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Thread started 01/28/03 7:37pm

Paisley

STICKS OR AUTOMATICS

Do you prefer to drive a stick or an automatic, some people say driving a stick is fun but I think they would be hard to drive if you were climbing hills, I would be afraid of rolling back into another car.
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Reply #1 posted 01/28/03 7:38pm

LaVisHh

DEFINATELY A STICK

I love grippin dat sucka!
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Reply #2 posted 01/28/03 7:40pm

bkw

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Driving sticks? wtf?

Who are you? Harry Potter? wink
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Reply #3 posted 01/28/03 7:46pm

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A-U-T-O MATIC
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YOU EITHER WANNA BE ME, OR BE JUST LIKE ME

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Reply #4 posted 01/28/03 7:48pm

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Sportscar=Stick
Sedan=Automatic
I would rather drive a sportscar so you do the math.
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Reply #5 posted 01/28/03 7:49pm

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Stick. I've owned four cars in my life, and they've all had manual transmissions:

1) 1981 Fiat Spider 2000
2) 1991 Saturn SC
3) 2002 Mazda Miata LS
4) 1987 BMW 325

(I no longer own the Fiat or the Saturn.)

Some people find manual transmissions to be a pain in city traffic, but I find that the added control is actually a benefit.
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Reply #6 posted 01/28/03 7:49pm

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theC said:

Sportscar=Stick
Sedan=Automatic
I would rather drive a sportscar so you do the math.


I consider my BMW (stick) to be a "sports sedan." smile
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Reply #7 posted 01/28/03 7:51pm

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Paisley said:

Do you prefer to drive a stick or an automatic, some people say driving a stick is fun but I think they would be hard to drive if you were climbing hills, I would be afraid of rolling back into another car.

I thought the same thing when I first learned to drive one over a decade ago. It's not true really. It's all about technique; even automatics roll back a little if you don't accelerate fast enough on the hills after stopping. The same thing applies for a stick, but you have to coordinate your feet to work the clutch and accelerator, after taking your foot off of the brake. It's really not hard. It would become second nature once you get used to it. Stick shifts are less expensive to repair too.
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Reply #8 posted 01/28/03 7:54pm

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Arn't "sticks" called "manual" in the US?

You guys are weird!
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Reply #9 posted 01/28/03 7:55pm

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matt said:

Stick. I've owned four cars in my life, and they've all had manual transmissions:

1) 1981 Fiat Spider 2000
2) 1991 Saturn SC
3) 2002 Mazda Miata LS
4) 1987 BMW 325

(I no longer own the Fiat or the Saturn.)

Some people find manual transmissions to be a pain in city traffic, but I find that the added control is actually a benefit.

Soon as you became a lawyer you had to get the BMW didn't you? wink
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #10 posted 01/28/03 8:01pm

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bkw said:

Arn't "sticks" called "manual" in the US?

You guys are weird!

It's called manual transmission, but us layfolks say "stick", ya hear? biggrin
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Reply #11 posted 01/28/03 8:02pm

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Supernova said:

It's all about technique; even automatics roll back a little if you don't accelerate fast enough on the hills after stopping. The same thing applies for a stick, but you have to coordinate your feet to work the clutch and accelerator, after taking your foot off of the brake. It's really not hard. It would become second nature once you get used to it. Stick shifts are less expensive to repair too.


Manual transmissions also tend to get better fuel economy.

Some folks say stick shifts hurt the resale value of the car, but I think it's just a matter of finding the right buyer. I consider sticks to be a "plus" that merits paying extra.

Oh, about manual transmissions and hills... using the clutch (as opposed to the brakes) to hold the car on a hill is bad for the clutch. Don't do it. smile
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Reply #12 posted 01/28/03 8:02pm

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Supernova said:

bkw said:

Arn't "sticks" called "manual" in the US?

You guys are weird!

It's called manual transmission, but us layfolks say "stick", ya hear? biggrin

If you said that down here in Australia, it would sound rude.
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Reply #13 posted 01/28/03 8:03pm

Berry

Manual for speed.
Automatic for comfort.
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Reply #14 posted 01/28/03 8:04pm

LaVisHh

matt said:

Manual transmissions also tend to get better fuel economy.

Some folks say stick shifts hurt the resale value of the car, but I think it's just a matter of finding the right buyer. I consider sticks to be a "plus" that merits paying extra.

Oh, about manual transmissions and hills... using the clutch (as opposed to the brakes) to hold the car on a hill is bad for the clutch. Don't do it. smile


Not to mention the control I have over the car, unlike the automatic transmission.

Much more power, and acceleration.
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Reply #15 posted 01/28/03 8:05pm

bkw

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Supernova said:

bkw said:

Arn't "sticks" called "manual" in the US?

You guys are weird!

