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Thread started 09/17/10 5:56pm

retina

Tinnitus

Does anyone here suffer from it?

Any suggestions for cures or remedies?

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Reply #1 posted 09/17/10 6:54pm

rmartin70

I have had it since I saw Jimmy Page in concert in 1988. I run into the guy I attended the show with every once in a while and he asks if my ears are still ringing, he got it that night also. I used to have to go to sleep with the TV, radio, or fan on. Any outside noise would help, so you do not just hear the ringing. That could drive you crazy. I have kind of gotten used to it now. This website might help, it says a lifestyle or change of diet can help

http://www.ata.org/for-patients/tips

[Edited 9/17/10 21:01pm]

[Edited 9/18/10 20:49pm]

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Reply #2 posted 09/18/10 12:09am

Cerebus

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retina said:

Does anyone here suffer from it?

Any suggestions for cures or remedies?

Yes. Too many loud concerts and too many raves standing right next to stacks of pounding speaker cabinets. And I swear I never put my head inside one, either. whistling Mine was so bad at first that it brought on a couple years of panic attacks and added greatly to my already severe insomnia issues. I found nothing that made it any better at the time. But it has definitely gotten progressively better over the years (I'm talking, like, thirteen of them - maybe longer). The biggest change is that I became OBSESSIVE about wearing earplugs. I cannot stress that enough. If you're having ringing in your ears now, it will only get worse if you don't do the same. Plus, it's really an enjoyable experience to walk out of a club or show, pull out my earplugs and have perfectly clear hearing. biggrin

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Reply #3 posted 09/18/10 12:12am

Cerebus

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rmartin70 said:

I have had it since I saw Jimmy Page in concert in 1988. I run into the guy I attended the show with every once in a while and he asks if my ears are still ringing, he got it that night also. I used to have to go to sleep with the TV, radio, or fan on. Any outside noise would help, so you do not just here the ringing. That could drive you crazy. I have kind of gotten used to it now. This website might help, it says a lifestyle or change of diet can help

http://www.ata.org/for-patients/tips

[Edited 9/17/10 21:01pm]

Yes! Still do sometimes. And when I hear the high pitched noises that electronics sometimes make I often plug my right ear to be sure I'm not having a bout of tinnitus. lol Outside noise was a MUST for sleeping at the beginning, though. They actually make white noise producing machines now. I believe there's a website that does it, too.

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Reply #4 posted 09/18/10 1:00am

Shanti0608

I have had pulsing/throbbing noise and sensation in my left ear since having severe headaches after my spinal block.

It has been constant for almost a year now. My hearing is hypersensitive and loud noises make the throbbing worse. (As does stress/anxiety)

I have been to my GP and to an ENT. The only tests they have done so far have been a scope through my nostril to have a look around and an MRI (July), still waiting to discuss the results of the MRI with the ENT. Have an appt in late Nov.

The ENT told me it is probably tinnitis and the pulsing I am hearing and feeling is my pulse. He suggested to get a clock radio by the bed to drown out the noise.

I have been doing some reading up on the different types of tinnitis and what I have seems to be Pulsitile tinnitis.

From what I have read there is little you can do for it besides pray it goes away as fast as it came.

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Reply #5 posted 09/18/10 3:07am

nd33

Protect your hearing, my musical people!

If you're damaged, it can't be fixed, just lived with.

I have musicians earplugs made by an audiologist. They do a pretty good job of cutting volume of all frequencies equally, so that you can hear the full range in a safe volume.

Regular earplugs block out alot more high frequencies than mid/low so things sound muffled. Nevertheless, that's often better than nothing. They're expensive (approx US$150 for exam and custom earplugs), but well worth the investment, because hearing is priceless.

If I go to a club or bar and I perceive the music as being overly loud, I'll immediately grab a napkin from the bar and roll my own plugs to prevent damage.

Alcohol will make you brush off loud sounds more easily, beware, you may wake up the next day with alot of ringing in your ears.

It's important to make the judgement call as soon as you enter a venue. The moment you walk in the door, decide whether the music is at an obnoxious level and do something about it (I'll often leave if I believe the place is damaging all it's patrons ears).

