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Thread started 10/18/10 1:47pm

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Mauled for not Understanding 'Beware of Dog' Sign

Horrible story, but I can't blame the dog owners. Dude's been in this country's 26 years and doesn't know English?

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/10/17/2010-10-17_chinese_restaurant_owner_mauled_by_three_pit_bulls_loses_an_earlobe_after_trespa.html

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Reply #1 posted 10/18/10 5:02pm

SuperFunk59

In the country for 26 bleeding years and can't speak a work of english??? Fuck 'im!!!

I'd have ripped him apart myself if I'd caught him in my garden!!!

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Reply #2 posted 10/18/10 5:20pm

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This is beyond not reading English. People really lack common sense.

We have Beware of Dog signs on our fences and a sticker on our front window that says we have 2 dogs (for firefighters in case of fire). When people knock on our door our dogs immediately bark (Bogart's bark is pretty telling of his size). Bogart is protective of us and our home. When we have guests, we usually walk him and have our guests walk in with him together. He then knows those people are invited into our home and is perfectly fine. (the orgers who've been here can tell you) Otherwise he ain't havin it. Do not just walk into my house.

I can't tell you how many times I open the door to find people standing in our entryway (rather than outside of the stormdoor) where he could get at them if we don't act quickly enough. confused

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Reply #3 posted 10/18/10 7:47pm

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johnart said:

This is beyond not reading English. People really lack common sense.

We have Beware of Dog signs on our fences and a sticker on our front window that says we have 2 dogs (for firefighters in case of fire). When people knock on our door our dogs immediately bark (Bogart's bark is pretty telling of his size). Bogart is protective of us and our home. When we have guests, we usually walk him and have our guests walk in with him together. He then knows those people are invited into our home and is perfectly fine. (the orgers who've been here can tell you) Otherwise he ain't havin it. Do not just walk into my house.

I can't tell you how many times I open the door to find people standing in our entryway (rather than outside of the stormdoor) where he could get at them if we don't act quickly enough. confused

lock the outer door when you're home.. they don't need to be up in there

serves them right if Bogie eats them.. lol

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Reply #4 posted 10/18/10 7:50pm

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PositivityNYC said:

johnart said:

This is beyond not reading English. People really lack common sense.

We have Beware of Dog signs on our fences and a sticker on our front window that says we have 2 dogs (for firefighters in case of fire). When people knock on our door our dogs immediately bark (Bogart's bark is pretty telling of his size). Bogart is protective of us and our home. When we have guests, we usually walk him and have our guests walk in with him together. He then knows those people are invited into our home and is perfectly fine. (the orgers who've been here can tell you) Otherwise he ain't havin it. Do not just walk into my house.

I can't tell you how many times I open the door to find people standing in our entryway (rather than outside of the stormdoor) where he could get at them if we don't act quickly enough. confused

lock the outer door when you're home.. they don't need to be up in there

serves them right if Bogie eats them.. lol

...or Lola poops on them. hmph!

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Reply #5 posted 10/18/10 8:00pm

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lol

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Reply #6 posted 10/18/10 8:21pm

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Genesia said:

PositivityNYC said:

lock the outer door when you're home.. they don't need to be up in there

serves them right if Bogie eats them.. lol

...or Lola poops on them. hmph!

I just had a visual of Bogie taking dude down and Lola casually scootin her but up there to make a deposit. neutral

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Reply #7 posted 10/18/10 8:29pm

Cinnie

Why are these dumb dogs just biting strangers though?

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Reply #8 posted 10/18/10 8:34pm

Genesia

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johnart said:

Genesia said:

...or Lola poops on them. hmph!

I just had a visual of Bogie taking dude down and Lola casually scootin her but up there to make a deposit. neutral

And Betina ready to cut him if he gets up. lol

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Reply #9 posted 10/18/10 10:03pm

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Genesia said:

johnart said:

I just had a visual of Bogie taking dude down and Lola casually scootin her but up there to make a deposit. neutral

And Betina ready to cut him if he gets up. lol

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Reply #10 posted 10/19/10 12:53am

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Cinnie said:

Why are these dumb dogs just biting strangers though?

