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NDRU

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Sexist Question of the Day--Astrology

Why are women more into Astrology than men?

Certainly plenty of men are into it too; even I have read my horoscopes and while I don't really believe in it, I do find it weird that I seem to fit the profile for a Pisces.

But in my experience it is women who know more about astrology. They don't seem to be more religious than men.

Is it some kind of wiccan moon cycle thing that women are more in tune with? Is it those in touch with their female sides who are into it?

[Edited 8/16/10 12:14pm]

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Reply #1 posted 08/16/10 11:16am

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Men are too strict in their thinking.

2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #2 posted 08/16/10 11:19am

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Everything horoscopes say is true and women know nod

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Reply #3 posted 08/16/10 11:22am

NDRU

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Men are too strict in their thinking.

you think men deny astrology because the scientific basis for believing in it is unclear? I would agree, but they do believe in religion.

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Reply #4 posted 08/16/10 11:29am

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The better question is why is anyone into that stuff?

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Reply #5 posted 08/16/10 11:33am

NDRU

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JustErin said:

The better question is why is anyone into that stuff?

...says the tough guy chick

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Reply #6 posted 08/16/10 11:34am

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I don't know, maybe because the horoscopes often say things like "today you'll meet a romantic stranger" or "you will gain a friend but lose a loved one" or "your relationship with your parents will be strained this month but take the high ground and you'll be rewarded". You know, gossipy stuff about human relationships. razz

The actual predictions, although vague enough to apply to most people, are at the same time specific enough for a man to feel inclined to divide them into true / not true (and since many fall into the "not true" category, they disqualify the prediction as a whole) while women are more likely to make a more general interpretation and look for commonalities and things they can relate to.

Very generally speaking, of course. smile

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Reply #7 posted 08/16/10 11:34am

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JustErin said:

The better question is why is anyone into that stuff?

Typical Aries skepticism rolleyes

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Reply #8 posted 08/16/10 11:38am

NDRU

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retina said:

I don't know, maybe because the horoscopes often say things like "today you'll meet a romantic stranger" or "you will gain a friend but lose a loved one" or "your relationship with your parents will be strained this month but take the high ground and you'll be rewarded". You know, gossipy stuff about human relationships. razz

The actual predictions, although vague enough to apply to most people, are at the same time specific enough for a man to feel inclined to divide them into true / not true (and since many fall into the "not true" category, they disqualify the prediction as a whole) while women are more likely to make a more general interpretation and look for commonalities and things they can relate to.

Very generally speaking, of course. smile

I agree horoscopes tend to be generic, but the descriptions about different signs tend to be more specific. I don't know why someone born in March would be different from someone born in May, but honestly these things often seem to be true in my experience.

To some degree they describe basic human characteristics that anyone can relate to (like horoscopes do) but they also describe the signs with some significant differences.

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Reply #9 posted 08/16/10 11:50am

retina

NDRU said:

retina said:

I don't know, maybe because the horoscopes often say things like "today you'll meet a romantic stranger" or "you will gain a friend but lose a loved one" or "your relationship with your parents will be strained this month but take the high ground and you'll be rewarded". You know, gossipy stuff about human relationships. razz

The actual predictions, although vague enough to apply to most people, are at the same time specific enough for a man to feel inclined to divide them into true / not true (and since many fall into the "not true" category, they disqualify the prediction as a whole) while women are more likely to make a more general interpretation and look for commonalities and things they can relate to.

Very generally speaking, of course. smile

I agree horoscopes tend to be generic, but the descriptions about different signs tend to be more specific. I don't know why someone born in March would be different from someone born in May, but honestly these things often seem to be true in my experience.

To some degree they describe basic human characteristics that anyone can relate to (like horoscopes do) but they also describe the signs with some significant differences.

