I guess I am just a little naive because I thought he was a little more upright than that. Maybe I am judging too quickly, but I hope he and his family (not to mention church) come through this scandal better on the other side. How embarrassing!

SCNDLS said:

DesireeNevermind said:

with that illuminati hand gesture n shit.

do he got a jheri curl? or is that a wave nouveau?

It's a curl . . .

Why my friends still clown me when I correct them about the fact that I had a Wave Nouveau NOT a curl.

he got rid of the curl......he's now wearing a toupee.

SCNDLS said:

Ottensen said:

Who is this dude? Is he really famous in the church world in the U.S.? This dude sounds like he needs to go have lunch with that anti-gay Republican congressman who picks up boys in bathrooms

Don't you remember the first season of RHOA when Deshaun went to church? She wrote him a check for $15k and proudly said she does it weekly. Then she went to his office to talk to him privately. Come to think of it, I thought it was odd he was wearing a robe that REALLY looked like a dress. Now we know why.

Holuh, holuh, holul! Is that the same ostentatious ass preacher that Deshuan approached about donating to her charity ball where Negroes showed up and ate all the food, drank all the dranks and didn't donate a damn quarter? The same one she asked to donate and he was sidesteppin her ass? Is that the one? Sooo, he likes the dooky stick, huh?

I think this is the one Steve Harvey was defending on his show this morning. Well, maybe not defending, but he said he didn't like hearing disparaging (MY word [Steve might not know what it means]) newscasts about black preachers on his program.

Shyra said:

SCNDLS said:

Don't you remember the first season of RHOA when Deshaun went to church? She wrote him a check for $15k and proudly said she does it weekly. Then she went to his office to talk to him privately. Come to think of it, I thought it was odd he was wearing a robe that REALLY looked like a dress. Now we know why.

Holuh, holuh, holul! Is that the same ostentatious ass preacher that Deshuan approached about donating to her charity ball where Negroes showed up and ate all the food, drank all the dranks and didn't donate a damn quarter? The same one she asked to donate and he was sidesteppin her ass? Is that the one? Sooo, he likes the dooky stick, huh?

I think this is the one Steve Harvey was defending on his show this morning. Well, maybe not defending, but he said he didn't like hearing disparaging (MY word [Steve might not know what it means]) newscasts about black preachers on his program.

Yes darling that is him!

I do recall that he most certainly side stepped Deshawn's request to have him show up at her fund raiser/free picnic.

Deshawn didn't have no sense anyway. She was talkin' all this mess about inviting "Atlanta's elite" to her fundraiser and all she got was a bunch of free-loadin' ass hoodrats dressed up in designer knockoffs. The only spent a dime was ole Kim and that was Big Poppa's money!

Thank you Big Poppa I luuvvvv youuu!!!

Went in, out, and in with no help from ANY liquids.

Harlepolis said:

Went in, out, and in with no help from ANY liquids.

Well, slap my ass and call me Sally, bitch! Did she tell it or did she tell it?

I have one thing to say. DAAYYYUUUMMM!!!

Shyra said:

Harlepolis said:

Went in, out, and in with no help from ANY liquids.

Well, slap my ass and call me Sally, bitch! Did she tell it or did she tell it?

Dammit, I love this place,,,,,,,sometimes

we're all going to feel bad if these suits turn out to be lies and attempts at ruining Mr. Long's character.

on the other hand if the accusations turn out to be true.....we gon have jokes for days!

DesireeNevermind said:

we're all going to feel bad if these suits turn out to be lies and attempts at ruining Mr. Long's character.

on the other hand if the accusations turn out to be true.....we gon have jokes for days!

I ain't said a damn thang! Don't be puttin no poxes and shit on my house!

DesireeNevermind said:

we're all going to feel bad if these suits turn out to be lies and attempts at ruining Mr. Long's character.

on the other hand if the accusations turn out to be true.....we gon have jokes for days!

This shit hit CNN godness,,,,,

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/22/third-lawsuit-filed-against-atlanta-pastor-eddie-long/

And it has just begun. They gonna come all outta the woods now as the plot thickens. Isn't it always?

See, this is why I don't go to church. I'm not paying tithes to no jackleg preacher so he can litter his pinky fingers with diamonds and pearls. I'm not paying tithes to keep his wife and the other 10 deconesshoes in furs and Jimmy Choos. Or if he's so inclined, to take pubescent boys to hotels; not on my tab, nucca! I'm NOT doing it!

[Edited 9/22/10 12:49pm]

Harlepolis said:

This shit hit CNN godness,,,,,

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/22/third-lawsuit-filed-against-atlanta-pastor-eddie-long/

And it has just begun. They gonna come all outta the woods now as the plot thickens. Isn't it always?

