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Reply #90 posted 02/14/03 2:08pm

BorisFishpaw

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POOK said:


POOK THINK SO

POOK MAKE SENSE SOMETIME RIGHT?



There you go,
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Reply #91 posted 02/14/03 2:40pm

papercrayon

yes ... look at everyone at The DownLoad Society.
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Reply #92 posted 02/14/03 2:45pm

Aerogram

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Do you think it's possible for well-spoken people to be dumb?
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Reply #93 posted 02/14/03 3:48pm

BorisFishpaw

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oh, and by the way, how come this thread has managed to get 4 stars?
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Reply #94 posted 02/15/03 11:03pm

tackam

IceNine said:

BorisFishpaw said:

Yes, I think it's very true that very intelligent people are quite likely to have communication problems, especially with large groups.

The closer you are to average intelligence, the easier you find it to 'connect' on a social level with others. It's a bit like 'being on the same wavelength'.

The further away from average intelligence you are, be that higher or lower, the more difficult it is to 'connect' with others. It is very common for highly intelligent people to be lacking a certain finess with social skills, especially when it comes to public speaking. It is also very common for them to feel a certain 'alienation' from the majority.


True story... you will never believe this:

I have a VERY hard time connecting with people and I am REALLY shitty at making small-talk and such. Social situations are sometimes extremely painful for me, as I cannot stand the banality of the conversations, nor can I even begin to comprehend the things that most people like. I feel like an alien at most times.

True story...


Shocking. I thought you had a very rich social life, and that all of your social group just liked to hang out with you while you sat at your computer. wink

I very much understand what you're saying. I spent my (only) highschool homecoming under a table crying, until my friends brought the party down there with me. biggrin Just being in that room full of people with their STUPID clothes and STUPID interests and STUPID conversations was painful in an almost literal sense. Not much has changed since high school. I'm pretty misanthropic, because most people are just so boring, and have their values/priorities so screwed up. I manage to have a couple of very close, very interesting friends most of the time, and I managed to marry one of the smartest (and most socially inept) men I've ever known, and that's plenty good enough for me.

But as you've noticed, it's a little different in this sort of setting. Some of the external crap falls away, and you don't get to choose who to interact with so much. The result is that you are appreciated more for who you really, intellectually, are. At the same time, you are forced to appreciate others for who they really, intellectually, are. It's nice.

And Tony, you notice that in a forum where people can get to know who you really, intellectually, are (at least on some level), people just think you are fab. Isn't that nice?

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Reply #95 posted 02/15/03 11:38pm

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do you know what a pet peeve of mine is? I HATE IT mad
when people talk using big words that they have no flipping idea what they mean just to make themselves look or feel smart.also i hate it when you want 2 believe that a person is intelligent then they go & totally fuck it up by opening their great big waste of space for a mouth which obviously has no type of connection 2 their pea sized brain.(sorry i went off on kind of a tangent...my bad) shrug
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Reply #96 posted 02/16/03 4:08am

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I am sure it is very well possible. While i think of myself as rather intelligent, i have problems speaking b4 an audience or even speaking up in a group of people i'm not very familiar with. While i seem to do ok in discussions, whole speeches are more of a problem, especially in other languages because i have difficulties memorising large chuncks of text and somehow seem to loose the ability to think as quickly and clearly as i'm used to.

It's like u once learned a few songs on piano or guitar but aren't really able to play these instruments. Sometimes u can play the song from beginning to end, sometimes, all of a sudden, u can't remember what is the next note and u r stuck and u have to start all over bcause there is no way u can determine how to continue.

What i do now is only write down a structure, no actual text, and try to b concious of what i'm saying and reason myself thru my speech. Sometimes it went horribly wrong, but i'm getting the hang of it.
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My IQ is 139, what's yours?
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Reply #97 posted 02/16/03 5:58am

Sataninas

shrug could be, yes. Maybe they have so many things in theyr heads & Hearts, it could come out a word-salad. IQ&EQ.
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Reply #98 posted 02/16/03 10:23am

papaa

IceNine asked:

Do you think that it is possible for someone to be extremely intelligent but not well spoken?

IN A NUTSHELL...

Yes, of course. A correlation between intelligence (in many ways unmeasurable) and one's ability to speak in public is yet to be found.

ASIDE:
Spare a thought for crass over-articulation! For example, you couldn't get through an episode of 'Dawson's Creek' armed without three thesaurai and a couple of dictionaries. omgreadingomg

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Reply #99 posted 02/16/03 4:05pm

Cloudbuster

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Haystack said:

IceNine said:

Do you think that it would be possible for a person to have a very high IQ and to be extremely intelligent but have a hard time speaking in public? I wonder if it is possible for a person who sometimes has trouble putting the right words together to actually be a very smart person.

What do you think?


Stephen Hawking


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Reply #100 posted 03/17/03 3:38pm

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I think it's definately possible. I've always had a problem with speaking in front of people but with written word, and other venues of creativity such as art, music, and acting I feel more at ease and can express my true self. I also took the IQ test and got a score of 120 and have always done well in school.
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Reply #101 posted 03/23/03 9:31pm

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I've seen it happen when the individual has never applied themselves in life and as they get older regret takes over because of what could have been.With all those things inside of you a lack of self confidence sets in.So when they are around other people they cant get there thoughts expressed out of fear.So they appear to others as they see themselves.

Just my opinion
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Reply #102 posted 03/23/03 9:32pm

Penis

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yez
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Reply #103 posted 03/23/03 9:42pm

Muse2noPharaoh

Penis said:

yez




One doth wonder... Who art thou Romeo? hmm
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Reply #104 posted 03/23/03 9:52pm

Penis

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Muse2noPharaoh said:

Penis said:

yez




One doth wonder... Who art thou Romeo? hmm


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Reply #105 posted 03/24/03 12:42am

Muse2noPharaoh

nod I BET!!!


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Reply #106 posted 03/24/03 2:38am

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U just hit my brain!
damn, i'm of those ppl, not well spoken and quite asocial, but very good at expressing myself on paper!
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Reply #107 posted 03/24/03 4:46am

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Damn... this thread has legs!

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