[Edited 8/16/10 11:39am]

Yeah exactly, and like I said it's when they get specific that a lot of men (me included) go "Hey, wait a minute! I'm not easily distracted or a social butterfly. This horoscope is full of crap" while women might read the same thing and go "Hmm, yes I can be quite a social butterfly on occasion. I mean, I do have many friends. And of course I can be easily distracted when I have lots of things on my mind. It's right on the money!".

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Reply #10 posted 08/16/10 12:10pm

NDRU

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retina said:

NDRU said:

I agree horoscopes tend to be generic, but the descriptions about different signs tend to be more specific. I don't know why someone born in March would be different from someone born in May, but honestly these things often seem to be true in my experience.

To some degree they describe basic human characteristics that anyone can relate to (like horoscopes do) but they also describe the signs with some significant differences.

[Edited 8/16/10 11:39am]

Yeah exactly, and like I said it's when they get specific that a lot of men (me included) go "Hey, wait a minute! I'm not easily distracted or a social butterfly. This horoscope is full of crap" while women might read the same thing and go "Hmm, yes I can be quite a social butterfly on occasion. I mean, I do have many friends. And of course I can be easily distracted when I have lots of things on my mind. It's right on the money!".

But why do men accept that a burning bush spoke to Moses and that a snake offerers fruit to women? Relating to universal human qualities actually makes more sense to me!

I think you are right in your first point in that astrology relates more to emotions and relationships (gossipy stuff as you put it) than any science or religion, and those are key areas of expertise for women.

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Reply #11 posted 08/16/10 12:24pm

retina

NDRU said:

retina said:

Yeah exactly, and like I said it's when they get specific that a lot of men (me included) go "Hey, wait a minute! I'm not easily distracted or a social butterfly. This horoscope is full of crap" while women might read the same thing and go "Hmm, yes I can be quite a social butterfly on occasion. I mean, I do have many friends. And of course I can be easily distracted when I have lots of things on my mind. It's right on the money!".

But why do men accept that a burning bush spoke to Moses and that a snake offerers fruit to women? Relating to universal human qualities actually makes more sense to me!

I think you are right in your first point in that astrology relates more to emotions and relationships (gossipy stuff as you put it) than any science or religion, and those are key areas of expertise for women.

Well, I think there are very few people these days that believe in everything the bible says literally, even among "true Christians". But let's say they do, for argument's sake. Even then it's a bit of an apples and oranges situation, with the difference being that you can't prove or disprove a talking bush hundreds or thousands of years ago, whereas it's very easy to compare a direct statement about you and your life with what you actually know. The horoscope said you should be lucky when gambling this month. Sorry, it turned out not to be true. You lost $100. Or the star sign says that you have a fiery temper. Well maybe you know for a fact that it takes a world war to rile you up. shrug

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Reply #12 posted 08/16/10 12:30pm

NDRU

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retina said:

NDRU said:

But why do men accept that a burning bush spoke to Moses and that a snake offerers fruit to women? Relating to universal human qualities actually makes more sense to me!

I think you are right in your first point in that astrology relates more to emotions and relationships (gossipy stuff as you put it) than any science or religion, and those are key areas of expertise for women.

Well, I think there are very few people these days that believe in everything the bible says literally, even among "true Christians". But let's say they do, for argument's sake. Even then it's a bit of an apples and oranges situation, with the difference being that you can't prove or disprove a talking bush hundreds or thousands of years ago, whereas it's very easy to compare a direct statement about you and your life with what you actually know. The horoscope said you should be lucky when gambling this month. Sorry, it turned out not to be true. You lost $100. Or the star sign says that you have a fiery temper. Well maybe you know for a fact that it takes a world war to rile you up. shrug

true, I suppose both could be seen as simply how you interpret them. The bible's stories might be allegorical or metaphorical, and horoscopes might be vague enough to apply to anyone's life

The key is they both get you to thinking about important subjects and offer some sort of lesson or sign of what to pay attention to and when, and that focus could help you to see your life in a different light.

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Reply #13 posted 08/16/10 3:27pm

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I thought this said "Sexiest Question of the Day."