So they dont get raped!

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Reply #11 posted 10/19/10 2:30am

johnart

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tinaz said:

Cinnie said:

Why are these dumb dogs just biting strangers though?

So they dont get raped!

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Dogs need rape whistles.

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Reply #12 posted 10/19/10 8:30am

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Cinnie said:

Why are these dumb dogs just biting strangers though?

Because people are trying to save money by not having them trained.

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Reply #13 posted 10/19/10 8:41pm

Cinnie

novabrkr said:

Cinnie said:

Why are these dumb dogs just biting strangers though?

Because people are trying to save money by not having them trained.

Ah.

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Reply #14 posted 10/19/10 11:28pm

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Cinnie said:

Why are these dumb dogs just biting strangers though?

Dogs are SUPPOSED to bite strangers. That who I want my dogs to eat...stay off my property. 26 years and no english? Thats foolishness....and tells me he had no intention of contributing to this country in any meaningful fashion.

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Reply #15 posted 10/19/10 11:35pm

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StillGotIt said:

Cinnie said:

Why are these dumb dogs just biting strangers though?

Dogs are SUPPOSED to bite strangers. That who I want my dogs to eat...stay off my property. 26 years and no english? Thats foolishness....and tells me he had no intention of contributing to this country in any meaningful fashion.

Unless they are properly trained as attack/security dogs then no, they are NOT supposed to and people that use them as such should not be allowed to own animals.

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Reply #16 posted 10/20/10 2:10am

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fpr7 said:

StillGotIt said:

Dogs are SUPPOSED to bite strangers. That who I want my dogs to eat...stay off my property. 26 years and no english? Thats foolishness....and tells me he had no intention of contributing to this country in any meaningful fashion.

Unless they are properly trained as attack/security dogs then no, they are NOT supposed to and people that use them as such should not be allowed to own animals.

Yes and No.

A dog does not/should not have to be formerly trained as an attack dog to be protective of one's home or one's person/family.

I understand what you're saying, but Beware of Dog signs are not unique to English speaking countries. If there is a fenced yard, one should not venture in uninvited. Furthermore, if there is a fenced yard with a SIGN on it which one does not understand then one should most definitely stay the hell out.

The sad thing is that this involves Pits and that changes a lot of the dynamics and introduces a lot of questions. Bogart (our St. Bernard) will not maul someone who intrudes into our space. He will let you know and give you plenty of warning. Then he might nip at you if you are in our space uninvited to further let you know. No one has ever pushed him further and we, of course, have never let a situation get out of hand.

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Reply #17 posted 10/20/10 11:48am

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johnart said:

fpr7 said:

Unless they are properly trained as attack/security dogs then no, they are NOT supposed to and people that use them as such should not be allowed to own animals.

Yes and No.

A dog does not/should not have to be formerly trained as an attack dog to be protective of one's home or one's person/family.

I understand what you're saying, but Beware of Dog signs are not unique to English speaking countries. If there is a fenced yard, one should not venture in uninvited. Furthermore, if there is a fenced yard with a SIGN on it which one does not understand then one should most definitely stay the hell out.

The sad thing is that this involves Pits and that changes a lot of the dynamics and introduces a lot of questions. Bogart (our St. Bernard) will not maul someone who intrudes into our space. He will let you know and give you plenty of warning. Then he might nip at you if you are in our space uninvited to further let you know. No one has ever pushed him further and we, of course, have never let a situation get out of hand.

I agree, protective is not what the poster i replied to said, they said "supposed" to bite strangers. That is where i disagree. The mail mail is a stranger The UPS guy is a stranger The census guy is a stranger All of those are zero threat. Who needs protection from them. The difference between a trained protection dog and a dog encouraged to bite strangers is the discernment of threat. That is where a dog needs to be trained.
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