If you don't make this judgement call at first impression, your ears and brain will quickly get used to the high volume level and you will start to perceive it as being normal, when in fact all the while it will be damaging your hearing.

Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
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Reply #6 posted 09/18/10 3:10am

ZombieKitten

Cerebus said:

retina said:

Does anyone here suffer from it?

Any suggestions for cures or remedies?

Yes. Too many loud concerts and too many raves standing right next to stacks of pounding speaker cabinets. And I swear I never put my head inside one, either. whistling Mine was so bad at first that it brought on a couple years of panic attacks and added greatly to my already severe insomnia issues. I found nothing that made it any better at the time. But it has definitely gotten progressively better over the years (I'm talking, like, thirteen of them - maybe longer). The biggest change is that I became OBSESSIVE about wearing earplugs. I cannot stress that enough. If you're having ringing in your ears now, it will only get worse if you don't do the same. Plus, it's really an enjoyable experience to walk out of a club or show, pull out my earplugs and have perfectly clear hearing. biggrin

I wear heavy duty earplugs when photographing a show, I can get right up to speakers with them and all I feel is the vibration in my chest, but I can't hear it nod

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Reply #7 posted 09/18/10 3:19am

retina

Wow, the org is usually full of tips and advice but this one seems to have left everybody stumped.

Somebody told me that antidepressants can help against tinnutus. Another told me gingko biloba could help. Then there are always a few people who recommend exercise as a universal remedy whatever your ailment might be, lol. I don't know if any of it works.

Other than that I just encounter people like you guys, who basically say "live with it". sigh

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Reply #8 posted 09/18/10 6:08am

Lisa10

nd33 said:

Protect your hearing, my musical people!

If you're damaged, it can't be fixed, just lived with.

I have musicians earplugs made by an audiologist. They do a pretty good job of cutting volume of all frequencies equally, so that you can hear the full range in a safe volume.

Regular earplugs block out alot more high frequencies than mid/low so things sound muffled. Nevertheless, that's often better than nothing. They're expensive (approx US$150 for exam and custom earplugs), but well worth the investment, because hearing is priceless.

If I go to a club or bar and I perceive the music as being overly loud, I'll immediately grab a napkin from the bar and roll my own plugs to prevent damage.

Alcohol will make you brush off loud sounds more easily, beware, you may wake up the next day with alot of ringing in your ears.

It's important to make the judgement call as soon as you enter a venue. The moment you walk in the door, decide whether the music is at an obnoxious level and do something about it (I'll often leave if I believe the place is damaging all it's patrons ears).

If you don't make this judgement call at first impression, your ears and brain will quickly get used to the high volume level and you will start to perceive it as being normal, when in fact all the while it will be damaging your hearing.

Good advice.

If you are suffering from tinnitus, don't try to drown out the sound -the levels of tinnitus will increase. Instead you should just 'mask' the sound. Try not to focus too much on it.

If you are suffering from tinnitus you may also have a hearing problem. I would advise that you get your hearing tested. An audiologist will also be able to porovide you with more information.

typo edit

[Edited 9/18/10 7:09am]

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Reply #9 posted 09/18/10 6:12am

Lisa10

retina said:

Does anyone here suffer from it?

Any suggestions for cures or remedies?

..,and at present there is't a cure unfortunately.

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Reply #10 posted 09/18/10 6:35am

Shanti0608

retina said:

Wow, the org is usually full of tips and advice but this one seems to have left everybody stumped.

Somebody told me that antidepressants can help against tinnutus. Another told me gingko biloba could help. Then there are always a few people who recommend exercise as a universal remedy whatever your ailment might be, lol. I don't know if any of it works.

Other than that I just encounter people like you guys, who basically say "live with it". sigh

I have read that a magnesium deficiency can cause it but who knows. Headsets and ear plugs make mine louder and the sensation of my pulse more obvious when I plug my ears.

I just try to avoid loud noises but some times that is impossible when you have a baby or if you work around loud noises.

Hope you get some relief from yours soon!