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It's what you make it.
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Reply #14 posted 08/16/10 3:42pm

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PunkMistress said:

I thought this said "Sexiest Question of the Day."

lol you don't know me at all!

You made a classic mistake, though.

"what's wrong with being sexy?"

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Reply #15 posted 08/16/10 4:00pm

Mach

NDRU said:

Why are women more into Astrology than men?

Certainly plenty of men are into it too; even I have read my horoscopes and while I don't really believe in it, I do find it weird that I seem to fit the profile for a Pisces.

But in my experience it is women who know more about astrology. They don't seem to be more religious than men.

Is it some kind of wiccan moon cycle thing that women are more in tune with? Is it those in touch with their female sides who are into it?

[Edited 8/16/10 12:14pm]

lol

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Reply #16 posted 08/16/10 4:30pm

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NDRU said:

PunkMistress said:

I thought this said "Sexiest Question of the Day."

lol you don't know me at all!

You made a classic mistake, though.

"what's wrong with being sexy?"


falloff falloff

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Reply #17 posted 08/16/10 4:34pm

ZombieKitten

I follow the rule that it's bad luck to read an old astrology prediction to see (in hindsight whether it happened or not) and since I never have a current newspaper or magazine on hand, I never read them geek

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Reply #18 posted 08/16/10 4:40pm

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ZombieKitten said:

I follow the rule that it's bad luck to read an old astrology prediction to see (in hindsight whether it happened or not) and since I never have a current newspaper or magazine on hand, I never read them geek

do you believe in astrology, though?

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Reply #19 posted 08/16/10 4:42pm

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Has anyone made a Uranus joke yet?

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Reply #20 posted 08/16/10 4:45pm

Mach

mcmeekle said:

Has anyone made a Uranus joke yet?

smile

pluto conjunct uranus

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Reply #21 posted 08/16/10 4:47pm

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Mach said:

mcmeekle said:

Has anyone made a Uranus joke yet?

smile

pluto conjunct uranus

My stars said Mars would be entering Uranus this evening, but nothing yet.....

shrug

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Reply #22 posted 08/16/10 4:51pm

Mach

mcmeekle said:

Mach said:

pluto conjunct uranus

My stars said Mars would be entering Uranus this evening, but nothing yet.....

shrug

eek

Mercury turns retrograde in 4 days

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Reply #23 posted 08/16/10 4:52pm

ZombieKitten

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

I follow the rule that it's bad luck to read an old astrology prediction to see (in hindsight whether it happened or not) and since I never have a current newspaper or magazine on hand, I never read them geek

do you believe in astrology, though?

I let myself get totally influenced and carried away by it one time.

Back in 1994, it said "on or around December 8, you will meet your future spouse or lifelong friend"

So that morning, the guy I had in my bed told me "my future wife will be able to play the guitar and drive a manual", I couldn't drive a manual, so I kicked him out.

Then later that night, I kept looking at my watch as it ticked over to midnight and I grew increasingly despondent. A drunken guy breathed into my face at the pub, and then I heard someone say to him: "Hey Warren, have you met my wife?" and I felt an arm around my shoulders and looked up…

…into Leo's face, and I "knew" it was HIM.

I married him, thanks to that stupid horoscope falloff

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Reply #24 posted 08/16/10 5:07pm

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ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

do you believe in astrology, though?

I let myself get totally influenced and carried away by it one time.

Back in 1994, it said "on or around December 8, you will meet your future spouse or lifelong friend"

So that morning, the guy I had in my bed told me "my future wife will be able to play the guitar and drive a manual", I couldn't drive a manual, so I kicked him out.

Then later that night, I kept looking at my watch as it ticked over to midnight and I grew increasingly despondent. A drunken guy breathed into my face at the pub, and then I heard someone say to him: "Hey Warren, have you met my wife?" and I felt an arm around my shoulders and looked up…

…into Leo's face, and I "knew" it was HIM.

I married him, thanks to that stupid horoscope falloff

wow that is quite a story!

