Reel said:

DesireeNevermind said:

It bout took me several viewings to realize that the boiling of the rabbit was symbolic to her unwanted pregnancy and the suggestion of abortion by Dave.

In the old days didn't docs used to feed rabbits women's urine or some shit to see if the woman was pregnant? Isn't that where that saying 'the rabbit died" came from? Shit Idunno.

Pretty sure it had something to do with her being preggers though.

The other fucked up thing is that she's doing all this phone calling, fucking up his car, watching him through windows and killing his pets etc. but you have to wonder...where does she find the time? Don't this chick have a job? Nobody sees her trespassing or pouring acid on his car? She gets in their house so easily too.

The best stalker chick was the lady from Hand that Rocks the Cradle. She was destroying them right up under their noses. Man that was fucked up how she emptied out all of wifey's inhalers. Just evil.

Yep, she was trying to tell him that "the rabbit's dead" by boiling his bunny. They used to inject rabbits with a woman's urine and if they died the woman was reported to be preggers.

Fascinating. All those poor rabbits. Nowadays all any woman need do is pee on a stick. We've come a long way.

DesireeNevermind said:

chocolate1 said:

Giiiiirllll... during all that snow last winter I got hooked!

There's Lifetime AND LMN!

Then one day I thought, "Did I see this?" It dawned on me they were all the same.

and Oxygen network tries to sneak in them hot mess love-gone-wrong stories too. Society just can't get enough of the "woman in distress" storyline.

But uh....

I wouldn't be opposed to a Fatal Attraction television series. It could be kind of like 24. Every week you got this crazy bitch plotting and scheming on how to set up or take out some dude she banged all cuz he didn't love her and was tryna work things out with his wife. The twist would be that his wife and his best friend are helping ole psycho bitch cuz wifey is tryna get at that divorce settlement (on lockdown via an iron clad prenup that just happens to omit putting one's life in danger) and best friend secretly pines for psycho bitch cuz unbeknownst to hubby - best friend and psycho bitch were lovers once upon a time and he never got over losing her nor the fact that she gave his baby away. Then there could be the peripheral players like the lesbian police officer who's been helping psycho bitch keep tabs on married dude because she's being blackmailed, and the psychiatrist who knows psycho bitch isn't going to stop but he can't say or do anything on the count of patient-client privilege so like a do-nothing lazy ass he just counsels her through all her crazy scheming, then you could thow in some random muslim terrorist dude cuz these days every show has to have one. And the only one who knows what's really up is the Indian dude at the Visa call center cuz ole psyho bitch always has questionable charges on her credit card like duct tape, machetes, horse tranquelizers and shit like that. But he can't do shit neither cuz he's in India.

lawd jeebus!

Girl, wtf. Yous a mess

2freaky4church1 said:

Harlan Ellison wrote a great review of it that changed my mind about the film. He said it was a sexist film. Remember, it was the guy who cheated on his wife, so he wanted to cover it up by not taking into account the woman's feelings. Sure she was batty, but he should have thought about her before acting all nutty. He lead her on.

He comes out the good guy, while she is evil. not good.

I don't get how people think he lead her on. She knew he was married.

[Edited 8/23/10 17:18pm]

Reel said:

Ottensen said:

I saw that on the extras features of the dvd!!! They included the alternate ending with director's commentary

In addition to opening the public forum on adultery (I remember when the movie and the topic made the cover of TIME) the Alex Forrest character became the pop culture poster girl for extreme Borderline Personality Disorder. While many psychiatrists would argue that it's not an appropriate diagnosis because Alex (as a movie character) was so extreme, a lot of research papers have been convincingly written to show how she at least exhibits general characteristics of someone who is afflicted with this disorder ( although yes, they really made her extra wackadoo for cinematic effect). An excerpt from a research paper at papermasters.com:

Personality Disorder found in Fatal Attraction

Several years ago the movie “Fatal Attraction” brought public attention to a specific personality disorder termedBorderline Personality Disorder. In the film starring Glenn Close and Michael Douglas, the female character played by Glenn Close suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder. The basic plot of the movie begins with Alex Forest (Glenn Close) and Dan Gallagher (Michael Douglas) having a weekend affair while Mrs. Gallagher is out of town. When Dan leaves Alex’s apartment at the end of the weekend the first display of Borderline Personality Disorder is revealed. Alex kicks him out in a sudden rage then returns to the doorway completely calm and almost sweet with her wrists cut. Completely consistent with a symptom of Borderline Personality Disorder, fear of abandonment, the afflicted individual will often make desperate attempts to maintain a relationship. By attempting suicide, Alex is able to keep Dan at her place another night.

