anyway, I still haven't made myself a hackintosh.

Please, someone on this thread make me an iNetbook - thanks!

ZombieKitten said:

anyway, I still haven't made myself a hackintosh.

Please, someone on this thread make me an iNetbook - thanks!

Militant said:

ufoclub said:

I hear you and might seriously consider putting together a more powerful hackintosh soon, but... you do realize you are still forming a mutant Apple product right? The OS is an Apple product as well.

I don't have and have never had an issue with OSX. It's a great OS, no question. My issue is with the exorbitant price of the hardware for no reason other than profit. It's daylight robbery. Hardware is hardware, no matter how many aluminum-cases-with-fruit-etched-on-them you pay for. Essentially you're paying hundreds, or thousands, of dollars for a shiny case when you buy a Mac, because the hardware cost is just a fraction of it.

I'm not talking about "technically the same thing", I'm talking about the exact same loaf of bread or better, in a different bag.

But I respect your opinion, and you do know what you're talking about. Probably more than me! Send me a Hackintosh that matches the 20grand type mac you can put together! It's taking me 24 hours to process some HD video of an 8 minute video (a frame rate conversion) on myh 4 year old mac tower. I wouldn't mind doing that part of the process on a faster work horse. Maybe even a PC...!

The highest configuration I could find on Apple.com was:

Two 2.93GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon “Westmere” (12 cores)

32GB RAM

ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB

27" Apple display

for $11,000

That processor appears to be the X5670.

Check the benchmark score of that (3rd one down):

http://www.cpubenchmark.n..._cpus.html

Compared to the top 1, the Intel i7, which you can buy two of for less than $2,000.

32GB RAM will cost you around $1200.

Even with a high-end case like the ones posted, a super-fast graphics card, and some real nice monitors and accessories, there's simply no way this machine would cost you more than $6k at the MOST. Probably closer to $5k actually, so that's less than HALF the price of the Mac.

And if you go a little lower spec, the gap increases. So, for a Mac configuration that would cost about $5k, you could build the Hackintosh for less than $1k.

HOLD UP... I just looked up a comparison of the iphone to Galaxy display... and the iphone obviously wins.... watch the video and then look at the detailed screenshots.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/26/iphone-4-vs-galaxy-s-part-deux-hd-video-playback-video/

and here's an exmaple of hackintosh headeaches:

http://flux88.com/blog/upgrading-my-hackintosh-to-10-5-7/

The iPhone screen only wins on the resolution, which is only a marginal difference.

The Super AMOLED screen in the Galaxy S has more vivid colors (look at the full screen shots rather than the zoom-ins), and it's more efficient, using 30% less battery on video playback.

And that Hackintosh article is nearly 18 months old. That may as well be a lifetime in technology terms.... the Hackintosh art has come a LONG way since then..... I know someone who built one back in 2009 and it's a world of difference compared to the ones my cousins built in the last 2 months.

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Militant said:

The iPhone screen only wins on the resolution, which is only a marginal difference.

The Super AMOLED screen in the Galaxy S has more vivid colors (look at the full screen shots rather than the zoom-ins), and it's more efficient, using 30% less battery on video playback.

And that Hackintosh article is nearly 18 months old. That may as well be a lifetime in technology terms.... the Hackintosh art has come a LONG way since then..... I know someone who built one back in 2009 and it's a world of difference compared to the ones my cousins built in the last 2 months.

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The screen shot you posted above looks way overexposed on the Galaxy, I wouldn't call it better. The top half of the picture displayed is a blur of white....

Brighter doesn't mean better, just as louder doesn't mean better!

Militant said:

The iPhone screen only wins on the resolution, which is only a marginal difference.

The Super AMOLED screen in the Galaxy S has more vivid colors (look at the full screen shots rather than the zoom-ins), and it's more efficient, using 30% less battery on video playback.

And that Hackintosh article is nearly 18 months old. That may as well be a lifetime in technology terms.... the Hackintosh art has come a LONG way since then..... I know someone who built one back in 2009 and it's a world of difference compared to the ones my cousins built in the last 2 months.

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You lost me at disounting resolution as the most important aspect! Resoultion is the only thing that matters with me outside of color accuracy. It seems like the Galaxy S might have an artificially tweaked auto level type function to make its screen more vivid and colorful, but that's gaudy and innacurate for me. I keep my monitors and tv calibrated to be accurate, and I turn of artificial auto "image" improvements... and the smooth high resolution is what I love about the iphone, or anything like a TV or monitor...

I'm also wondering now about how smooth the motion is on the interface touchscreen interaction on the Galaxy S... I know other smart phones don't have the pleasing smooth movement of the iphone interface elements.

ufoclub said:

It seems like the Galaxy S might have an artificially tweaked auto level type function to make its screen more vivid and colorful, but that's gaudy and innacurate for me. I keep my monitors and tv calibrated to be accurate, and I turn of artificial auto "image" improvements... and the smooth high resolution is what I love about the iphone, or anything like a TV or monitor...

That's not the case. Do some research into the Super AMOLED screens that Samsung are making compared to the LCD screen on the iPhone 4.

The screen is more vivid because it's a superior display technology.

Mac Air...That is all

Mac.

Alright you all!

Prove your points.

Post pics & specs to convince someone like me (in market for a new home computer) to get either a PC or a Mac.

Otherwise when the time comes, I'm just doing what I know best (going to Dell.com).

PurpleJedi said:

Alright you all!

Prove your points.

Post pics & specs to convince someone like me (in market for a new home computer) to get either a PC or a Mac.

Otherwise when the time comes, I'm just doing what I know best (going to Dell.com).

Dell makes some good monitors when you go their most expensive ones!

