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Thread started 08/13/10 8:29pm

SUPRMAN

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Let's talk nature shows . . . .

Nature on television

Cue the fish

Why natural history is such a good business

Wholesome family snuff films

THIS month the Discovery Channel is treating American and European viewers to a frenzy of sharks. There are sharks munching on seals (filmed at 2,000 frames per second and slowed down to capture every bone-crunching detail), sharks attacking people and sharks chewing cameras. Discovery has been churning out shark programmes for 23 years. Yet ratings are sound. Nature sells.

Indeed, it is one of the best businesses in media. Discovery Communications, which also owns Animal Planet, TLC and a few smaller channels, made a profit of $372m in the second quarter of this year. That is about as much as the film studios of Fox, Paramount and Warner Bros put together. Its growth appears not to have been affected by the arrival of another channel, Nat Geo Wild, owned by National Geographic and News Corporation.

American pay-television is a reliable racket in general, thanks to the fees distributors pay for content. What makes natural history unusual is that it travels well. Between 70% and 80% of Discovery Channel’s programmes are dispatched abroad. Nat Geo Wild is a rare example of a network that was developed abroad and imported to America. “A zebra is a zebra, whether you’re an Argentine or a Japanese,” says David Haslingden, who runs National Geographic’s channels.

Not everything works well. Pet shows struggle outside America: not everybody loves manicured poodles. Conventional nature documentaries fare better, but what really sells is peril. “Pit a human being against a predator whose jaws, claws and brute strength can kill in an instant, and the outcome is going to be bad for the human.” So reads the description of one Animal Planet show. Another, successful, programme is “River Monsters”, which features a man in demented pursuit of some of the world’s gnarliest fish. In another series, activists go up against whaling ships.

Marjorie Kaplan, who has steered Animal Planet in this direction, says the “hands-on-hips” documentary presenter is out of style. Viewers want to watch people having adventures in the natural world. She is competing for viewers not just against other animal shows but against all dramatic television. Another advantage of people as subjects in nature programmes is that they are biddable. A nature channel needs to balance the unpredictable, costly business of filming wild animals with more dependable fare.

Sport and films fuelled the growth of cable and satellite television in the early 1980s. They did a fine job in convincing people to part with money each month: more than 85% of American households with televisions pay for the stuff. But those viewers may be nearing the limit of what they are prepared to pay. The best prospects for growth now lie in places like Brazil, India and eastern Europe, where pay-TV is still growing. And the fattest profits will be made by those who can repackage content for multiple markets. Nature programmes are likely to become even more important to media firms.

It helps that natural history looks good in high-definition and in three dimensions.

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http://www.economist.com/node/16793496

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Reply #1 posted 08/13/10 8:32pm

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I love the Planet Earth series, but was so disappointed to find out that they cut it when they brought it to the U.S.

I watched a lot more animal shows when I had a dog. We'd watch together. Even when he knew he couldn't get to cats, it would always excite him.

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Reply #2 posted 08/13/10 9:18pm

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Taking my daughter dolphin/whale watching tomorrow. Hopefully nothing eats us. If so, enjoy the episode if the nature show where they talk about it.

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Reply #3 posted 08/14/10 4:09am

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I just watched "And Man Created Dog" on NatGeo.

Nature shows are fascinating! biggrin


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Reply #4 posted 08/14/10 4:52am

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SUPRMAN said:

I love the Planet Earth series, but was so disappointed to find out that they cut it when they brought it to the U.S.

I watched a lot more animal shows when I had a dog. We'd watch together. Even when he knew he couldn't get to cats, it would always excite him.

yeah that was awesome.

OK, someone better explain Shark Week

were people really THAT excited about it? or was it irony?

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Reply #5 posted 08/14/10 6:08am

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chocolate1 said:

I just watched "And Man Created Dog" on NatGeo.

Nature shows are fascinating! biggrin

yeahthat

I love them. I used to watch NatGeoWild a whole lot when I first discovered it nod

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Reply #6 posted 08/14/10 10:32am

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Nothing is worse than walking away from the television while watching a nature show with the kids (age 8 son and 6 daughter at the time) to pop popcorn....

just to walk back in the living room to a scene of elephants mating full throttle and the lovely looks of horrified childen asking "Mommy is that a penis? And what's that??!"

disbelief Guys, that's the vulva of elephant... that's what a female elephant in heat looks like.