This episode is congruent with another symptom, which is the inability to control sudden impulses. When a situation appears out of control for the sufferer they will attempt an act of self-destruction such as Alex cutting her wrists. This first episode of Borderline Personality Disorder in the movie also presents unstable emotions, which is another significant symptom. In a matter of minutes, hours or days the sufferer can change emotions from complete euphoria to sudden rage. This was evident in Alex’s fit of anger when Dan said he must leave.

Unfortunately, in the film “Fatal Attraction”, Borderline Personality Disorder is shown to the extreme. For instance, when Dan Gallagher tells Alex Forest that they are through, she begins to stalk and harass Dan by calling him at all hours of the day and at work and home. When she finds out she is pregnant and that Dan wants no part of the baby, her disorder begins to get violent. Individuals suffering form Borderline Personality Disorder rarely go to the violent extremes as portrayed in the movie. Alex kills the Gallagher’s pet rabbit and boils it in a pot in their kitchen. She also attempts to kill Mrs. Gallagher in the final scenes of the movie. Although some sufferers can become violent to themselves or others, the majority of Borderline Personality Disorder patients do not display this extreme behavior. Borderline Personality Disorder is the most common of the Personality Disorders, afflicting at least 2% of the total population. Statistics would point to out of control violence if every Borderline Personality Disorder patient was as violent as Alex Forest in the movie “Fatal Attraction”. In reality most sufferers do not go to this extreme.

[Edited 8/23/10 12:04pm]

I think the diagnosis of BPD is a bit of a stretch based on the limited interaction that Alex had with others besides the object of her affection. Alex' personality could be the result of a multitude psychiatric disorders. She was a bit delusional, and most people with BPD are pretty lucid. Of course there are co-existing disorders but to really determine a BPD dx one would have to see her engage in a relationship with more than one selfish MF'er who took advantage of her. BPD individuals not only lack impulse control and have untameable rage, but they engage in "splitting" (good object vs. bad object) and many other things that we did not see unfold in the movie. Kinda gets me when lay people get a hold of a term that sounds "crazy' and then places that term on everyone who's erratic. Not saying you personally but just in general.

I see what you mean; which is why I pointed out in my first paragraph that many doctors would not agree that it's an entirely appropriate diagnosis, and the reason they feel that way.

Ottensen said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Heck she should have kicked him out once Alex killed their rabbit or even after Alex kidnapped their kid. Wifey just kept giving ole Dan chance after chance after chance.

Girl, we then wouldn'na had no movie!

Was Beyonce's movie supposed to be an updated twist on the Fatal Attraction theme? I only saw the commercials (cause I'm not giving away my hard earned cheddar to watch Beyowulf throw out her script lines like she has a wad of cow-cud in her mouth).

STOP! You bout to get me fired! I'm at my good gubment job, girl!

I saw Bouncie's movie, but I didn't see it at a theatre. I musta seen it on dvd. But yeah, she did kinda remind me of Elsie...

Shyra said:

Ottensen said:

Girl, we then wouldn'na had no movie!

Was Beyonce's movie supposed to be an updated twist on the Fatal Attraction theme? I only saw the commercials (cause I'm not giving away my hard earned cheddar to watch Beyowulf throw out her script lines like she has a wad of cow-cud in her mouth).

STOP! You bout to get me fired! I'm at my good gubment job, girl!

