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Reply #60 posted 08/25/10 8:22pm

FauxReal

Shawnt27 said:

PunkMistress said:

True.

Yow. I need to get to her before Tiki Barber does. You know he could use a check right now.

I'm pretty sure we had a Gentlemen's Agreement that you get Tiki's wife and I get Elin.

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Reply #61 posted 08/25/10 8:31pm

SCNDLS

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Woods’ ex-wife went ‘through hell’

Elin Nordegren said she never had an inkling.

She said she never hit her famous husband with a golf club.

She said she’s never felt so sad and devastated, and hopes she never will again.

All this and more from the woman the world has waited to hear from since that Thanksgiving night in November that shattered her marriage and the carefully crafted image of Tiger Woods.

“I’ve been through hell,” Nordegren said in an interview with People magazine released Wednesday, two days after she and Woods were officially divorced. “It’s hard to think you have this life, and then all of a sudden - was it a lie? You’re struggling because it wasn’t real. But I survived. It was hard, but it didn’t kill me.”

She and the couple’s children, 3-year-old daughter Sam and 18-month-old son Charlie, have settled a mile from her ex-husband in a rented, five-bedroom house in a gated community in Windermere, Fla. - where Woods needs her permission to get past the guard. The two are sharing custody of their children.

She credits therapy and long runs with helping her deal with the last nine months, and she also kept a journal of her thoughts and emotions. “I haven’t gone back to read what I wrote in December and January; I’m afraid to,” she said.

She has not watched “one minute of golf.” But she can laugh at things now, calling those “Saturday Night Live” and “South Park” parodies of her “pretty hysterical” (though totally untrue).

“She’s been amazing,” said Mia Parnevik, for whom Nordegren was working as a nanny when she met Woods more than a decade ago. “She has held her head high. To go through a divorce is not easy for anybody. To go through what she’s gone through is not humane.”

She is not, however, without scars. In the days before the divorce was finalized, Nordegren’s long, blonde hair began falling out. “She’s held her head high. She has not caved in,” said Parnevik, wife of pro golfer Jesper Parnevik. “She’s not said bad things about him, and that’s kind of an easy game to get into.”

The Swedish-born Nordegren has always guarded her privacy as fiercely as Woods, if not more so. Even in happier times she was rarely quoted. She kept to herself at golf tournaments, staying well beyond the ropes and once turning away when she noticed photographers taking her picture.

Years ago, a reporter mentioned that he had never seen her on the 18th green after Woods won a tournament. “That’s just not my personality,” she said. But the car crash outside the couple’s Florida home shattered any hopes she had of a normal life for her and her children.

The world knew the tawdry details of Woods’ philandering, and many wondered if Nordegren had a hand in the accident, perhaps going after him in a fit of rage when she caught him.

“This was one of the things I had the hardest time with people thinking,” Nordegren said. “There was never any violence inside or outside our home. The speculation that I would have used a golf club to hit him is just truly ridiculous.”

The interview with People, conducted at her home over four visits lasting a total of 19 hours, will be her only one, she said. Nordegren approached People, and magazine spokeswoman Claudia DiRomualdo said no one was paid for the story. Nordegren would not disclose the amount of the divorce settlement but did say “money can’t buy happiness or put my family back together.”

Nordegren said she had never suspected Woods of cheating. She hadn’t traveled as much the last few years, busy with the couple’s children and her psychology classes at Rollins College.

“I felt stupid as more things were revealed - how could I not have known anything?” Nordegren said. “The word betrayal isn’t strong enough. I felt like my whole world had fallen apart. It seemed that my world as I thought it was had never existed. I felt embarrassed for having been so deceived. I felt betrayed by many people around me.”

Still, Nordegren said the couple tried for months to reconcile. Woods even spent two months in therapy at a Mississippi clinic in hopes of saving the marriage. The child of divorced parents herself, Nordegren said she wanted her children to have a “core family,” a happily married mother and father.

Nordegren leaned heavily on her family during the turmoil. Twin sister Josefin, a London-based attorney, was part of her legal team, and her mother, Barbro Holmberg, traveled to Florida to be with her daughter.

But even that was not without drama. Holmberg, who has very low blood pressure, collapsed and had to be taken to the hospital during a December visit after the flu swept through Nordegren’s house.

In the end, Nordegren said she decided that a marriage “without trust and love” wasn’t good for anyone. “I am now going to do my very best to show them that alone and happy is better than being in a relationship where there is no trust,” she said.

Asked about his ex-wife’s interview, Woods said Wednesday, “I wish her the best in everything.”