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Reply #11 posted 09/18/10 6:39am

Lisa10

Shanti0608 said:

retina said:

Wow, the org is usually full of tips and advice but this one seems to have left everybody stumped.

Somebody told me that antidepressants can help against tinnutus. Another told me gingko biloba could help. Then there are always a few people who recommend exercise as a universal remedy whatever your ailment might be, lol. I don't know if any of it works.

Other than that I just encounter people like you guys, who basically say "live with it". sigh

I have read that a magnesium deficiency can cause it but who knows. Headsets and ear plugs make mine louder and the sensation of my pulse more obvious when I plug my ears.

I just try to avoid loud noises but some times that is impossible when you have a baby or if you work around loud noises.

Hope you get some relief from yours soon!

Any news on resutls yet, Valory?

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Reply #12 posted 09/18/10 6:47am

Number23

I used to have this when I was wee, way before loud concerts or headphones entered my life. Couldn't sleep for odd whistles, tuning sounds, low level buzzing or humming. I think my parents thought I was making it up. Eventually, they took me to the doctors, who heard me out, diagnosed titinnius and said there was nothing she could do. Bloody NHS, I would have thought if I were a few years older, but at that age you trust adults and have no idea about budget constraints and professional infallibility and sheer laziness. So off home I went with a head full of whirrs and bzzzzz.
Funny thing is, I only hear it now if I've been exposed to loud music. Even then, it goes away after a while. My hearing's very good too, according to some guy the wrok brought in to test us recently. Of course, the cynic in me knows that he would tell the company that was paying him that a cliff could hear the ocean perfectly fine.
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Reply #13 posted 09/18/10 6:48am

Number23

So, eh, no. No hints or tips. Sorry.
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Reply #14 posted 09/18/10 6:49am

Shanti0608

Lisa10 said:

Shanti0608 said:

I have read that a magnesium deficiency can cause it but who knows. Headsets and ear plugs make mine louder and the sensation of my pulse more obvious when I plug my ears.

I just try to avoid loud noises but some times that is impossible when you have a baby or if you work around loud noises.

Hope you get some relief from yours soon!

Any news on resutls yet, Valory?

Nope. I called the ENT a few times. She said that no news meant that the MRI was fine. I told his receptionist that was great but I still have the problem. Since he has only seen me once, I would like to get to the bottom of what is going on. Going back to see him Nov 26th.

I am having an ECG on Wed, been having palpitations.

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Reply #15 posted 09/18/10 6:51am

Lisa10

Shanti0608 said:

Lisa10 said:

Any news on resutls yet, Valory?

Nope. I called the ENT a few times. She said that no news meant that the MRI was fine. I told his receptionist that was great but I still have the problem. Since he has only seen me once, I would like to get to the bottom of what is going on. Going back to see him Nov 26th.

I am having an ECG on Wed, been having palpitations.

Good luck for then. Hope you get some answers.

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Reply #16 posted 09/18/10 6:56am

Shanti0608

Lisa10 said:

Shanti0608 said:

Nope. I called the ENT a few times. She said that no news meant that the MRI was fine. I told his receptionist that was great but I still have the problem. Since he has only seen me once, I would like to get to the bottom of what is going on. Going back to see him Nov 26th.

I am having an ECG on Wed, been having palpitations.

Good luck for then. Hope you get some answers.

Thanks. if it is tinnitis, I know there is nothing I can do. Just want to rule out some other things.

I wanted to go back before I flew but they couldn't get me in any sooner.

If I find out anymore about tinnitis, I will report back and share the news.

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Reply #17 posted 09/18/10 7:05am

retina

Shanti0608 said:

retina said:

Wow, the org is usually full of tips and advice but this one seems to have left everybody stumped.

Somebody told me that antidepressants can help against tinnutus. Another told me gingko biloba could help. Then there are always a few people who recommend exercise as a universal remedy whatever your ailment might be, lol. I don't know if any of it works.

Other than that I just encounter people like you guys, who basically say "live with it". sigh

I have read that a magnesium deficiency can cause it but who knows. Headsets and ear plugs make mine louder and the sensation of my pulse more obvious when I plug my ears.

