COME ON

i can't get to sleep with these unruly-assed reprobates pissing their cacophony into the stratosphere - i reckon an infeasible hike in their attendance allowance is what it will take to get people learning instead of drinking their parents out of pocket.

I predict an easy time for the police, essentially.

Cx

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CuddlyBear said:

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exactly. A student fee protest is by the by. 27th is The Big Protest if you live in the UK. Other protests are available in other territories.

Where the fuck is Teri the non-Tory? etc

Cx

mrsquirrel said:

CuddlyBear said:

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exactly. A student fee protest is by the by. 27th is The Big Protest if you live in the UK. Other protests are available in other territories.

Where the fuck is Teri the non-Tory? etc

Cx

Do they not speak English in the UK anymore???

I have no idea what this thread is about.

Genesia said:

I have no idea what this thread is about.

Me either. I got the 'London student protests' part but that's it. Maybe you have to be drunk for it to make sense.

i admire the spirited protests of students who object to tuition fee hikes.

here in the USA we seem to have lost that passion. the recent news about social security cuts should have us rioting in the streets, but, it's business as usual.

That SELL OUT Nick Clegg! The promise breaking bottler. No one in their right mind is going to trust the LibDems anytime soon.

ConDem doesn't work. The LibDems may as well not be there, hiding behind the sofa somewhere in the political Cabinet.

purpledoveuk said:

Let's be honest, the people doing the smashing werent students...not the instigators anyway. £9000 per tear to learn is way too much and in a society already so riddled with debt because of changes to education finances 10 years ago I'm amazed they want to make matters worse. Having said that, when I started Uni 10 years ago, the government scrapped all financial help for students, put high interest loans in place instead and wasted the money on building the Millenium Dome (which incitement the later sold privately...paid for by tax payers though).....did I tear shit up - nope. Also something needs to be done because, at the moment, any retard can fuck off to uni and get a degree which means the value of further education goes down...it needs to be more 'exclusive' but worked out on brains not who's prepared to fuck themselves in the arse financially for decades to come

well at least we got to see Prince in the UK again! (although I did still have a job)

joking aside, i took part in a student protest in 1998 against the abolition of LEA grants. It was two dozen of us chanting "grants not fees" outside our University reception. I don't even know who organised it but on hindsight it was pointless, ineffectual, and presumably nobody felt like laying on a coach service to Labour Party HQ as the nation was still on a high after voting out the Conservatives.

It depends how far one wishes to pursue one's studies, essentially.

CuddlyBear said:

Genesia said:

I have no idea what this thread is about.

Me either. I got the 'London student protests' part but that's it. Maybe you have to be drunk for it to make sense.

we're speaking the Queen's English, you know.

donchya just love the way the splash cymbal lands just a fragment behind the beat?

A friends status update on Facebook -

'I'm up for students having a protest but seriously dudes, getting a sandwich on Whitehall is a pain at the best of times....'

XxAxX said:

whistle said:

CuddlyBear said:

Me either. I got the 'London student protests' part but that's it. Maybe you have to be drunk for it to make sense.

we're speaking the Queen's English, you know.

Blimey! I got it now!

I think there are too many people going to Uni these days as it is. My missus' sisters are both there at the mo, and they barely scraped through A-levels! They are definately not Uni material, and people like that who go de-value the degree earned by people who are actually bright enough to be there. Too many people these days see going to Uni as a right...its a privilege.

Secondly, the supposed brightest minds in the country, top lecturers and students, and the best way they can find to protest is a cr*ppy placard march and smashing in some windows? When in the whole history of man has a placard march changed anything? Hardly original is it, and 99.9% likely not to make one iota of difference...

DaveT said:

purpledoveuk said:

XxAxX said:

i admire the spirited protests of students who object to tuition fee hikes.

here in the USA we seem to have lost that passion. the recent news about social security cuts should have us rioting in the streets, but, it's business as usual.

The damage wasn't initiated by students...Olmsted of it as it's the same bunch of romance who turn every peaceful protest nasty. Speaking of which, one goon who through a fire extinguisher off the roof is being charged with attempted murder - good. I'd set bail at £9000 just to rub it in too. (that's 1 years proposed university costs for those who didn't know )

huh. there is something about the energy of a mob that freaking weirds me out.

purpledoveuk said:

DaveT said:

I think there are too many people going to Uni these days as it is. My missus' sisters are both there at the mo, and they barely scraped through A-levels! They are definately not Uni material, and people like that who go de-value the degree earned by people who are actually bright enough to be there. Too many people these days see going to Uni as a right...its a privilege.

Secondly, the supposed brightest minds in the country, top lecturers and students, and the best way they can find to protest is a cr*ppy placard march and smashing in some windows? When in the whole history of man has a placard march changed anything? Hardly original is it, and 99.9% likely not to make one iota of difference...

Have to agree with you regarding too many people at uni - it took me almost 2 years post uni to get a job....I too failed my a-levels but I worked my ass off at college to make up for it and got into uni that way. Having said that whacking the costs up will make no difference to that problem....it just means uni is reserved for the richest or most willing to cripple themselves financially for the rest of thief lives. Put it this way, in those 2 years of unemployment my student loan balance went up and up and up thanks to interest and, even when i did start earning, the interest each month was more than they were taking for repayment. They now take about £150 per month out of my wages and, at the end of the year, I get a letter to tell me I've paid off about £800- £900...you do the maths how much they are ripping me off. There's also something fucked up about a system where those who want to go to uni and get educated are punished whereas those people who want to sit at home, shit out kids, smoke, drink, gamble and never work are given 10 times more in handouts than I get as a father in full-time employment.

Totally agree with the last bit! If we are going to take to the streets in protest, I can't think of a better reason! Every lunchtime I wander into town after a sh*t morning in the office and all I see are smiling pikeys drinking and smoking outside the pub on our tax dollars....I think to myself, what's wrong with this picture? They get to get smashed all day while I have to work hard to fund it for them!! Makes me soooo angry!!

I agree that fees shouldn't be a way to fleece people and Uni shouldn't just be for the rich. I just don't see what the point of the march and the ensuing violence (though I assume that was caused by the usual idiots!)....its not going to achieve anything. And in the face of many other injustices in modern society alot worse than tuition fees, I think some of the students need to get some perspective. Surely they'd be better of marching for a cause like the atrocities in Africa, third world debt, funding for our troops, etc?

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XxAxX said:

DaveT said:

purpledoveuk said:

DaveT said:

Totally agree with the last bit! If we are going to take to the streets in protest, I can't think of a better reason! Every lunchtime I wander into town after a sh*t morning in the office and all I see are smiling pikeys drinking and smoking outside the pub on our tax dollars....I think to myself, what's wrong with this picture? They get to get smashed all day while I have to work hard to fund it for them!! Makes me soooo angry!!

I agree that fees shouldn't be a way to fleece people and Uni shouldn't just be for the rich. I just don't see what the point of the march and the ensuing violence (though I assume that was caused by the usual idiots!)....its not going to achieve anything. And in the face of many other injustices in modern society alot worse than tuition fees, I think some of the students need to get some perspective. Surely they'd be better of marching for a cause like the atrocities in Africa, third world debt, funding for our troops, etc?

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It's situations like this that makes me wonder why we vote - it's prime example that anything you vote for can just be changed once power has been gained.

Yup....totally maks a mockery out of the "democratic" process!