retina said:

FauxReal said:

I thought I saw on the news yesterday that they didn't tell the miners how long it would take. I'm not sure if it's a good or a bad thing. I guess hearing 4 months of being in that hole could be discouraging to them while they are down there. I imagine they'll let them know once they get closer.

Yeah, I'm in two minds about that too. On the one hand you really don't want to destroy morale but on the other hand you could argue that they deserve to know the truth (and maybe that would even help them prepare mentally, and not be disappointed for every week that passes without a rescue happening).

I would probably tell them that we're working as hard as we can every day to get them out and that it could happen sooner rather than later but in a worst case scenario, it might be a matter of months rather than weeks. It's all true but neither optimistic nor brutal. I think it's what I would like to hear myself.

Yeah I feel pretty much the same.

minneapolisgenius said:

What if someone gets appendicitis?

Someone down there will have to do the surgery.

RebirthOfCool said:

Cerebus said:

You're not actually processing what I'm writing. You're reading it and taking little bits and pieces to try and make your point. That's when I walk away from a conversation. I'm responded very clearly to exactly what you're saying - you just don't want to hear it. Lovely chattin' with you, though. I miss the dang NBA thread.

And you're missing my point, you equating your "camping" experience to "trapped 1 mile deep in Earth and not being able to be free until 4 months" is ridiculous. Nothing you've ever done can prepare you for what's in store for these dudes, and it's ridiculous to sit here and try and claim you would be able to do that. You ever camped in a dark room for 4 months, not being able to hike, raft, fish or leave? HELL NO!

I did not equate it as being any kind of the same. You are only reading that one small part of what I'm saying and trying to make it a big deal. I also explained that I love the dark and have no anxiety regarding small spaces. Otherwise, I simply stated, quite clearly I think, why I believe the conditions they are experiencing would not affect me as adversely as they might other people (the same as they aren't, apparently, adversely affecting these men - because it's actually an environment they're used to). And you are 100% wrong regarding your past life experiences not preparing you for what's coming next. That's all that life is about! How could you possibly not understand how a person with wilderness survival, cave exploration and outdoor living experience would be more prepared to deal with something like this than your average day tripper? I will say again, for the last time , that I think what you are saying is that YOU don't believe that YOU could deal with the situation. I do. And I guarantee you that's a large part of what it would take to get through something like that.

SUPRMAN said:

minneapolisgenius said:

What if someone gets appendicitis?

Someone down there will have to do the surgery.

That, on the other hand, is something I would NOT be cool with. I'm sure somebody else would be, though.

Cerebus said:

SUPRMAN said:

Someone down there will have to do the surgery.

That, on the other hand, is something I would NOT be cool with. I'm sure somebody else would be, though.

I would do the surgery.

Lower the equipment and talk me through it.

He'd have to put totally under though.

That's horrible. I'll keep them in my prayers.

Cerebus said:

RebirthOfCool said:

And you're missing my point, you equating your "camping" experience to "trapped 1 mile deep in Earth and not being able to be free until 4 months" is ridiculous. Nothing you've ever done can prepare you for what's in store for these dudes, and it's ridiculous to sit here and try and claim you would be able to do that. You ever camped in a dark room for 4 months, not being able to hike, raft, fish or leave? HELL NO!

I did not equate it as being any kind of the same. You are only reading that one small part of what I'm saying and trying to make it a big deal. I also explained that I love the dark and have no anxiety regarding small spaces. Otherwise, I simply stated, quite clearly I think, why I believe the conditions they are experiencing would not affect me as adversely as they might other people (the same as they aren't, apparently, adversely affecting these men - because it's actually an environment they're used to). And you are 100% wrong regarding your past life experiences not preparing you for what's coming next. That's all that life is about! How could you possibly not understand how a person with wilderness survival, cave exploration and outdoor living experience would be more prepared to deal with something like this than your average day tripper? I will say again, for the last time , that I think what you are saying is that YOU don't believe that YOU could deal with the situation. I do. And I guarantee you that's a large part of what it would take to get through something like that.

Uh yeah. Whatever you say, Camp Beverly Hills .

http://www.comcast.net/vi...575987978/

[Edited 8/27/10 20:08pm]

RebirthOfCool said:

Uh yeah. Whatever you say, Camp Beverly Hills .

And my Gucci tent looks fresh! (brushes dirt off shoulders)

CarrieMpls said:

Are they all in the dark? That would freak me out more than anything, I think. Darkness for months on end...

