June7 said:

Isn't it painfully obvious? I am looking for validation, as my written and verbal skills are painfully bad. In fact, I am hoping that I can amass enough signatures on this thread to provide myself with the courage to go on living, as I feel that my somewhat worse than average communication skills are limiting my potential for a happy life.

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2the9s said:

BKW said

June

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I've had my share of Profs who had this problem for sure!

absolutely. some are hampered by physical factors, and others by social/environmental factors.

Some people are shy or nervous.

IceNine said:

there are lots of people like that. It's just that they don't talk so much in public, like you do.

Abrazo said:

Awww... :LOL:

Someone's a little mad because I don't agree with them in the politics and religion forum! :LOL:

LaVisHh said:

same here, man. i have 2 get 2 know a person really, really well before i start speakin.

I was gonna say prince

I mean everytime he opens his mouth some total cryptic bullshit comnes out that makes sense to no-one at all.

but then again maybe he's just a dumbass

YEs


at prince cryptic bull shit..

I think that we are all born with a fixed degree of intelligence but people confuse intelligence with cleverness.

You have to learn to be clever - I'd rather be intelligent.

MissCute said:

rofl...MissCute you funny! ... ..LaV is very smart

Thanks, O.

Public speaking can stop a person in their tracks. There is definately a difference with speaking to several people, and speaking to a large group.

I can be a motormouth with people. I can also handle a classroom of people. Never tried speaking to say, several hundred, or several thousand at at time though.

Even the thought gets me jittery.

OceanaOne said:

So she managed to trick you too, huh?

MissCute said:

It's my talented , gets um everytime!

LaVisHh said:

That talented tongue needs a check up.
Let me check when's the next flight to Minne, and I'll be on my way

00769BAD said:

Come on, BAD, I've experienced you being very "well-spoken"

Everybody knows you are intelligent!

what about intelligent but cant spell for shit..???



huhhh...??


whata ya think

IceNine said:

Hell yes. Everybody isn't adept at public speaking. According to those who teach it giving speeches, or speaking in front of a group is one of the most feared things in the world. It doesn't necessarily mean they're not intelligent. It has more to do with confidence and fear than anything else. And sometimes that lack of confidence and fear is a manifestation of different things for different people.

DORA said:

That is me. I don't know what it is, but I have always been an excellent student and a shitty shitty speller.

If someone said something "smart" from their mouth and I said something stupid
thru my butthole---What I said would be
more relevant.

IceNine said:

Yes.

IceNine said:

I'm not mad, why should I?
Disagreement is part of life, Ice. I accept that.

Honestly, I think I like to be, like, willing to.. huh... scratch that.

Sinceraly, I myself think that, you know, like... how do you say... the THING is that er... I assure you! Yes! Definately.

George W. Bush might have trouble speaking publicly, but he is certainly not a dumb person.

Yeah I think this is possible, some people just can't verbally express them selves as well as others, I use 2 always have this probably, I could never really say what I was trying 2 say and people have always mistaken me as somebody stupid, which in fact I was smarter then they where I just couldn't express myself in the same way they could, but 2 make a long story short I got better, but often whenever I do express whatever thought I have I write it down instead of verbally speaking.

DigitalLisa said:

It was always like I could write my ass off, but when it came 2 explaining I didn't know what quit 2 say :Smile:

I think this topic is interesting for a couple of reasons.

Test: A lot of people have above average intelligence, but can't take a test (any test) and pass for shit. I actually had a professor in college that tested one of his students verbally, because this person would freeze up during the test. At least this professor saw the problem and didn't penalize him for this.

Speaking skills: As above, just because you know a subject like the back of your hand doesn't mean you can express it correctly or intelligently. Again, in college there were several professors that knew their subjects, had written thesis on the subject, etc., but could not "teach" the subject to student for on a learning level.

Good topic Ice. However, I think you're writing skill are more than good. I've never had a problem understanding your posts.

Now your avatar, that's a different thing.

CherryMoon said:

I was joking about myself... Luckily enough, I have had the opportunity to get a better education than the vast majority of people in the world. I was very lucky to have been afforded the opportunity to learn about many subjects, especially English.



My avatar is the nicest, isn't it? :LOL:

Out of mere curiosity, IceNine...with your apparent knowledge of English grammer, does anything irritate you? I mean do you see the difference between, say Internet posts, and an essay you write for college, or publication?

I have always overused the comma. I can't seem to get enough of it.