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Reply #60 posted 09/16/10 10:29am

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orger said:

JerseyKRS said:

this is how normal vocal cords look during inhaling

this is a tell tale sign of how they look with vocal cord dysfunction

drool

woot!

nothing can bring me down!!!!!!



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Reply #61 posted 09/16/10 10:31am

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The best part is, VCD can be treated with special breathing exercises - no nasty meds! woot!

It's what you make it.
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Reply #62 posted 09/16/10 10:34am

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jaimestarr79 said:

JerseyKRS said:

we've just received confirmation that she is suffering from Vocal Cord Dysfunction. woot!

[Edited 9/16/10 10:06am]

Your vocal cords could cause all those symptoms??

They're causing my throat to close, not letting in enough air.

It's often misdiagnosed as severe asthma, since the symptoms mimic asthma so much.

I'm seeing a neurologist for the other symptoms, since VCD doesn't explain the involuntary muscle twitching and burning.

It's what you make it.
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Reply #63 posted 09/16/10 10:38am

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USA today story here



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Reply #64 posted 09/16/10 10:39am

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JerseyKRS said:

orger said:

drool

woot!

nothing can bring me down!!!!!!

lol great vid

glad they figured it out!

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Reply #65 posted 09/16/10 10:39am

XxAxX

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PunkMistress said:

jaimestarr79 said:

Your vocal cords could cause all those symptoms??

They're causing my throat to close, not letting in enough air.

It's often misdiagnosed as severe asthma, since the symptoms mimic asthma so much.

I'm seeing a neurologist for the other symptoms, since VCD doesn't explain the involuntary muscle twitching and burning.

without meaning to pose as an expert, i was thinking earlier that it almost sounds like you have been exposed to a respiratory toxin.

i work in construction defect litigation, we often have clients whose homes are leaky, therefore mold colonies grow under carpets, in walls.

some of the symptoms described in the initial post reminded me of that.

hope you are well soon

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Reply #66 posted 09/16/10 10:43am

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XxAxX said:

PunkMistress said:

They're causing my throat to close, not letting in enough air.

It's often misdiagnosed as severe asthma, since the symptoms mimic asthma so much.

I'm seeing a neurologist for the other symptoms, since VCD doesn't explain the involuntary muscle twitching and burning.

without meaning to pose as an expert, i was thinking earlier that it almost sounds like you have been exposed to a respiratory toxin.

i work in construction defect litigation, we often have clients whose homes are leaky, therefore mold colonies grow under carpets, in walls.

some of the symptoms described in the initial post reminded me of that.

hope you are well soon

she works in a building that has mold!

mad



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Reply #67 posted 09/16/10 11:08am

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yes, during episodes it gets very hoarse, like she gargled with gravel and whiskey!

SEXY!

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Reply #68 posted 09/16/10 11:09am

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hello lawsuit

  • ASTHMA MEDICATIONS such as bronchodilators or steroid sprays that irritate the vocal cords-- "The administration of Beta-agonists [e.g. the bronchodilator, Albuterol] not only fails to relieve symptoms [of VCD] but may actually aggravate them." Beta-agonists can weaken the LES (lower esophageal sphincter), causing more gastric reflux, and this reflux can cause VCD attacks. And, "...the deposition of inhaled medications and corticosteroids on the vocal cords may contribute to upper airway irritability"--meaning, making it more likely for VCD attacks to happen. These asthma medications can cause or worsen VCD, in both asthmatics, & in people who were MISdiagnosed, who don't have asthma at all! (Ref.4, 5,17,22)
  • ASTHMA MEDS (continued): Oral STEROIDS (for asthma &/or for other conditions), can irritate the stomach, causing worse GASTRIC REFLUX, leading to more VCD and ironically, to worse asthma.
  • ASTHMA MEDS (continued): Systemic STEROIDS (for asthma &/or for other conditions), can cause tracheal collapse, causing TRACHEAL STENOSIS (a type of subglottic stenosis). Subglottic means below vocal cord level. Stenosis means narrowing of the space within. Tracheal collapse, tracheal stenosis, & other kinds of subglottic stenosis, can cause VCD. (Ref. 17--2003 VCD Conference, and see webpage 3).


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Reply #69 posted 09/16/10 11:12am

sextonseven

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Oboy.

Good to hear you guys FINALLY know what's wrong. cookie

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Reply #70 posted 09/16/10 11:19am

tinaz

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JerseyKRS said:

hello lawsuit

  • ASTHMA MEDICATIONS such as bronchodilators or steroid sprays that irritate the vocal cords-- "The administration of Beta-agonists [e.g. the bronchodilator, Albuterol] not only fails to relieve symptoms [of VCD] but may actually aggravate them." Beta-agonists can weaken the LES (lower esophageal sphincter), causing more gastric reflux, and this reflux can cause VCD attacks. And, "...the deposition of inhaled medications and corticosteroids on the vocal cords may contribute to upper airway irritability"--meaning, making it more likely for VCD attacks to happen. These asthma medications can cause or worsen VCD, in both asthmatics, & in people who were MISdiagnosed, who don't have asthma at all! (Ref.4, 5,17,22)
  • ASTHMA MEDS (continued): Oral STEROIDS (for asthma &/or for other conditions), can irritate the stomach, causing worse GASTRIC REFLUX, leading to more VCD and ironically, to worse asthma.
  • ASTHMA MEDS (continued): Systemic STEROIDS (for asthma &/or for other conditions), can cause tracheal collapse, causing TRACHEAL STENOSIS (a type of subglottic stenosis). Subglottic means below vocal cord level. Stenosis means narrowing of the space within. Tracheal collapse, tracheal stenosis, & other kinds of subglottic stenosis, can cause VCD. (Ref. 17--2003 VCD Conference, and see webpage 3).