I saw Bouncie's movie, but I didn't see it at a theatre. I musta seen it on dvd. But yeah, she did kinda remind me of Elsie...

oh Law-red, we 'bout to get Shyra in trouble with The Man

Ottensen said:

Shyra said:

STOP! You bout to get me fired! I'm at my good gubment job, girl!

I saw Bouncie's movie, but I didn't see it at a theatre. I musta seen it on dvd. But yeah, she did kinda remind me of Elsie...

oh Law-red, we 'bout to get Shyra in trouble with The Man

DesireeNevermind said:

TonyVanDam said:

I agree. But the fact that he basically used her to commit adultery (TRANSLATION: It takes two to cheat) made the mistress' then-hidden psychological problem much worse.

He went back and banged her some more even AFTER she called him on the phone acting all nutty and mad cuz he left that first night while she was still sleeping. Even the scene in the park was creepy cuz he's acting like she's his woman. The rules for cheating are:

1) no PDA

2) no daytime romps- keep that shit in the night time where no one will see you.

3) no hand holding and hugging cuz it denotes genuine affection

4) no playing with the dog. the dog is essentially a family member. it's like getting attached to someone's kid.

He went far and beyond using her. He made it seem like their weekend fuck fest was actually going somewhere.

He KNEW her ass was cuckoo but a lot of men, especially cheaters, like the extraness of a dash o' crazy for the excitement. Then they wanna ack surprised when a bitch is . . . well, crazy and does some crazy shit.

Shyra said:

DesireeNevermind said:

He went back and banged her some more even AFTER she called him on the phone acting all nutty and mad cuz he left that first night while she was still sleeping. Even the scene in the park was creepy cuz he's acting like she's his woman. The rules for cheating are:

1) no PDA

2) no daytime romps- keep that shit in the night time where no one will see you.

3) no hand holding and hugging cuz it denotes genuine affection

4) no playing with the dog. the dog is essentially a family member. it's like getting attached to someone's kid.

He went far and beyond using her. He made it seem like their weekend fuck fest was actually going somewhere.

Yeah, I had no sympathy for his character. I felt sorry for the wife and kid and dog...

I think Mrs. Galleger should have kicked his ass out after the cops got the body out the tub!

Don't forget the

crazydoctor said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Ya know....

why are there so often films made about a chick going nutso over a dude but not the other way around? In reality, more women are victims of jealous obsessive men than men are of jealous obsessive women right? statistically?

Movies about women with unhealthy fixations on male crushes:

Fatal Attraction

Play Misty for Me

The Hand that Rocks the Cradle

Obsessed

The Crush

Swimfan

Gone With The Wind (come on....the whole movie Scarlett is pining for Ashley)

Movies about men with unhealthy fixations on female crushes:

Sleeping With the Enemy (although she was his wife)

Fear

Kiss the Girls (although it was more masochistic with dude kidnapping all those women and keeping them in his cellar before ultimately killing them)

I think all those missing films about men obsessed with women are shown on the lifetime channel.

Nope cuz 96% of them movies involve a woman trynna kill her best friend in some elaborate plot so she can be the supportive shoulder to the husband/widower and eventually he'll fall in love with her so she can be a mother to her BFF's kids cuz she was barren. Or something like that.

DesireeNevermind said:

I can't watch that Lifetime mess....I....I just can't. My self-esteem, my intellect, my precious time just won't allow it.

I mean really...how many movies about your best friend's husband/intriguing stranger/controlling boyfriend/kidnapper/identity thief/daughter's stalker/mobster lover/abusive husband/psycho lawyer/younger lover/student turned rapist can one person tolerate?

Fuck that fake shit, Snapped is my show!!!

TD3 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I can't watch that Lifetime mess....I....I just can't. My self-esteem, my intellect, my precious time just won't allow it.

I mean really...how many movies about your best friend's husband/intriguing stranger/controlling boyfriend/kidnapper/identity thief/daughter's stalker/mobster lover/abusive husband/psycho lawyer/younger lover/student turned rapist can one person tolerate?

Come on DesireeNevermind, less watch Maid of Honor tonight 7:00 pm central time. It's about a woman who harbors a crush on her unrequited widowed bother-in -law.

See what I mean???