Mac. I'm a video editor and final cut pro works better on a mac. Plus I'm in grad school and use editing software on the macs at school AND I use a mac at work. Love my macbook, the minute I took it out of the box I fell in love. It always works, I've never had to call tech support, don't have to defrag/scandisk or whatever, don't have to worry about viruses.

jaybendy said:

Mac. I'm a video editor and final cut pro works better on a mac. Plus I'm in grad school and use editing software on the macs at school AND I use a mac at work. Love my macbook, the minute I took it out of the box I fell in love. It always works, I've never had to call tech support, don't have to defrag/scandisk or whatever, don't have to worry about viruses.

Final Cut Pro only works on a mac... it's an apple brand software

ufoclub said:

jaybendy said:

Mac. I'm a video editor and final cut pro works better on a mac. Plus I'm in grad school and use editing software on the macs at school AND I use a mac at work. Love my macbook, the minute I took it out of the box I fell in love. It always works, I've never had to call tech support, don't have to defrag/scandisk or whatever, don't have to worry about viruses.

Final Cut Pro only works on a mac... it's an apple brand software

As with all early Mac products, at one time the did make a version for windows. This also goes for, Logic Pro. They made it for both platforms, but it ran better on the Mac system.

shorttrini said:

ufoclub said:

Final Cut Pro only works on a mac... it's an apple brand software

As with all early Mac products, at one time the did make a version for windows. This also goes for, Logic Pro. They made it for both platforms, but it ran better on the Mac system.

Yeah I do remember hearing that you could get it for PC if you wanted to, but I can't imagine why anyone would wanna put themselves thru that. Just get a mac.

jaybendy said:

shorttrini said:

As with all early Mac products, at one time the did make a version for windows. This also goes for, Logic Pro. They made it for both platforms, but it ran better on the Mac system.

Yeah I do remember hearing that you could get it for PC if you wanted to, but I can't imagine why anyone would wanna put themselves thru that. Just get a mac.

My girlfriend is a musician/producer. She has been using Logic, since Windows. When she switched over to the Mac, she then got it for that Platform. They no longer make it for PC's and I think the same goes for Final Cut.

shorttrini said:

ufoclub said:

Final Cut Pro only works on a mac... it's an apple brand software

As with all early Mac products, at one time the did make a version for windows. This also goes for, Logic Pro. They made it for both platforms, but it ran better on the Mac system.

Are you sure? I've used Final Cut Pro since it's very early days, and had to use Premiere or Vegas for the PC. I've never heard of an instance of Final Cut Pro run on a Windows platform. I'll google it to see... but can't find anything. The developer originally demo'd a version that ran on both windows and mac, but Apple bought the rights and put out the program in 1999. Logic existed before Apple bought it. Final Cut Pro was never out there until Apple finished developing it with the whole DV firewire feature.

ufoclub said:

shorttrini said:

As with all early Mac products, at one time the did make a version for windows. This also goes for, Logic Pro. They made it for both platforms, but it ran better on the Mac system.

Are you sure? I've used Final Cut Pro since it's very early days, and had to use Premiere or Vegas for the PC. I've never heard of an instance of Final Cut Pro run on a Windows platform. I'll google it to see... but can't find anything. The developer originally demo'd a version that ran on both windows and mac, but Apple bought the rights and put out the program in 1999. Logic existed before Apple bought it. Final Cut Pro was never out there until Apple finished developing it with the whole DV firewire feature.

Yep. They first it was first created for both Windows and Mac. My lady, still has the Windows version up in her closet. When she gets back from her trip, I will asked her for it. You are right however, when u say that Apple purchased the rights for it.

From what I see, Final Cut Pro at no time ever worked on a windows platform and was actually put out and introduced by Apple. I remember this being the case back in 2001 when I first started using Final Cut Pro.

Logic on the other hand is not really an Apple product in history. It existed and was used widely before Apple bought it up.

Apple's audio software is Soundtrack Pro that comes with the Final Cut suite of programs.

ufoclub said:

From what I see, Final Cut Pro at no time ever worked on a windows platform and was actually put out and introduced by Apple. I remember this being the case back in 2001 when I first started using Final Cut Pro.

Logic on the other hand is not really an Apple product in history. It existed and was used widely before Apple bought it up.

Apple's audio software is Soundtrack Pro that comes with the Final Cut suite of programs.

shorttrini said:

ufoclub said:

From what I see, Final Cut Pro at no time ever worked on a windows platform and was actually put out and introduced by Apple. I remember this being the case back in 2001 when I first started using Final Cut Pro.

Logic on the other hand is not really an Apple product in history. It existed and was used widely before Apple bought it up.

Apple's audio software is Soundtrack Pro that comes with the Final Cut suite of programs.

Okay....Then maybe I'm imagining that box that's up in her closet.

I'm curious, let's see the box! Take a pic.

ufoclub said:

shorttrini said:

Okay....Then maybe I'm imagining that box that's up in her closet.

I'm curious, let's see the box! Take a pic.

Like I said, I'm not there right now. She is away on business and will not be back for a few weeks. You are just determined to prove me wrong, that must make your day, huh.

shorttrini said:

ufoclub said:

I'm curious, let's see the box! Take a pic.

Like I said, I'm not there right now. She is away on business and will not be back for a few weeks. You are just determined to prove me wrong, that must make your day, huh.

Wow, you have a jaded view! I just want to see this early version of Final Cut Pro, because the mac exclusivity seemed to cause us a lot of problems back in the day and it would be crazy to see that there was originally an option. Plus it would be cool to add to the wiki history of it.

I don't have no preference since I've used PC's all my life. I think I saw how Macs work and I dig it a bit so to each his own if you prefer the orange or the apple.

In the end they're still computers.