that.

Our youngest niece didn't want to go to school because some boy teased her. She was making herself "sick" before school (or the night before) and throwing tantrums so my Sis in Law pulls her out to home school.

Way to teach how to deal with problems.

I've not gone off because we have so much going on at the moment. We called to wish sis happy birthday the other day and I asked about this (I thought they were just considering this, not that the child had been pulled already) and Ron is in front of me WAVIN his arms wildly for me not to start shit.

As if I would do such a thing.

I'm glad you're taking the time to be involved and handle these things. I think your son will remember and be appreciative of this.

Sorry.

How old is your neice?

Ya, I myself, would not choose homeschooling but everyone is different.

It's just frustrating because it's like 8 hours a day they are away from you, and you DON'T KNOW what is going on and can't protect them in that 8 hrs.....then when you have a dip shit of a teacher who doesn't seem like she wants to be there or even knows what planet she is on, it makes it that much harder.

She's 9 now...I think (I always gotta start from the oldest and count the age difference backwards ) I won't even get into their situation because I'll end up jacking your thread without meaning to. I'll go off about this on a separate thread and extensively at some point after our move, I'm sure.

Tell Noah to punch that kid in the mouth as hard as he can the next time dude hits him.

spelling is not your strong suit, is it.

that, or you're drinking.

I'm not for group violence or anything...

But these kids need to team up and beat his ass. Any time he messes with any one of them.

seems that kid has behavioural issues that aren't being managed.

My son has a kid in his class who used to do stuff like that (chair throwing, hitting, kicking, screaming, swearing) but the school is working with him and his parents to control it. The kid is very bright and has great potential, but he is very sensitive to sounds and suprises, and can completely loose his cool - so now he is doing an anger management program and at the end of each day goes to the vice-principal's office to get a star for his chart, and he is very proud at his progress. He got a student of the week certificate the other day!

This doesn't surprise me. Once when I was 6, a big, butch-ass, ugly girl slapped me hard in gym class. I told my father, he went to the principal and wanted something done. The principal told me I should've hit her back, or get self-defense lessons. Really now?

It's not in my nature to hurt someone (unless I really have to, so don't get no ideas). But that was a day I'll never forget. Thank God I transferred out...

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RodeoSchro said:

Tell Noah to punch that kid in the mouth as hard as he can the next time dude hits him.

This is how my mom taught me.

Big kudos to you TotalANXiousNESS for staying involved... in this day and age you have to be aware and concerned. Be a thorn in that teachers/principals/schools side.

I know I shouldn't have done it but I did.

A much bigger boy (in that last year at junior school) was bullying my daughter, teasing her and started to get physical i.e. slapping and punching and a couple of kicks as well.

Well the teachers did bugger all and so I waited after school for him, grabbed him by the throat had him up against a wall and threatened that I would rip his balls off and shove them in his mouth if he touched my daughter again.

Funny enough he left her alone after that......

blueblossom said:

I know I shouldn't have done it but I did.

A much bigger boy (in that last year at junior school) was bullying my daughter, teasing her and started to get physical i.e. slapping and punching and a couple of kicks as well.

Well the teachers did bugger all and so I waited after school for him, grabbed him by the throat had him up against a wall and threatened that I would rip his balls off and shove them in his mouth if he touched my daughter again.

Funny enough he left her alone after that......

Oh mannn, well yeah, I think a guy TOUCHING your DAUGHTER warrants that kind of reaction.

I dunno, I struggle with the whole telling Noah to punch the kids thing. I WANT to tell him what my Dad told me, if anyone touched you pop em square in the nose....but I don't want him to think you have to resort to violence to resolve your issues. Yet at the same time, if the teacher isn't gonna do anything......

Plus my luck HE'D be the one getting suspended over it.

Leave a paper trail via email and the school will be forced to respond.

I hate it when some female teachers do not want to pay attention to the boys in the class and shrug off real concerns as "typical boys being boys".

My son in the 2nd grade had a fe,ale bully that was 3 years older than him in the SAME class!

She would take his hat/scarf/mittens daily and toss it (one of those items) in the garbage cans, and he would cry and have to fish out his stuff with no help from the teacher. He even got in trouble tryin g to get his own hat out of the garbage.

I had enough of the teacher not helping my son.

So I went to the school... and confronted the girl.

Told her if she touched my son again that I would beat the shit outta her until she bled ans couldn't move. Told her that I would beat the shit outta her mother too... in a quiet and evil way.

The girl started to cry.