Yep, just like Tiger.

uPtoWnNY said:

Harlepolis said:

This shit hit CNN godness,,,,,

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/22/third-lawsuit-filed-against-atlanta-pastor-eddie-long/

And it has just begun. They gonna come all outta the woods now as the plot thickens. Isn't it always?

Yep, just like Tiger.

Every 6 months another high profile brother is taking heat.

Think it is by accident? I don't.

November said:

SCNDLS said:

It's a curl . . .

Why my friends still clown me when I correct them about the fact that I had a Wave Nouveau NOT a curl.

he got rid of the curl......he's now wearing a toupee.

I can't see the pic.

Shyra said:

SCNDLS said:

Don't you remember the first season of RHOA when Deshaun went to church? She wrote him a check for $15k and proudly said she does it weekly. Then she went to his office to talk to him privately. Come to think of it, I thought it was odd he was wearing a robe that REALLY looked like a dress. Now we know why.

Holuh, holuh, holul! Is that the same ostentatious ass preacher that Deshuan approached about donating to her charity ball where Negroes showed up and ate all the food, drank all the dranks and didn't donate a damn quarter? The same one she asked to donate and he was sidesteppin her ass? Is that the one? Sooo, he likes the dooky stick, huh?

I think this is the one Steve Harvey was defending on his show this morning. Well, maybe not defending, but he said he didn't like hearing disparaging (MY word [Steve might not know what it means]) newscasts about black preachers on his program.

Yeah, that's that busta!

Thanks Steve, just what our community needs, more sweeping of the dirt under the rug.

DesireeNevermind said:

we're all going to feel bad if these suits turn out to be lies and attempts at ruining Mr. Long's character.

on the other hand if the accusations turn out to be true.....we gon have jokes for days!

That's why I haven't said anything

but best believe, I'm thinking of material as we speak

Shyra said:

See, this is why I don't go to church. I'm not paying tithes to no jackleg preacher so he can litter his pinky fingers with diamonds and pearls. I'm not paying tithes to keep his wife and the other 10 deconesshoes in furs and Jimmy Choos. Or if he's so inclined, to take pubescent boys to hotels; not on my tab, nucca! I'm NOT doing it!

[Edited 9/22/10 12:49pm]

I live in Dallas, the mecca for slick talking millionaire preachers. Folks be wanting to come out the bag on me when I talk shit about the epic pimpishness that abounds at Potter's House with the ultimate hustla Bishop Jakes. You have to be REAL careful cuz his flock will cut ya!

I was really done with his ass when I went to Bible study there over 10 years ago and saw you could tithe on credit cards and they had ATMs in the church. Bad credit and debt be damned as long as TD's walrus looking ass stay in tacky suits and gators. I have a homey who is his personal trainer and he travels all over the world with him, on the church's dime. Plus he lives in a $10 mil home in Dallas. Yeah, all that's real Christ-like.

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Yep, just like Tiger.

Every 6 months another high profile brother is taking heat.

Think it is by accident? I don't.

Fuck that! These dumb fuckas put their own dicks in a sling and need to be held personally accountable for their shenanigans. Especially when they are CRUSADERS against homosexuality. Don't want heat, keep ya dick in ya pants. Besides white preacher's been caught with they dick in a doody hole and they get crucified too. So I ain't buying.

SCNDLS said:

Graycap23 said:

Every 6 months another high profile brother is taking heat.

Think it is by accident? I don't.

Fuck that! These dumb fuckas put their own dicks in a sling and need to be held personally accountable for their shenanigans. Especially when they are CRUSADERS against homosexuality. Don't want heat, keep ya dick in ya pants. Besides white preacher's been caught with they dick in a doody hole and they get crucified too. So I ain't buying.

Idiots getting caught doing shit like those dudes on Maury who fall for the "sexy decoy" every time

uPtoWnNY said:

Harlepolis said:

This shit hit CNN godness,,,,,

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/22/third-lawsuit-filed-against-atlanta-pastor-eddie-long/

And it has just begun. They gonna come all outta the woods now as the plot thickens. Isn't it always?

Yep, just like Tiger.

BIG difference, white folks won't give a damn about this madness so it will go away from the mainstream press in a few days.

Harlepolis said:

Went in, out, and in with no help from ANY liquids.

Oh and Praise the Lawd

That's real talk, tho!

SCNDLS said:

Graycap23 said:

Every 6 months another high profile brother is taking heat.

Think it is by accident? I don't.