“You don’t ever go into a marriage looking to get divorced. That’s the thing,” Woods said from The Barclays golf tournament in New Jersey. “That’s why it is sad.”

Nordegren wasn’t even interested in Woods when she was first introduced to him. But she eventually fell in love with him because they had “so much fun, and I felt safe with him.” She called their Oct. 5, 2004, wedding in Barbados “one of the happiest days of my life” and told People she still has her Vera Wang wedding dress. Now she is on her own, just her and the children.

Woods’ golf game has suffered amid his personal turmoil, and he said Wednesday that his children’s well-being remains his priority. But Nordegren said she still believes he’ll wind up as the “best golfer that ever lived.”

Just don’t expect her to be watching. “Forgiveness takes time,” and she’s still working on it, Nordegren said. “She should get a lot of credit for how she portrayed herself,” Parnevik said. “The integrity and respect, that’s her - not him.”

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Reply #62 posted 08/25/10 8:34pm

JowiiCoco

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Oh and about the humiliation. How did he humiliate her? He humiliated himself. He's the one who did something wrong, not her. Shit, my ex-wife did not humiliate me when she cheated (just exposed her for who she really is)...although they'd probably think differently in countries where they honor the Sharia. lol

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eh? the thought of your wife with another man didn't hurt your pride at all?

What she did had nothing to do with me. It was HER choice. All shame was on her, not me.

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Reply #63 posted 08/25/10 8:38pm

JowiiCoco

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JowiiCoco said:

I have no problem with anyone making a lot of money. Generally they put in a lot of work and make huge sacrifices. Money's not everything anyway.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not losing any sleep over this and I doubt Tiger does either. It's just my opinion that she got too much. Makes me appreciate women like my mom so much more who raised 5 children on her own and never even thought of taking my dad to court and you know she needed the money more way more than Elin did.

You know, it's like some adults who think that because their parents have a shitload of money, that they deserve some of that too. I disagree, but I'm sure there's plenty of people around who think that's right.

Oh and about the humiliation. How did he humiliate her? He humiliated himself. He's the one who did something wrong, not her. Shit, my ex-wife did not humiliate me when she cheated (just exposed her for who she really is)...although they'd probably think differently in countries where they honor the Sharia. lol

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You appreciate women who do not take their children's father to court for child support?

Sorry, I meant respect. I have a lot of respect for my mother and the way she handled the situation. She did it on her own without any financial help of a father who wasn't interested in his children in the first place.

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Reply #64 posted 08/25/10 8:53pm

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JowiiCoco said:

JustErin said:

You appreciate women who do not take their children's father to court for child support?

Sorry, I meant respect. I have a lot of respect for my mother and the way she handled the situation. She did it on her own without any financial help of a father who wasn't interested in his children in the first place.

Respecting your mom for making due with what she had is one thing....respecting women who do not take their children's father to court for child support because the father never had an interest in his kids is another.

I have zero respect for women who let the father of their children just walk away with no responsibility....just as I have zero respect for women who deny the father of their children the right to see his kids (unless its a matter of safety).

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Reply #65 posted 08/25/10 9:06pm

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JustErin said:

JowiiCoco said:

Sorry, I meant respect. I have a lot of respect for my mother and the way she handled the situation. She did it on her own without any financial help of a father who wasn't interested in his children in the first place.

Respecting your mom for making due with what she had is one thing....respecting women who do not take their children's father to court for child support because the father never had an interest in his kids is another.

I have zero respect for women who let the father of their children just walk away with no responsibility....just as I have zero respect for women who deny the father of their children the right to see his kids (unless its a matter of safety).

!!!! It was a difficult decision for me to take my children's dad to court, but you know what? It wasn't about ME or HIM, it was about making sure my kids were taken care of.

To NOT sue would have cheated my kids what is rightfully theirs and it is worse to NOT sue and take money from hard working taxpayers. nuts

It is a crime in my book to allow a manto walk away from responsibility concering his children. Looking back, I should have took their dad to court sooner.

I still am nice and allow their dad to see his kids, I bite my tongue and allow my kids to see their dad as a hero, not for him.... but for the kids healthy sense of self esteem, and in time the kids will know that even though dad wasn't around, he still made sure they were OK.

Their father chooses to visit his children only once or twice a year. He lives nearby. neutral

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Reply #66 posted 08/25/10 10:22pm

uPtoWnNY

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have no problem with anyone making a lot of money. Generally they put in a lot of work and make huge sacrifices. Money's not everything anyway.

Exactly. Pro athletes have a unique skill 99% of the population doesn't have, they generate tons of revenue, and in some sports like football, they put their bodies on the line. I don't begrudge anyone for getting as much loot as they can - market value, that's the rule in America. No different than rock stars or actors, but for some wacky reason, folks always moan about athletes.