That's when the principal and teachers took notice and then I told the teacher that if she didn't help my son, that I would find that little bitch off the school's property. I asked the teacher how would she feel if I snatched her hat off and threw it in the trash? I also had my finger up in that woman's face... my index finger was 1/16th " away from her nose, she was scared and her whole face was red from anger. She then apologized to me. I never yelled, just said disturbing shit to the people so they would realize how serious I was.

That little girl was finally dealt with.

This was ten years ago, things are different now. But you need to leave a trail of communication, so that your son's needs are met by the teacher.

final thought disappeared edit.-

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Last term my son was being bullied and harassed so I had to in the end go to the school because it was affecting him quite badly. I said to the head teacher that if they didn't deal with it and it stopped I would deal with it and it wouldn't be nice.... like confronting the kid and parent - I dont give a shit who I deal with - if you piss me off watch out!

TotalANXiousNESS said:

blueblossom said:

I know I shouldn't have done it but I did.

A much bigger boy (in that last year at junior school) was bullying my daughter, teasing her and started to get physical i.e. slapping and punching and a couple of kicks as well.

Well the teachers did bugger all and so I waited after school for him, grabbed him by the throat had him up against a wall and threatened that I would rip his balls off and shove them in his mouth if he touched my daughter again.

Funny enough he left her alone after that......

Oh mannn, well yeah, I think a guy TOUCHING your DAUGHTER warrants that kind of reaction.

I dunno, I struggle with the whole telling Noah to punch the kids thing. I WANT to tell him what my Dad told me, if anyone touched you pop em square in the nose....but I don't want him to think you have to resort to violence to resolve your issues. Yet at the same time, if the teacher isn't gonna do anything......

Plus my luck HE'D be the one getting suspended over it.

I agree, it's a complete bummer. And adults don't have to resort to violence because there are bigtime consequences if we do.

But kids are different. Kids know they can't get in any trouble if they are bullies. No adult is going to hit them. No one can take any money from them. They might get suspended from school? Awesome, they can stay home and play video games! So they bully, until someone stops them physically.

The good news is that it generally only takes one punch, one time, and problem solved forever.

Think Ralphie from "A Christmas Story", LOL. Scut Farkis never touched him again!

RodeoSchro said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Oh mannn, well yeah, I think a guy TOUCHING your DAUGHTER warrants that kind of reaction.

I dunno, I struggle with the whole telling Noah to punch the kids thing. I WANT to tell him what my Dad told me, if anyone touched you pop em square in the nose....but I don't want him to think you have to resort to violence to resolve your issues. Yet at the same time, if the teacher isn't gonna do anything......

Plus my luck HE'D be the one getting suspended over it.

I agree, it's a complete bummer. And adults don't have to resort to violence because there are bigtime consequences if we do.

But kids are different. Kids know they can't get in any trouble if they are bullies. No adult is going to hit them. No one can take any money from them. They might get suspended from school? Awesome, they can stay home and play video games! So they bully, until someone stops them physically.

The good news is that it generally only takes one punch, one time, and problem solved forever.

Think Ralphie from "A Christmas Story", LOL. Scut Farkis never touched him again!

This too may backfire, I will never recommend what I did. What I did was extreme and could get any parent in trouble in this day and age, but what if your son is being bullied by a girl?

Is it OK to teach him to fend for himself in the same way?

I teach my boys not to hit girls, but where I live some of these girls do not act like ladies at all.

paintedlady said:

RodeoSchro said:

I agree, it's a complete bummer. And adults don't have to resort to violence because there are bigtime consequences if we do.

But kids are different. Kids know they can't get in any trouble if they are bullies. No adult is going to hit them. No one can take any money from them. They might get suspended from school? Awesome, they can stay home and play video games! So they bully, until someone stops them physically.

The good news is that it generally only takes one punch, one time, and problem solved forever.

Think Ralphie from "A Christmas Story", LOL. Scut Farkis never touched him again!

This too may backfire, I will never recommend what I did. What I did was extreme and could get any parent in trouble in this day and age, but what if your son is being bullied by a girl?

Is it OK to teach him to fend for himself in the same way?

I teach my boys not to hit girls, but where I live some of these girls do not act like ladies at all.

No, boys can't hit girls.

RodeoSchro said:

paintedlady said:

This too may backfire, I will never recommend what I did. What I did was extreme and could get any parent in trouble in this day and age, but what if your son is being bullied by a girl?

Is it OK to teach him to fend for himself in the same way?

I teach my boys not to hit girls, but where I live some of these girls do not act like ladies at all.

No, boys can't hit girls.

Exactly, so girls know that and bully some boys. Especially if the boy is younger/smaller than the girl.

It gets tricky when the sex issue comes into play. I myself had to fight a boy bully, and he was bigger than me. He messed with me for two years until we had a drag out roll in the dirt fight.