eek

No wonder she kept getting worse! mad

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Reply #71 posted 09/16/10 11:25am

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If I celebrated this on facebook. Do i have to do it here too?

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Reply #72 posted 09/16/10 11:29am

Shyra

JerseyKRS said:

XxAxX said:

without meaning to pose as an expert, i was thinking earlier that it almost sounds like you have been exposed to a respiratory toxin.

i work in construction defect litigation, we often have clients whose homes are leaky, therefore mold colonies grow under carpets, in walls.

some of the symptoms described in the initial post reminded me of that.

hope you are well soon

she works in a building that has mold!

mad

Yeah, I remember her saying it used to be an old chicken house or poultry shelter or something? Get her outta there, KRS! Damn, mold can make you really, really sick. Have you been looking into bringing suit against the company she works for? Are other employees getting sick, too? Call the EPA and have them check out that building!

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Reply #73 posted 09/16/10 11:40am

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johnart said:

If I celebrated this on facebook. Do i have to do it here too?

yes, dammit! razz

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Reply #74 posted 09/16/10 12:09pm

Lisa10

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The best part is, VCD can be treated with special breathing exercises - no nasty meds! woot!

Great news woot!

Hope the other stuff gets sorted soon too.

Here's some more tits.

[img:$uid]http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt42/florescent_bucket/big-breasts.jpg[/img:$uid]

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Reply #75 posted 09/16/10 12:10pm

jaimestarr79

PunkMistress said:

jaimestarr79 said:

Your vocal cords could cause all those symptoms??

They're causing my throat to close, not letting in enough air.

It's often misdiagnosed as severe asthma, since the symptoms mimic asthma so much.

I'm seeing a neurologist for the other symptoms, since VCD doesn't explain the involuntary muscle twitching and burning.

Do you have extra flexible joints/ double jointed? I was wondering with the Ehlers Danlos previous Diagnosis. I believe it's a connective tissue disorder.

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Reply #76 posted 09/16/10 12:29pm

PunkMistress

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jaimestarr79 said:

PunkMistress said:

They're causing my throat to close, not letting in enough air.

It's often misdiagnosed as severe asthma, since the symptoms mimic asthma so much.

I'm seeing a neurologist for the other symptoms, since VCD doesn't explain the involuntary muscle twitching and burning.

Do you have extra flexible joints/ double jointed? I was wondering with the Ehlers Danlos previous Diagnosis. I believe it's a connective tissue disorder.

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It's what you make it.
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Reply #77 posted 09/16/10 12:32pm

PunkMistress

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Lisa10 said:

PunkMistress said:

The best part is, VCD can be treated with special breathing exercises - no nasty meds! woot!

Great news woot!

Hope the other stuff gets sorted soon too.

Here's some more tits.

[img:$uid]http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt42/florescent_bucket/big-breasts.jpg[/img:$uid]

Oh Lordy yes.

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Reply #78 posted 09/16/10 12:36pm

blueblossom

Hi beautiful how are you doing. I bet it feels wonderful to get a diagnosis for some of your problems. I hope they sort the rest out for you.

Thinking of you and your family and send hugs and kisses across the pond!!

xxxxx

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Reply #79 posted 09/16/10 12:39pm

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JerseyKRS said:

we've just received confirmation that she is suffering from Vocal Cord Dysfunction. woot!

[Edited 9/16/10 10:06am]

woot! Not that she has this...that you all finally know. giggle

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Reply #80 posted 09/16/10 12:41pm

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JerseyKRS said:

hello lawsuit

  • ASTHMA MEDICATIONS such as bronchodilators or steroid sprays that irritate the vocal cords-- "The administration of Beta-agonists [e.g. the bronchodilator, Albuterol] not only fails to relieve symptoms [of VCD] but may actually aggravate them." Beta-agonists can weaken the LES (lower esophageal sphincter), causing more gastric reflux, and this reflux can cause VCD attacks. And, "...the deposition of inhaled medications and corticosteroids on the vocal cords may contribute to upper airway irritability"--meaning, making it more likely for VCD attacks to happen. These asthma medications can cause or worsen VCD, in both asthmatics, & in people who were MISdiagnosed, who don't have asthma at all! (Ref.4, 5,17,22)
  • ASTHMA MEDS (continued): Oral STEROIDS (for asthma &/or for other conditions), can irritate the stomach, causing worse GASTRIC REFLUX, leading to more VCD and ironically, to worse asthma.
  • ASTHMA MEDS (continued): Systemic STEROIDS (for asthma &/or for other conditions), can cause tracheal collapse, causing TRACHEAL STENOSIS (a type of subglottic stenosis). Subglottic means below vocal cord level. Stenosis means narrowing of the space within. Tracheal collapse, tracheal stenosis, & other kinds of subglottic stenosis, can cause VCD. (Ref. 17--2003 VCD Conference, and see webpage 3).

