ZombieKitten said:

Tremolina said:

I am afraid this is true for many women. And it's disheartening.

these are superficial and immature reasons, but reasons nonetheless, which have less to do with the man himself and EVERYTHING to do with a woman's ego and insecurity.

A woman who is sure of herself wants you because she loves you, because you are awesome and she wants to be with you because it makes her a better person when she is with you.

No disrespect to the women but how many women do you know who are really like that, honestly?

Tremolina said:

ZombieKitten said:

these are superficial and immature reasons, but reasons nonetheless, which have less to do with the man himself and EVERYTHING to do with a woman's ego and insecurity.

A woman who is sure of herself wants you because she loves you, because you are awesome and she wants to be with you because it makes her a better person when she is with you.

No disrespect to the women but how many women do you know who are really like that, honestly?

BS.

I know lots of women who are confident and sure of themselves. I know a lot of incredibly strong women. I find it a pity you don't.

Certainly, I have encountered women on the other end of the spectrum as well.

Just as there are men who are “nothing” without a relationship and there are men who look for a woman as a partner and equal, to enhance his life, not complete it.

CarrieMpls said:

Tremolina said:

No disrespect to the women but how many women do you know who are really like that, honestly?

BS.

I know lots of women who are confident and sure of themselves. I know a lot of incredibly strong women. I find it a pity you don't.

Certainly, I have encountered women on the other end of the spectrum as well.

Just as there are men who are “nothing” without a relationship and there are men who look for a woman as a partner and equal, to enhance his life, not complete it.

Sriously no disrespect. My comment was not meant as discriminiating between male/female. I am just asking from the perspective of a man on a thread about what women really want from men.

Of course women that are sure of themselves do exist. I know a few, but I am just being honest that I don't know that many.

Tremolina said:

CarrieMpls said:

BS.

I know lots of women who are confident and sure of themselves. I know a lot of incredibly strong women. I find it a pity you don't.

Certainly, I have encountered women on the other end of the spectrum as well.

Just as there are men who are “nothing” without a relationship and there are men who look for a woman as a partner and equal, to enhance his life, not complete it.

Sriously no disrespect. My comment was not meant as discriminiating between male/female. I am just asking from the perspective of a man on a thread about what women really want from men.

Of course women that are sure of themselves do exist. I know a few, but I am just being honest that I don't know that many.

Because in reality, there aren`t many. I`ve said this time and time again, people tend to hang out with like minded people...and this is why Carrie probably doesn`t know many women like this.

But from what I have seen time and time again...from what I have been told by men....these women are few and far between.

I know what I want in a relationship now, and may not have the issues ZK listed anymore....however there is no way that I would call myself confident and sure of myself. Not many people are.

CarrieMpls said:

Tremolina said:

No disrespect to the women but how many women do you know who are really like that, honestly?

BS.

I know lots of women who are confident and sure of themselves. I know a lot of incredibly strong women. I find it a pity you don't.

Certainly, I have encountered women on the other end of the spectrum as well.

Just as there are men who are “nothing” without a relationship and there are men who look for a woman as a partner and equal, to enhance his life, not complete it.

Many men can't handle that either contrary to the lip-service.

TD3 said:

CarrieMpls said:

BS.

I know lots of women who are confident and sure of themselves. I know a lot of incredibly strong women. I find it a pity you don't.

Certainly, I have encountered women on the other end of the spectrum as well.

Just as there are men who are “nothing” without a relationship and there are men who look for a woman as a partner and equal, to enhance his life, not complete it.

Many men can't handle that either contrary to the lip-service.

Amen to that! I keep finding these idiots who see it as a challenge to try to break that confidence.

who started this damned thread???...

Okay, I'm back,

I can't generalize because at various times in life I've had different expectations. When I was younger, I wanted to play house, happily ever after, yadda, yadda.

Post divorce, I wanted mostly romance, fun and reassurance.

Nowadays my priority is friendship and companionship with a bit of naughty thrown in perhaps,

The other qualities I want can be applied to anybody I associate with...honesty, intellect, sense of humor

When I say that I really like men I wasn't kidding though...romance aside, all my life most of my friends have been male.

Hershe said:

Romance.

That too, I forgot Romance. Romance is a must.

Tremolina said:

ZombieKitten said:

these are superficial and immature reasons, but reasons nonetheless, which have less to do with the man himself and EVERYTHING to do with a woman's ego and insecurity.

A woman who is sure of herself wants you because she loves you, because you are awesome and she wants to be with you because it makes her a better person when she is with you.

No disrespect to the women but how many women do you know who are really like that, honestly?

all the older ones who you wouldn't consider dating probably

JustErin said:

Tremolina said:

Sriously no disrespect. My comment was not meant as discriminiating between male/female. I am just asking from the perspective of a man on a thread about what women really want from men.

Of course women that are sure of themselves do exist. I know a few, but I am just being honest that I don't know that many.

Because in reality, there aren`t many. I`ve said this time and time again, people tend to hang out with like minded people...and this is why Carrie probably doesn`t know many women like this.

But from what I have seen time and time again...from what I have been told by men....these women are few and far between.

I know what I want in a relationship now, and may not have the issues ZK listed anymore....however there is no way that I would call myself confident and sure of myself. Not many people are.

It totally depends on your experience if you get a positive response on a daily basis, you realise you're pretty cool

and I don't mean "do I look nice today honey?" " yes, you ALWAYS do darling"

because that trick NEVER works

oh and those issues, they're not just women, it's human to want to fit in and be NORMAL

it's society (the media and our acceptance of ideals) that is FUCKED UP and has created such impossible criteria for fitting in

ZombieKitten said:

Tremolina said:

No disrespect to the women but how many women do you know who are really like that, honestly?

all the older ones who you wouldn't consider dating probably

Ah, actually I had relationships with women substantially older than me.

ZombieKitten said:

JustErin said:

Because in reality, there aren`t many. I`ve said this time and time again, people tend to hang out with like minded people...and this is why Carrie probably doesn`t know many women like this.

But from what I have seen time and time again...from what I have been told by men....these women are few and far between.

I know what I want in a relationship now, and may not have the issues ZK listed anymore....however there is no way that I would call myself confident and sure of myself. Not many people are.

It totally depends on your experience if you get a positive response on a daily basis, you realise you're pretty cool

and I don't mean "do I look nice today honey?" " yes, you ALWAYS do darling"

because that trick NEVER works

10 people telling you you're cool can be cancelled out in an instant by one person saying you suck.

JustErin said:

ZombieKitten said:

It totally depends on your experience if you get a positive response on a daily basis, you realise you're pretty cool

and I don't mean "do I look nice today honey?" " yes, you ALWAYS do darling"

because that trick NEVER works

10 people telling you you're cool can be cancelled out in an instant by one person saying you suck.

THAT is the person with issues

so don't listen to them

JustErin said:

10 people telling you you're cool can be cancelled out in an instant by one person saying you suck.