Fuck that! These dumb fuckas put their own dicks in a sling and need to be held personally accountable for their shenanigans. Especially when they are CRUSADERS against homosexuality. Don't want heat, keep ya dick in ya pants. Besides white preacher's been caught with they dick in a doody hole and they get crucified too. So I ain't buying.

U can be naive it if u wish.............there is more 2 this than meets the eye.

Some people are real good at turning people's private live against them in a very public way. have these folks done some really dumb sh*t? Yes, but i assure u, they are not the only ones who have yet they are the ones being exploited on the world stage. My question is, 2 what end?

Graycap23 said:

SCNDLS said:

Fuck that! These dumb fuckas put their own dicks in a sling and need to be held personally accountable for their shenanigans. Especially when they are CRUSADERS against homosexuality. Don't want heat, keep ya dick in ya pants. Besides white preacher's been caught with they dick in a doody hole and they get crucified too. So I ain't buying.

U can be naive it if u wish.............there is more 2 this than meets the eye.

Some people are real good at turning people's private live against them in a very public way. have these folks done some really dumb sh*t? Yes, but i assure u, they are not the only ones who have yet they are the ones being exploited on the world stage. My question is, 2 what end?

If we're talking about preachers, the media LOVES to catch those who have fronted like they're holier than thou and condemned others for their lifestyles with their proverbial pants down and a cemetery full of skeletons in their closets along with some wigs, caftans, Judy Garland movies, and a copy of the Dreamgirls soundtrack. And that ain't got nuthin to do with race.

Chile look at all that bad-matching foundation.

Graycap23 said:

SCNDLS said:

Fuck that! These dumb fuckas put their own dicks in a sling and need to be held personally accountable for their shenanigans. Especially when they are CRUSADERS against homosexuality. Don't want heat, keep ya dick in ya pants. Besides white preacher's been caught with they dick in a doody hole and they get crucified too. So I ain't buying.

U can be naive it if u wish.............there is more 2 this than meets the eye.

Some people are real good at turning people's private live against them in a very public way. have these folks done some really dumb sh*t? Yes, but i assure u, they are not the only ones who have yet they are the ones being exploited on the world stage. My question is, 2 what end?

Maybe so they will be exposed as not to exploit others who can't afford to tithe.

I have a problem with preachers/religious leaders living in 10 million dollar homes. It just doesn't seem right while some of your parishioners are eating soup and beans in order to keep up with the rest of the flock in tithing. But I guess this discussion should go in P&R which I will NOT enter!

SCNDLS said:

Graycap23 said:

U can be naive it if u wish.............there is more 2 this than meets the eye.

Some people are real good at turning people's private live against them in a very public way. have these folks done some really dumb sh*t? Yes, but i assure u, they are not the only ones who have yet they are the ones being exploited on the world stage. My question is, 2 what end?

If we're talking about preachers, the media LOVES to catch those who have fronted like they're holier than thou and condemned others for their lifestyles with their proverbial pants down and a cemetery full of skeletons in their closets along with some wigs, caftans, Judy Garland movies, and a copy of the Dreamgirls soundtrack. And that ain't got nuthin to do with race.

It NEVER does.......I think u missed my point.

Accused pastor crusaded against homosexuals

Editor's note: CNN's John Blake first covered Bishop Eddie Long as a religion reporter for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Atlanta, Georgia (CNN) -- As Bishop Eddie Long poked through a salad in his church office one summer day in 1999, he shot a weary look at a person ticking off his ministry's successes.

His Atlanta megachurch had already reached 25,000 members. He had been invited to the White House, built a global television ministry and drove around town in a luxury automobile.

But Long told the visitor who had come to write about him that the pressures of being a high-profile pastor could be brutal.

"You don't want any of this," he said in a raspy baritone as he shook his head. "You don't want any of this ..."

Long didn't get more specific about those pressures.

Today, the 57-year-old minister, known for his public crusades against homosexuality, faces serious allegations.

On Tuesday, two young men who were members of Long's New Birth Missionary Baptist Church filed lawsuits claiming he used his position as their spiritual counselor to coerce them into sexual relationships.

See PDF of lawsuit filed by Maurice Robinson

The men -- Anthony Flagg, 21, and Maurice Robinson, 20 -- allege Long used a private spiritual ceremony to mark a "covenant" between them, with both becoming his "spiritual son."

See PDF of lawsuit filed by Anthony Flagg

Flagg alleges that Long then used that relationship to take him on overnight trips where they shared a bedroom and engaged in kissing, masturbation and "oral sexual contact."

Robinson, who claimed Long engaged in oral sex with him, said the pastor would cite Scripture to justify their relationship.

"We categorically deny the allegations," Art Franklin, Long's spokesman, said in a written statement. "It is very unfortunate that someone has taken this course of action."