The fight ended when I bit his wrist and drew blood, I was 12, he was 13. Punk.

With the Christmas holiday coming up, why don't you transfer him to a new school before the semester starts again? I mean, if it's a public school, it shouldn't be that big of a problem. That way his grades won't suffer when he restarts.

SherryJackson said:

With the Christmas holiday coming up, why don't you transfer him to a new school before the semester starts again? I mean, if it's a public school, it shouldn't be that big of a problem. That way his grades won't suffer when he restarts.

Depends, wait lists can be long, and she may not want her child shuffled to an under performing school.

Some districts also enforce a specific period for transfer in the school year, usually from Feb.- Sept. are requests only accepted. Again it varies from state to state.

Yeah, ther is no changing schools. The kids have to go to school in the school district they are living in, which just so happens to be the 'best' and most EXPENSIVE school district in this part of the state.

Glad I'm getting my tax moneys worth.

They'll be in a new and THANK GOD PERMANENT school district by next school year though.

Shot the teacher an email today by the way. Let ya's know what happens.

Thanks for all the comments.

blueblossom said:

I know I shouldn't have done it but I did.

A much bigger boy (in that last year at junior school) was bullying my daughter, teasing her and started to get physical i.e. slapping and punching and a couple of kicks as well.

Well the teachers did bugger all and so I waited after school for him, grabbed him by the throat had him up against a wall and threatened that I would rip his balls off and shove them in his mouth if he touched my daughter again.

Funny enough he left her alone after that......

There was an incident just about a month ago here in Maryland where a little girl with mild MS was being bullied on her school bus every day. One day she refused to get on the bus. Her father asked her why she didn't want to take the bus and she told him that kids had been bullying her from day one by spitting in her hair, tripping her so she would fall, making fun of the way she walked, etc. So her father walked her to the bus stop and waited for the bus to show. When the bus stopped, he got on and made an "announcement:"

This is not verbatim, but close, "LET ME TELL YOU LITTLE BASTIDS SOMETHING! MY DAUGHTER RIDES THIS BUS EVERY DAY AND EVERY DAY SHE IS BEING BULLIED BY SOME OF Y'ALL, AND I'M SICK OF THIS SHIT!

At this point, a student pulls out a cell phone and starts dialing 911. Pops continued, "YEAH, CALL THE POLICE MF! I'LL BE RIGHT HERE! BUT Y'ALL GOT ONE MORE TIME TO MESS WITH MY DAUGHTER OR I'M GONNA COME ON HERE AND KICK ALL Y'ALLS ASSES! I'M TIRED OF THIS SHIT! I'M TIRED OF IT!

The bus driver didn't do squat. The father got off the bus and let his daughter on. She didn't have a problem during the trip to school.

Pops got arrested, but he also got hundreds of letters of support from parents and teachers all around the country. The video of this incident was on news stations nationwide. It's probably on YouTube.

I support what he did. He didn't put his hands on any child, but just the threat and his big presence shut them the hell up. He finally took his child out of school and is home-schooling her. But I'm like John in this regard. How is she going to learn how to deal with people if she's sheltered like that? I'm of the adage, if someone hits you or keeps mesing with you physically, pick up the biggest stick, brick, rock or whatever less that a deadly weapon, and knock the living shit out of them.

Shyra said:

blueblossom said:

I know I shouldn't have done it but I did.

A much bigger boy (in that last year at junior school) was bullying my daughter, teasing her and started to get physical i.e. slapping and punching and a couple of kicks as well.

Well the teachers did bugger all and so I waited after school for him, grabbed him by the throat had him up against a wall and threatened that I would rip his balls off and shove them in his mouth if he touched my daughter again.

Funny enough he left her alone after that......

There was an incident just about a month ago here in Maryland where a little girl with mild MS was being bullied on her school bus every day. One day she refused to get on the bus. Her father asked her why she didn't want to take the bus and she told him that kids had been bullying her from day one by spitting in her hair, tripping her so she would fall, making fun of the way she walked, etc. So her father walked her to the bus stop and waited for the bus to show. When the bus stopped, he got on and made an "announcement:"

This is not verbatim, but close, "LET ME TELL YOU LITTLE BASTIDS SOMETHING! MY DAUGHTER RIDES THIS BUS EVERY DAY AND EVERY DAY SHE IS BEING BULLIED BY SOME OF Y'ALL, AND I'M SICK OF THIS SHIT!

At this point, a student pulls out a cell phone and starts dialing 911. Pops continued, "YEAH, CALL THE POLICE MF! I'LL BE RIGHT HERE! BUT Y'ALL GOT ONE MORE TIME TO MESS WITH MY DAUGHTER OR I'M GONNA COME ON HERE AND KICK ALL Y'ALLS ASSES! I'M TIRED OF THIS SHIT! I'M TIRED OF IT!