I just try to avoid loud noises but some times that is impossible when you have a baby or if you work around loud noises.

Hope you get some relief from yours soon!

Thanks, I'll add magnesium supplements to my list of things to try. hug

I try to avoid loud noise too but like you said it's often difficult and even if I succeed in not making the ringing worse, the status quo is bad enough. I really would like to make it better at least.

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Reply #18 posted 09/18/10 7:06am

retina

Shanti0608 said:

Lisa10 said:

Any news on resutls yet, Valory?

Nope. I called the ENT a few times. She said that no news meant that the MRI was fine. I told his receptionist that was great but I still have the problem. Since he has only seen me once, I would like to get to the bottom of what is going on. Going back to see him Nov 26th.

I am having an ECG on Wed, been having palpitations.

It's great that you're investigating it as much as possible. I wish you good luck.

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Reply #19 posted 09/18/10 7:08am

retina

Number23 said:

I used to have this when I was wee, way before loud concerts or headphones entered my life. Couldn't sleep for odd whistles, tuning sounds, low level buzzing or humming. I think my parents thought I was making it up. Eventually, they took me to the doctors, who heard me out, diagnosed titinnius and said there was nothing she could do. Bloody NHS, I would have thought if I were a few years older, but at that age you trust adults and have no idea about budget constraints and professional infallibility and sheer laziness. So off home I went with a head full of whirrs and bzzzzzz. Funny thing is, I only hear it now if I've been exposed to loud music. Even then, it goes away after a while. My hearing's very good too, according to some guy the wrok brought in to test us recently. Of course, the cynic in me knows that he would tell the company that was paying him that a cliff could hear the ocean perfectly fine.

Well, at least you're living proof that it can go away so that offers some hope.

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Reply #20 posted 09/18/10 7:08am

Shanti0608

retina said:

Shanti0608 said:

I have read that a magnesium deficiency can cause it but who knows. Headsets and ear plugs make mine louder and the sensation of my pulse more obvious when I plug my ears.

I just try to avoid loud noises but some times that is impossible when you have a baby or if you work around loud noises.

Hope you get some relief from yours soon!

Thanks, I'll add magnesium supplements to my list of things to try. hug

I try to avoid loud noise too but like you said it's often difficult and even if I succeed in not making the ringing worse, the status quo is bad enough. I really would like to make it better at least.

I hear ya! ( No pun itended) hug

I am tired of hearing and feeling my pulse in my ear but I only know of one way to stop my pulse.

shrug

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Reply #21 posted 09/18/10 7:10am

retina

Shanti0608 said:

retina said:

Thanks, I'll add magnesium supplements to my list of things to try. hug

I try to avoid loud noise too but like you said it's often difficult and even if I succeed in not making the ringing worse, the status quo is bad enough. I really would like to make it better at least.

I hear ya! ( No pun itended) hug

I am tired of hearing and feeling my pulse in my ear but I only know of one way to stop my pulse.

shrug

Yeah, well that would be slightly desperate measure. lol

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Reply #22 posted 09/18/10 7:11am

Shanti0608

retina said:

Shanti0608 said:

Nope. I called the ENT a few times. She said that no news meant that the MRI was fine. I told his receptionist that was great but I still have the problem. Since he has only seen me once, I would like to get to the bottom of what is going on. Going back to see him Nov 26th.

I am having an ECG on Wed, been having palpitations.

It's great that you're investigating it as much as possible. I wish you good luck.

I was ordered to have an MRI because I have a history of aneurysms in my family.

You will find that most dr's are very unsympathetic to the disorder. He just told me to put a clock radio by the bed to drown out the noise in my ear.

I told him that I wanted silence, not more noise.

sigh

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Reply #23 posted 09/18/10 7:14am

Lisa10

I recently was told of a case of tinnitus where the patient had it severely in one ear. He was in such despair that he asked surgeons to distroy the inner ear to make him deaf. They did it, but he still suffered with tinnitus.

eek

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Reply #24 posted 09/18/10 7:19am

Shanti0608

Lisa10 said:

I recently was told of a case of tinnitus where the patient had it severely in one ear. He was in such despair that he asked surgeons to distroy the inner ear to make him deaf. They did it, but he still suffered with tinnitus.

eek

I can honestly say that until I had it happen to me, I did not understand what all the fuss was about. Some days (nights) it is so loud and sensation is so great that it makes me feel like I am going insane...slowly!