Franklin said "our law firm will be able to respond once attorneys have had an opportunity to review the lawsuit."

The men's lawyer, Brenda Joy (B.J.) Bernstein, would not make them available for comment.

Long's crusades against homosexuality

The allegations against Long run contrary to his public image.

He is a celebrity preacher in the black church world and a star in the evangelical world as well. His church is one of the largest in the country.

In the pulpit, Long seamlessly blends muscle and ministry.

He wears tight shirts that display his weight-lifter arms. He writes books such as "Gladiator, the Strength of a Man," that teach men how to be warriors for God. He says he has a special calling to reach out to men.

He's a married man who preaches about the sanctity of the union between a man and a woman. He denounces homosexuality. In 2004, he led a march in Atlanta against gay marriage. He once declared that his church had created a ministry that "delivered" people from homosexuality.

His public statements about gays and lesbians have helped reinforce homophobia in the black church, says Shayne Lee, a sociologist and author of "Holy Mavericks: Evangelical Innovators and the Spiritual Marketplace."

"The homophobic atmosphere he helped perpetuate," Lee said, could "come back to possibly harm him."

Long's controversial ministry

Long has been the center of public controversy before.

In 2005, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that a charity Long created to help the poor and spread the Gospel had made him its biggest beneficiary.

An examination of the nonprofit's tax returns and other documents revealed that the charity provided him with at least a million dollars in salary over four years, and the use of a $1.4 million home and the $350,000 Bentley.

A frequent critic of black preachers (he once said they "major in storefront churches"), Long responded by saying he was a CEO of a global business who deserved his lifestyle.

"You've got to put me on a different scale than the little black preacher sitting over there that's supposed to be just getting by because the people are suffering," Long said, explaining the compensation he received from his charity.

In 2007, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, of the Senate Finance Committee, sent a letter to Long asking detailed questions about his financial operations. Long was one of six televangelists whom Grassley targeted.

After an initial flurry of publicity following Grassley's request, the investigation appeared to peter out.

Read more stories about faith on CNN's Belief Blog

In recent years, Long seemed to become more humble, says the Rev. Tim McDonald, senior pastor of First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta.

In private talks, McDonald said, Long told him about the pressures of leading a megachurch. He said he no longer had as many close friendships and yearned to return to the more intimate relationships that McDonald seemed to have with his much smaller congregation.

"He said, 'Tim, I may have the numbers, but you have the love,' '' McDonald said.

God's 'scarred leader'

For all his outward confidence, Long also displayed a vulnerable side.

He built an intimate bond with many members of his church by talking about his private failings: his divorce from his first wife; being rejected by his father; and being fired from a job in corporate America.

He called himself God's "scarred leader."

He also became known for his generosity. He would give out cars and money to strangers at church services. He built ministries to help the poor, AIDS patients and young people.

He talked proudly about his ability to reach young men. He called himself a "spiritual daddy" to many of the young men he mentored at New Birth.

He would pay the college tuition for some men, give business suits to others and play basketball and lift weights with his male ministers.

Once, he even boasted to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that some mothers at New Birth trusted him enough to bring their wayward teenage boys to him for paddling.

"When I say bend over, even on Sunday, they bend over," he said, referring to the boys he paddled. "Why? Because they respect me. Because I first died for them ..."

The two men who filed suit against Long, though, said he used their relationships to instruct them, as "spiritual sons," to follow their "master."

They also say Long enticed them "with cars, clothes, jewelry, and electronics." Robinson claims the pastor paid for his college tuition.

In Flagg's suit, he claimed that when some young men found girlfriends, Long would attempt to block those relationships by "increased contact and spiritual talk" about "the covenant between the Spiritual Son and himself."

In addition to Long, the lawsuits name as defendants his church and a youth academy where Long was pastor and mentor. Both suits seek unspecified punitive damages on counts ranging from negligence to breach of fiduciary duty.

Lee, the sociologist who has written about Long, says he expects him to mount a fierce counterattack.

"He'll demonize the accusers," Lee said, "and couch it in terms of how the enemy Satan is trying to hurt the ministry."

Graycap23 said:

SCNDLS said:

If we're talking about preachers, the media LOVES to catch those who have fronted like they're holier than thou and condemned others for their lifestyles with their proverbial pants down and a cemetery full of skeletons in their closets along with some wigs, caftans, Judy Garland movies, and a copy of the Dreamgirls soundtrack. And that ain't got nuthin to do with race.

It NEVER does.......I think u missed my point.

No, I got your point, I just don't agree.

SCNDLS said:

Chile look at all that bad-matching foundation.

Dude looks like Laurence Fishburne found out his daughter showin' her puss and ass craters on camera