So what do you think of that? Was the horoscope right, or was it self-fulfilling prophecy?

For me, if it said I would meet anyone in 1994 I'd say "I'll have to get off this couch first, and that is highly unlikely!"

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Reply #25 posted 08/16/10 5:13pm

ZombieKitten

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

I let myself get totally influenced and carried away by it one time.

Back in 1994, it said "on or around December 8, you will meet your future spouse or lifelong friend"

So that morning, the guy I had in my bed told me "my future wife will be able to play the guitar and drive a manual", I couldn't drive a manual, so I kicked him out.

Then later that night, I kept looking at my watch as it ticked over to midnight and I grew increasingly despondent. A drunken guy breathed into my face at the pub, and then I heard someone say to him: "Hey Warren, have you met my wife?" and I felt an arm around my shoulders and looked up…

…into Leo's face, and I "knew" it was HIM.

I married him, thanks to that stupid horoscope falloff

wow that is quite a story!

So what do you think of that? Was the horoscope right, or was it self-fulfilling prophecy?

For me, if it said I would meet anyone in 1994 I'd say "I'll have to get off this couch first, and that is highly unlikely!"

I think if I'd never read it, I wouldn't have looked for it, and then read so much meaning into the whole thing. A few weeks later I heard from his best friend that he thought I was "the one", which only added fuel to my fire lol

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Reply #26 posted 08/16/10 5:16pm

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ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

wow that is quite a story!

So what do you think of that? Was the horoscope right, or was it self-fulfilling prophecy?

For me, if it said I would meet anyone in 1994 I'd say "I'll have to get off this couch first, and that is highly unlikely!"

I think if I'd never read it, I wouldn't have looked for it, and then read so much meaning into the whole thing. A few weeks later I heard from his best friend that he thought I was "the one", which only added fuel to my fire lol

yes, all of our actions lead us to where we are right now, but do you think the horoscope knew the future?

I think either you don't believe it, or you are reluctant to admit you do.

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Reply #27 posted 08/16/10 5:40pm

ZombieKitten

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

I think if I'd never read it, I wouldn't have looked for it, and then read so much meaning into the whole thing. A few weeks later I heard from his best friend that he thought I was "the one", which only added fuel to my fire lol

yes, all of our actions lead us to where we are right now, but do you think the horoscope knew the future?

I think either you don't believe it, or you are reluctant to admit you do.

what I think is, if you don't read it, you don't go down that path, If you DO read it, you open yourself up to suggestion. This particular horoscope was VERY specific though, I've not really seen anything like it since. I do find it hard to believe that all aquarians met their SO that day.

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Reply #28 posted 08/16/10 5:57pm

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ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

yes, all of our actions lead us to where we are right now, but do you think the horoscope knew the future?

I think either you don't believe it, or you are reluctant to admit you do.

what I think is, if you don't read it, you don't go down that path, If you DO read it, you open yourself up to suggestion. This particular horoscope was VERY specific though, I've not really seen anything like it since. I do find it hard to believe that all aquarians met their SO that day.

yeah, it would seem logical that it is only the ones who read it who met their SO that day, but I bet all of those ones did meet them! smile

I wonder if people think astrology is set in stone? Seems most people would view it like you, as a suggestion "focus on this aspect of your life right now"

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Reply #29 posted 08/16/10 8:04pm

ZombieKitten

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:

what I think is, if you don't read it, you don't go down that path, If you DO read it, you open yourself up to suggestion. This particular horoscope was VERY specific though, I've not really seen anything like it since. I do find it hard to believe that all aquarians met their SO that day.

yeah, it would seem logical that it is only the ones who read it who met their SO that day, but I bet all of those ones did meet them! smile

I wonder if people think astrology is set in stone? Seems most people would view it like you, as a suggestion "focus on this aspect of your life right now"

yeah, if you see that part as important or lacking and your horoscope points it out to you, it's probably only a good thing, whether you believe it or not.

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