The bus driver didn't do squat. The father got off the bus and let his daughter on. She didn't have a problem during the trip to school.

Pops got arrested, but he also got hundreds of letters of support from parents and teachers all around the country. The video of this incident was on news stations nationwide. It's probably on YouTube.

I support what he did. He didn't put his hands on any child, but just the threat and his big presence shut them the hell up. He finally took his child out of school and is home-schooling her. But I'm like John in this regard. How is she going to learn how to deal with people if she's sheltered like that? I'm of the adage, if someone hits you or keeps mesing with you physically, pick up the biggest stick, brick, rock or whatever less that a deadly weapon, and knock the living shit out of them.

Oh my.

This is seriously like one of my all time saddest things. Poor innocent kids getting picked on. Their poor little hearts. It makes me wanna cry.

Shyra said:

blueblossom said:

I know I shouldn't have done it but I did.

A much bigger boy (in that last year at junior school) was bullying my daughter, teasing her and started to get physical i.e. slapping and punching and a couple of kicks as well.

Well the teachers did bugger all and so I waited after school for him, grabbed him by the throat had him up against a wall and threatened that I would rip his balls off and shove them in his mouth if he touched my daughter again.

Funny enough he left her alone after that......

There was an incident just about a month ago here in Maryland where a little girl with mild MS was being bullied on her school bus every day. One day she refused to get on the bus. Her father asked her why she didn't want to take the bus and she told him that kids had been bullying her from day one by spitting in her hair, tripping her so she would fall, making fun of the way she walked, etc. So her father walked her to the bus stop and waited for the bus to show. When the bus stopped, he got on and made an "announcement:"

This is not verbatim, but close, "LET ME TELL YOU LITTLE BASTIDS SOMETHING! MY DAUGHTER RIDES THIS BUS EVERY DAY AND EVERY DAY SHE IS BEING BULLIED BY SOME OF Y'ALL, AND I'M SICK OF THIS SHIT!

At this point, a student pulls out a cell phone and starts dialing 911. Pops continued, "YEAH, CALL THE POLICE MF! I'LL BE RIGHT HERE! BUT Y'ALL GOT ONE MORE TIME TO MESS WITH MY DAUGHTER OR I'M GONNA COME ON HERE AND KICK ALL Y'ALLS ASSES! I'M TIRED OF THIS SHIT! I'M TIRED OF IT!

The bus driver didn't do squat. The father got off the bus and let his daughter on. She didn't have a problem during the trip to school.

Pops got arrested, but he also got hundreds of letters of support from parents and teachers all around the country. The video of this incident was on news stations nationwide. It's probably on YouTube.

I support what he did. He didn't put his hands on any child, but just the threat and his big presence shut them the hell up. He finally took his child out of school and is home-schooling her. But I'm like John in this regard. How is she going to learn how to deal with people if she's sheltered like that? I'm of the adage, if someone hits you or keeps mesing with you physically, pick up the biggest stick, brick, rock or whatever less that a deadly weapon, and knock the living shit out of them.

I thought that happened in Florida?

Anyways, I feel so sorry for that child and the parents of the child. I watched the video right now and those little 'monsters' were laughing at the man when he was telling them to stop bullying his daughter... I swear, it's because kids these days are not getting enough discipline that they are acting like that. Or they have some problems in their own life too and think that they're tough and sorely needs attention. Seriously, so sad.

I don't find anything wrong with what he did actually. Those kids are in great need for some discipline.

SherryJackson said:

With the Christmas holiday coming up, why don't you transfer him to a new school before the semester starts again? I mean, if it's a public school, it shouldn't be that big of a problem. That way his grades won't suffer when he restarts.

There are bullies at every school. And if the school he attends now is filled with neighbors, they are all going to know why he transferred, and the bullying could get even worse.

Basically, it's running from a problem, which never works.

there was one boy in 3rd grade that kept scratching and punching my son in the stomach everyday. my son is only in 1st grade, so he's much smaller than this other boy. i went to the school and talked to his teacher, she knew nohing about it. but we kept getting called my the school nurses office saying my son was hurt, one time with a pencil stab near his eye. so my husband and i talked again with his teacher and principal. things seemed to settle down after that....until we went to a birthday party of one of my son's classmates. well that 3rd grade boy was there and went after all the other kids at the party beating them up. and he had a real empty look in his eyes when he did it too. the parents of the boy had to be called and he was forced to leave the party. i'm really afraid that boy is going to need some major help, because you can see he has major anger issues!