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Reply #67 posted 08/25/10 10:33pm

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Wow only took 7 posts before the bashing began, thats a new record on the org. Such maturity.

The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #68 posted 08/25/10 11:50pm

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I find nothing sobering or surprising about anything she said. It's just another failed marraige. Like I said before, there was no need for a permanent gag order because there was nothing particularly interesting for her to reveal.

So how are all y'all who were pounding your chests about her deserving $600-750 million feeling? razz lol

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Reply #69 posted 08/26/10 12:16am

Ottensen

SCNDLS said:

whistle said:

eh? the thought of your wife with another man didn't hurt your pride at all?

And his situation no matter how bad does not even compare to what Elin AND her children have faced PUBLICALLY, since ain't nobody heard of JowiiCoco. rolleyes

Bamn. martini

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Reply #70 posted 08/26/10 4:29am

Shawnt27

FauxReal said:

Shawnt27 said:

Yow. I need to get to her before Tiki Barber does. You know he could use a check right now.

I'm pretty sure we had a Gentlemen's Agreement that you get Tiki's wife and I get Elin.

We may have had an agreement but just hear me out. The last thing Elin needs right now is a Tiger Wood's clone. A Tiki Barber clone would be better suited for her right now. You can stay in our pool house when Elin and I aren't around--if that will help.

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Reply #71 posted 08/26/10 6:00am

SCNDLS

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Cerebus said:

I find nothing sobering or surprising about anything she said. It's just another failed marraige. Like I said before, there was no need for a permanent gag order because there was nothing particularly interesting for her to reveal.

So how are all y'all who were pounding your chests about her deserving $600-750 million feeling? razz lol

rolleyes Nobody pounded their chests about anything. I posted a story that was being widely reported. It was never asserted by me or anyone else to be fact. It is still NOT public knowledge how much she got, so you nor no one else other than the parties involved know what the final settlement was.

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Reply #72 posted 08/26/10 6:52am

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SCNDLS said:

Cerebus said:

I find nothing sobering or surprising about anything she said. It's just another failed marraige. Like I said before, there was no need for a permanent gag order because there was nothing particularly interesting for her to reveal.

So how are all y'all who were pounding your chests about her deserving $600-750 million feeling? razz lol

rolleyes Nobody pounded their chests about anything. I posted a story that was being widely reported. It was never asserted by me or anyone else to be fact. It is still NOT public knowledge how much she got, so you nor no one else other than the parties involved know what the final settlement was.

:teahthat: And what ever she did get... Tiger won't miss. Heck he didn't care to lose it in the first place with all that humping around. disbelief

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Reply #73 posted 08/26/10 7:14am

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Im sure she knew all about his habits for a long time, just the fact that this incident was the final nail in their whole marriage.

She seems like genuine person, however she also married him for the money as well.

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Reply #74 posted 08/26/10 7:19am

Ottensen

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Im sure she knew all about his habits for a long time, just the fact that this incident was the final nail in their whole marriage.

She seems like genuine person, however she also married him for the money as well.

Says who?

Y'all kill me with that the only reason why a woman marries a rich man is for his money bullshit. You speak that like it's the Gospel.

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Reply #75 posted 08/26/10 7:39am

Vendetta1

Ottensen said:



suga10 said:


Im sure she knew all about his habits for a long time, just the fact that this incident was the final nail in their whole marriage.



She seems like genuine person, however she also married him for the money as well.





Says who?



Y'all kill me with that the only reason why a woman marries a rich man is for his money bullshit. You speak that like it's the Gospel.


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Reply #76 posted 08/26/10 8:36am

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SCNDLS said: The speculation that I would have used a golf club to hit him is just truly ridiculous.”


Yeah, right. Heaven has no rage, like love to hatred turned, nor Hell a fury, like a woman scorned.

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Reply #77 posted 08/26/10 8:38am

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Cerebus said:

I find nothing sobering or surprising about anything she said. It's just another failed marraige. Like I said before, there was no need for a permanent gag order because there was nothing particularly interesting for her to reveal.

So how are all y'all who were pounding your chests about her deserving $600-750 million feeling? razz lol

so I guess you feel Cris Judd should give back the money he got when he divorced Jennifer Lopez after she cheated on him with Ben Affleck, right?

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Reply #78 posted 08/26/10 10:15am

suga10

Ottensen said:

suga10 said:

Im sure she knew all about his habits for a long time, just the fact that this incident was the final nail in their whole marriage.

She seems like genuine person, however she also married him for the money as well.

Says who?