I have always had really super sensitive hearing then when I had the baby, it go even more sensitive. With that and the pulsing, some times I cannot focus or concentrate on a thought.

It is terrible I keep telling myself that at least I am not in pain.

I hope they find a treatment for it one day.

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Reply #25 posted 09/18/10 7:20am

retina

Shanti0608 said:

retina said:

It's great that you're investigating it as much as possible. I wish you good luck.

I was ordered to have an MRI because I have a history of aneurysms in my family.

You will find that most dr's are very unsympathetic to the disorder. He just told me to put a clock radio by the bed to drown out the noise in my ear.

I told him that I wanted silence, not more noise.

sigh

Yeah, it's annoying that it's so easy for people who don't suffer from it themselves to just dismiss it. Even doctors. Out of sight, out of mind...

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Reply #26 posted 09/18/10 7:21am

retina

Lisa10 said:

I recently was told of a case of tinnitus where the patient had it severely in one ear. He was in such despair that he asked surgeons to distroy the inner ear to make him deaf. They did it, but he still suffered with tinnitus.

eek

I don't want to hear your horror stories. I want solutions, dammit! fishslap

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Reply #27 posted 09/18/10 7:22am

Shanti0608

retina said:

Shanti0608 said:

I was ordered to have an MRI because I have a history of aneurysms in my family.

You will find that most dr's are very unsympathetic to the disorder. He just told me to put a clock radio by the bed to drown out the noise in my ear.

I told him that I wanted silence, not more noise.

sigh

Yeah, it's annoying that it's so easy for people who don't suffer from it themselves to just dismiss it. Even doctors. Out of sight, out of mind...

I think it is because there is no pain associated with it. I have had ppl tell me to just ignore it.

neutral

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Reply #28 posted 09/18/10 7:30am

Lisa10

retina said:

Lisa10 said:

I recently was told of a case of tinnitus where the patient had it severely in one ear. He was in such despair that he asked surgeons to distroy the inner ear to make him deaf. They did it, but he still suffered with tinnitus.

eek

I don't want to hear your horror stories. I want solutions, dammit! fishslap

lol Sorry! razz

Well my knowledge is very limited (I'm a receptionist at a private Audiologists).

This website is quite helpful. Maybe there'll be some useful stuff there.

http://www.rnid.org.uk/in...2AoddUdwHg

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Reply #29 posted 09/18/10 7:46am

Number23

retina said:



Number23 said:


I used to have this when I was wee, way before loud concerts or headphones entered my life. Couldn't sleep for odd whistles, tuning sounds, low level buzzing or humming. I think my parents thought I was making it up. Eventually, they took me to the doctors, who heard me out, diagnosed titinnius and said there was nothing she could do. Bloody NHS, I would have thought if I were a few years older, but at that age you trust adults and have no idea about budget constraints and professional infallibility and sheer laziness. So off home I went with a head full of whirrs and bzzzzz. Funny thing is, I only hear it now if I've been exposed to loud music. Even then, it goes away after a while. My hearing's very good too, according to some guy the wrok brought in to test us recently. Of course, the cynic in me knows that he would tell the company that was paying him that a cliff could hear the ocean perfectly fine.


Well, at least you're living proof that it can go away so that offers some hope.


I think too taht if your thoughts are labouring upon it, you can invoke anything or increase its potency. I'm sure it would return if I concentrated on it. I remember pretty vividly. I was reading a test study on baldness last week where the control group were given a sugar pill and the others a pill (quite famous/commercially available/FDA approved/can't remember the name) that cuts the active ingredient in testosterone that kills the follcle. Now, e real pill group reported quite a substantial regrowth after one year, but the control group alzo reported new hair, albeit not as much. Maybe you can think yourself bald or hairy or whistly eared.
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