Wow those other Dr's really messed up.

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Reply #81 posted 09/16/10 12:47pm

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MoniGram said:

JerseyKRS said:

hello lawsuit

  • ASTHMA MEDICATIONS such as bronchodilators or steroid sprays that irritate the vocal cords-- "The administration of Beta-agonists [e.g. the bronchodilator, Albuterol] not only fails to relieve symptoms [of VCD] but may actually aggravate them." Beta-agonists can weaken the LES (lower esophageal sphincter), causing more gastric reflux, and this reflux can cause VCD attacks. And, "...the deposition of inhaled medications and corticosteroids on the vocal cords may contribute to upper airway irritability"--meaning, making it more likely for VCD attacks to happen. These asthma medications can cause or worsen VCD, in both asthmatics, & in people who were MISdiagnosed, who don't have asthma at all! (Ref.4, 5,17,22)
  • ASTHMA MEDS (continued): Oral STEROIDS (for asthma &/or for other conditions), can irritate the stomach, causing worse GASTRIC REFLUX, leading to more VCD and ironically, to worse asthma.
  • ASTHMA MEDS (continued): Systemic STEROIDS (for asthma &/or for other conditions), can cause tracheal collapse, causing TRACHEAL STENOSIS (a type of subglottic stenosis). Subglottic means below vocal cord level. Stenosis means narrowing of the space within. Tracheal collapse, tracheal stenosis, & other kinds of subglottic stenosis, can cause VCD. (Ref. 17--2003 VCD Conference, and see webpage 3).

Wow those other Dr's really messed up.

They really did. Didn't the model Krissy Taylor die from this?

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Reply #82 posted 09/16/10 12:57pm

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Thank you Jers for sharing this with those of us that have been here long enought to care about Punkie..

My best to her, and your family.

Punkie get well soon, and keep hounding those doctors..

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Reply #83 posted 09/16/10 1:00pm

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Shyra said:

JerseyKRS said:

she works in a building that has mold!

mad

Yeah, I remember her saying it used to be an old chicken house or poultry shelter or something? Get her outta there, KRS! Damn, mold can make you really, really sick. Have you been looking into bringing suit against the company she works for? Are other employees getting sick, too? Call the EPA and have them check out that building!

yeah, that!^ there are companies that perform environmental tests.

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Reply #84 posted 09/16/10 1:47pm

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I can't stand a gatdamned condescending, dismissive ass doctor who won't take the time to find out WTF is wrong mad

I'm happy u finally found out a diagnosis hug

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Reply #85 posted 09/16/10 2:02pm

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SHOCKADELICA1 said:

I can't stand a gatdamned condescending, dismissive ass doctor who won't take the time to find out WTF is wrong mad

I'm happy u finally found out a diagnosis hug

Having worked in the medical profession for several years now, I couldn't agree with you more.

I cannot begin to tell you guys how thrilled I am that ya'll have a true diagnosis and that you have finally found healthcare providers that don't have their heads firmly inserted up their asses!

Happy Birthday, Merry Christmas & Happy New Year all rolled into one!!! woot!

Thank you so much for keeping us posted on all of this. Seriously, your story is a great example of how to persevere in a medical system that is more about business than about healing.

rose hug excited dancing jig woot! rose

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Reply #86 posted 09/16/10 2:46pm

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BklynBabe said:

johnart said:

If I celebrated this on facebook. Do i have to do it here too?

yes, dammit! razz

Ok...yay.

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Reply #87 posted 09/16/10 3:06pm

PunkMistress

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johnart said:

BklynBabe said:

yes, dammit! razz

Ok...yay.

FUCKER.

Your celebration on FB nearly made my poor brother throw up.

evillol

I'm reading every post with gratitude and a huge smile. I love you guys! I can't tell you what a relief it is to know what the fuck is wrong. And NBJ is right - you have to advocate for yourself, even when they're making you feel like you're just a hysteric. FUCK THAT. If you feel something is wrong, don't let doctors or anyone else shut you up. If I had let them just send me home, I would have continued taking the medications that were making me worse, and I'd have never known there was a weird sideways vulva in my throat.

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Reply #88 posted 09/16/10 3:12pm

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ThreadCula said:

MoniGram said:

Wow those other Dr's really messed up.

They really did. Didn't the model Krissy Taylor die from this?

I am not sure...

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Reply #89 posted 09/16/10 3:14pm

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PunkMistress said:

I'd have never known there was a weird sideways vulva in my throat.

hmmm

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