Y'all kill me with that the only reason why a woman marries a rich man is for his money bullshit. You speak that like it's the Gospel.

Honestly what the heck is so attractive about Tiger Woods besides the fact that he was a great golf player?

confused

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Reply #79 posted 08/26/10 10:20am

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BklynBabe said:

Cerebus said:

I find nothing sobering or surprising about anything she said. It's just another failed marraige. Like I said before, there was no need for a permanent gag order because there was nothing particularly interesting for her to reveal.

So how are all y'all who were pounding your chests about her deserving $600-750 million feeling? razz lol

so I guess you feel Cris Judd should give back the money he got when he divorced Jennifer Lopez after she cheated on him with Ben Affleck, right?

What the hell are you talking about? How did you get THAT out of what I said? confused Your comment makes absolutely NO SENSE. I didn't say anything about the money she got, did I? Silly people. I swear.

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Reply #80 posted 08/26/10 10:35am

Cerebus

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Tiger had what was probably his best round of the year today. Tee-hee. lol

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Reply #81 posted 08/26/10 10:51am

TD3

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Ottensen said:

suga10 said:

Im sure she knew all about his habits for a long time, just the fact that this incident was the final nail in their whole marriage.

She seems like genuine person, however she also married him for the money as well.

Says who?

Y'all kill me with that the only reason why a woman marries a rich man is for his money bullshit. You speak that like it's the Gospel.

Thank you. smile

The only men who whining are the ones who aren't wealthy. It's been my experience most men who have "bank" see their wealth as an "added perk to the pussy line". That's direct quote from some men I know who happen to be wealthy. lol

On a philosophical note, money isn't everything; I think most people marry because they like and loved that person and wanted to share a life together. Relationships don't always workout and as everyone says, nobody gets married with the idea they'll divorce.

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Reply #82 posted 08/26/10 10:57am

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TD3 said:

Ottensen said:

Says who?

Y'all kill me with that the only reason why a woman marries a rich man is for his money bullshit. You speak that like it's the Gospel.

Thank you. smile

The only men who whining are the ones who aren't wealthy. It's been my experience most men who have "bank" see their wealth as an "added perk to the pussy line". That's direct quote from some men I know who happen to be wealthy. lol

On a philosophical note, money isn't everything; I think most people marry because they like and loved that person and wanted to share a life together. Relationships don't always workout and as everyone says, nobody gets married with the idea they'll divorce.

and both rich and not-rich couples sometimes get together thinking they love each other when really they are not a good match.

It doesn't mean they deliberately get married for the wrong reasons, but it happens anyway.

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Reply #83 posted 08/26/10 11:06am

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And Tiger replies with his best round of the year.

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Reply #84 posted 08/26/10 11:17am

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Genesia said:

And Tiger replies with his best round of the year.

I said that up above. lol

Just so we're clear, I'm not and never have defended Tiger's actions. I actually think he's gotten pretty much exactly what he deserved all the way around. But his round today, dang. lol I'll have to wait and see how he plays the rest of this tournament and season. It sure is looking like he may be, umm, relieved lets say, to be done with the divorce, though.

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Reply #85 posted 08/26/10 11:38am

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Cerebus said:

Genesia said:

And Tiger replies with his best round of the year.

I said that up above. lol

Just so we're clear, I'm not and never have defended Tiger's actions. I actually think he's gotten pretty much exactly what he deserved all the way around. But his round today, dang. lol I'll have to wait and see how he plays the rest of this tournament and season. It sure is looking like he may be, umm, relieved lets say, to be done with the divorce, though.

I can't imagine he wouldn't be.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #86 posted 08/26/10 6:48pm

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and how the hell ya get all that money and barely knew the dude???? since when did marriag become a faithful lotto game?~!!!

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Reply #87 posted 08/26/10 8:35pm

ZombieKitten

FauxReal said:

Shawnt27 said:

Yow. I need to get to her before Tiki Barber does. You know he could use a check right now.

I'm pretty sure we had a Gentlemen's Agreement that you get Tiki's wife and I get Elin.

you should both send these ladies your photos lol

honestly

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Reply #88 posted 08/26/10 9:12pm

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ZombieKitten said:

FauxReal said:

I'm pretty sure we had a Gentlemen's Agreement that you get Tiki's wife and I get Elin.

you should both send these ladies your photos lol

honestly

excited

Something tells me that she won't be into FauxReal. lol

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Reply #89 posted 08/26/10 9:14pm

ZombieKitten

JustErin said:

ZombieKitten said:

you should both send these ladies your photos lol

honestly

excited

Something tells me that she won't be into FauxReal. lol

lol but he's waaaay cuter razz

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