Other than that, I'd like to think I'd make a game out of it. Make jokes, sing songs, whatever it took to keep myself in good spirits.

On the flip side, I might just try to find a place off by myself and sleep for 20 hours a day.

Baby Jessica sang "Winnie the Pooh" to herself when she was trapped in the well. I think I would sing to myself too.

SUPRMAN said:

Cerebus said:

That, on the other hand, is something I would NOT be cool with. I'm sure somebody else would be, though.

I would do the surgery.

Lower the equipment and talk me through it.

He'd have to put totally under though.

Well I hope if I'm ever trapped in a small, overcrowded cave way the hell underground for four months that somebody like you is in there with us. I can do all kinds of first-aid (I'm even legally certified). But purposely cutting somebody open is not at the top of my list of things to try anytime soon.

Cerebus said:

RebirthOfCool said:

Uh yeah. Whatever you say, Camp Beverly Hills .

And my Gucci tent looks fresh! (brushes dirt off shoulders)

That's not dirt, that's a cave-in .

RebirthOfCool said:

Cerebus said:

And my Gucci tent looks fresh! (brushes dirt off shoulders)

That's not dirt, that's a cave-in .

Cave-in dust. (brushes it off)

I'd have them send down a ipod charger. I have a 160 gb that's full. I'd put my headphones on a listen to all the music i loaded up!!

Cerebus said:

SUPRMAN said:

I would do the surgery.

Lower the equipment and talk me through it.

He'd have to put totally under though.

Well I hope if I'm ever trapped in a small, overcrowded cave way the hell underground for four months that somebody like you is in there with us. I can do all kinds of first-aid (I'm even legally certified). But purposely cutting somebody open is not at the top of my list of things to try anytime soon.

Mine either, but I think I have enough general knowledge to feel I could be talked through it.

This will be a movie.

johnart said:

This will be a movie.

I hope it's in 3D

MISTERHANDS said:

johnart said:

This will be a movie.

I hope it's in 3D

Smell-o-vision is more like it.

what would i do.....

i wouldnt go down there in the first place

scared of heights (its a looong way down) and claustaphobic!!!

purplesweat said:

I'd ask for all 7 Harry Potter books and maybe LOTR. iPad full of songs and videos we could all watch. Cell phone to keep constant contact with family. Lights.

and the Jack West Jnr novels by Matthew reilly... HP and LOTR are vital mentions in JW novels

johnart said:

MISTERHANDS said:

I hope it's in 3D

Smell-o-vision is more like it.

JuliePurplehead said:

CarrieMpls said:

Are they all in the dark? That would freak me out more than anything, I think. Darkness for months on end...

Other than that, I'd like to think I'd make a game out of it. Make jokes, sing songs, whatever it took to keep myself in good spirits.

On the flip side, I might just try to find a place off by myself and sleep for 20 hours a day.

Baby Jessica sang "Winnie the Pooh" to herself when she was trapped in the well. I think I would sing to myself too.

That could totally work in your favor - because you'd annoy the people trapped with you to the point where they'd probably kill you - putting you out of your misery.

Cerebus said:

RebirthOfCool said:

That's not dirt, that's a cave-in .

Cave-in dust. (brushes it off)

You a fool.

Um, what CAN you do in this situation?? (didn't read entire thead)

answer: sit in the dark and take it. Do what you can to survive.

talk about boredom! wow. and the bugs....

I would work on getting a way for the people up top to take my feces and urine up in buckets, and send down fresh water, food and supplies.... but not in the same buckets.

RebirthOfCool said:

Cerebus said:

Cave-in dust. (brushes it off)

You a fool.

Sometimes, yep. Can't deny it.

Not as many bugs (very few in fact) deep inside caves as you might think, paintedlady. Many more of them outside in the world that we deal with everyday.

Here is a video taken by the miners:

The shelter they are in is better than I expected. There seems to be quite a bit of space to maneuver so maybe waste won't be such a problem.

[Edited 8/28/10 12:08pm]

I'm somewhat claustophobic so I couldn't be a miner to begin with.

They're in a cavern with little-to-no light, little air, and 33 sweaty co-workers cramped into a room the size of a person's living room.

Just THINKING about being trapped FOUR MILES below ground with no hope of escape until f*cking Christmas would drive me INSANE...and I mean like; grab a shovel and decapitate myself-type of crazy.

...and BTW the reason why it'll take so long to get them is that they're FOUR MILES underground through solid rock.