It's called manual transmission, but us layfolks say "stick", ya hear? biggrin

Thanks Supernova love
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Reply #16 posted 01/28/03 8:07pm

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bkw said:


Soon as you became a lawyer you had to get the BMW didn't you? wink


Well, since I now hold a state-issued license to be an obnoxious, arrogant jerk, I figured that I needed a car to match. smile

Seriously, what happened was that I found the Miata's tires to be inadequate on snow--they get almost no traction. After investigating the cost of four wheels and a set of snow tires, I just decided to buy the BMW from one of my (lawyer) colleagues and use it as a winter car. (He recently bought himself a new BMW and was looking to get rid of his old one.) I figure that garaging the Miata for the winter will extend its life.

The BMW feels quite solid for a 16-year-old car, and it handles the snow just fine. It was definitely built to last.
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Reply #17 posted 01/28/03 8:07pm

AzureStar

Battier... get on msn, please.
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Reply #18 posted 01/28/03 8:08pm

Supernova

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matt said:

Supernova said:

It's all about technique; even automatics roll back a little if you don't accelerate fast enough on the hills after stopping. The same thing applies for a stick, but you have to coordinate your feet to work the clutch and accelerator, after taking your foot off of the brake. It's really not hard. It would become second nature once you get used to it. Stick shifts are less expensive to repair too.


Manual transmissions also tend to get better fuel economy.

Some folks say stick shifts hurt the resale value of the car, but I think it's just a matter of finding the right buyer. I consider sticks to be a "plus" that merits paying extra.

My very first car was a stick. I have an automatic now.

Oh, about manual transmissions and hills... using the clutch (as opposed to the brakes) to hold the car on a hill is bad for the clutch. Don't do it. smile

Eh? Who does that? confused
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Reply #19 posted 01/28/03 8:10pm

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althom said:

Supernova said:

bkw said:

Arn't "sticks" called "manual" in the US?

You guys are weird!

It's called manual transmission, but us layfolks say "stick", ya hear? biggrin

If you said that down here in Australia, it would sound rude.

Oh, I know some words/phrases don't mean the same thing everywhere. wink
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Reply #20 posted 01/28/03 8:10pm

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bkw said:

Supernova said:

bkw said:

Arn't "sticks" called "manual" in the US?

You guys are weird!

It's called manual transmission, but us layfolks say "stick", ya hear? biggrin

Thanks Supernova love

De nada, Kirby. love
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Reply #21 posted 01/28/03 8:13pm

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LaVisHh said:

Not to mention the control I have over the car, unlike the automatic transmission.

Much more power, and acceleration.


Yes--although some people find manuals to be inconvenient in city traffic, I actually prefer the added control. If I need to zip quickly into traffic and get up to speed, a manual helps me do that.
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Reply #22 posted 01/28/03 8:14pm

applekisses

LaVisHh said:

matt said:

Manual transmissions also tend to get better fuel economy.

Some folks say stick shifts hurt the resale value of the car, but I think it's just a matter of finding the right buyer. I consider sticks to be a "plus" that merits paying extra.

Oh, about manual transmissions and hills... using the clutch (as opposed to the brakes) to hold the car on a hill is bad for the clutch. Don't do it. smile


Not to mention the control I have over the car, unlike the automatic transmission.

Much more power, and acceleration.


THE STICK ROCKS! :HEADBANG:
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Reply #23 posted 01/28/03 8:15pm

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matt said:

LaVisHh said:

Not to mention the control I have over the car, unlike the automatic transmission.

Much more power, and acceleration.


Yes--although some people find manuals to be inconvenient in city traffic, I actually prefer the added control. If I need to zip quickly into traffic and get up to speed, a manual helps me do that.


Not to mention the control you have in adverse weather conditions.
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Reply #24 posted 01/29/03 11:39am

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Supernova said:

matt said:

Oh, about manual transmissions and hills... using the clutch (as opposed to the brakes) to hold the car on a hill is bad for the clutch. Don't do it. smile

Eh? Who does that? confused


I did, at least in my early days of driving with a manual transmission. redface My dad taught me the technique when he taught me how to use a stick shift.

It works like this: when you're stopping on a hill, you partially depress the clutch so that the transmission is partially disengaged, and at the same time, you press down on the accelerator somewhat. If you find the right balance--and it's not that hard to do--the car will hold in place. When you're ready to go, you just let the clutch out and, if necessary, depress the accelerator some more. If you do this right, the car won't roll back.

But again, this technique is rough on the clutch and can shorten its life, leading to an expensive repair job.
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Reply #25 posted 01/29/03 12:56pm

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Supernova said:

Paisley said:

Do you prefer to drive a stick or an automatic, some people say driving a stick is fun but I think they would be hard to drive if you were climbing hills, I would be afraid of rolling back into another car.

I thought the same thing when I first learned to drive one over a decade ago. It's not true really. It's all about technique; even automatics roll back a little if you don't accelerate fast enough on the hills after stopping. The same thing applies for a stick, but you have to coordinate your feet to work the clutch and accelerator, after taking your foot off of the brake. It's really not hard. It would become second nature once you get used to it. Stick shifts are less expensive to repair too.


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Reply #26 posted 01/29/03 1:28pm

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bkw said:

Arn't "sticks" called "manual" in the US?

You guys are weird!


they are also called "standard"

I'll drive a stick,standard,manual anyday over an automatic..I hate those whimpy things! smile vroom vroom!
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