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Reply #7 posted 08/14/10 10:44am

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paintedlady said:

Nothing is worse than walking away from the television while watching a nature show with the kids (age 8 son and 6 daughter at the time) to pop popcorn....

just to walk back in the living room to a scene of elephants mating full throttle and the lovely looks of horrified childen asking "Mommy is that a penis? And what's that??!"

disbelief Guys, that's the vulva of elephant... that's what a female elephant in heat looks like.

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Yeah, it's that or a big cat taking down a baby gazelle, impala, zebra, elephant (something cute) . . .

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Reply #8 posted 08/14/10 11:04am

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SUPRMAN said:

paintedlady said:

Nothing is worse than walking away from the television while watching a nature show with the kids (age 8 son and 6 daughter at the time) to pop popcorn....

just to walk back in the living room to a scene of elephants mating full throttle and the lovely looks of horrified childen asking "Mommy is that a penis? And what's that??!"

disbelief Guys, that's the vulva of elephant... that's what a female elephant in heat looks like.

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Yeah, it's that or a big cat taking down a baby gazelle, impala, zebra, elephant (something cute) . . .

I honestly don't mind my children seeing take downs and animals killing/hunting. This is a part of their natural lives and I want my children to understand how animals feed and how important food chains are.

I don't mind them seeing mating rituals, bird mating rituals are fun to see (like flamingos dancing and such).

But the border line pornagraphy of genitals slamming into one another... I mean, why can't the camera guy get a more family friendly angle?

I don't really need to see a cum shot or vulva penetration... really. barf

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Reply #9 posted 08/14/10 8:35pm

ZombieKitten

SUPRMAN said:

paintedlady said:

Nothing is worse than walking away from the television while watching a nature show with the kids (age 8 son and 6 daughter at the time) to pop popcorn....

just to walk back in the living room to a scene of elephants mating full throttle and the lovely looks of horrified childen asking "Mommy is that a penis? And what's that??!"

disbelief Guys, that's the vulva of elephant... that's what a female elephant in heat looks like.

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Yeah, it's that or a big cat taking down a baby gazelle, impala, zebra, elephant (something cute) . . .

or orcas flipping around dying seals confused

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Reply #10 posted 08/14/10 11:54pm

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ZombieKitten said:

SUPRMAN said:

Yeah, it's that or a big cat taking down a baby gazelle, impala, zebra, elephant (something cute) . . .

or orcas flipping around dying seals confused

my kids actually cried at that one...

also the bull elephant seals killing the baby seals.

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Reply #11 posted 08/15/10 12:20am

ZombieKitten

paintedlady said:

ZombieKitten said:

or orcas flipping around dying seals confused

my kids actually cried at that one...

also the bull elephant seals killing the baby seals.

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Reply #12 posted 08/15/10 12:22am

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ZombieKitten said:

paintedlady said:

my kids actually cried at that one...

also the bull elephant seals killing the baby seals.

bawl

Did you see that one? It was horrible, the babies got crushed while the bulls fought eachother bloody.

I couldn't stop watching. eek

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Reply #13 posted 08/15/10 12:23am

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paintedlady said:

ZombieKitten said:

bawl

Did you see that one? It was horrible, the babies got crushed while the bulls fought eachother bloody.

I couldn't stop watching. eek

so they were just killed because they were in the way? shake cry

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Reply #14 posted 08/15/10 12:37am

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ZombieKitten said:

paintedlady said:

Did you see that one? It was horrible, the babies got crushed while the bulls fought eachother bloody.

I couldn't stop watching. eek

so they were just killed because they were in the way? shake cry

nod Some were biten and tossed, others were trampled. It was pretty graphic, I am glad that now the nature shows are rated now, before they weren't and it was "watch at your own risk" .

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Reply #15 posted 08/15/10 12:44am

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paintedlady said:

ZombieKitten said:

so they were just killed because they were in the way? shake cry

nod Some were biten and tossed, others were trampled. It was pretty graphic, I am glad that now the nature shows are rated now, before they weren't and it was "watch at your own risk" .

It's hard to tell it's the caption, but the caption for the picture reads, "Wholesome family snuff films."

lol

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Reply #16 posted 08/15/10 12:50am

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SUPRMAN said:

paintedlady said:

nod Some were biten and tossed, others were trampled. It was pretty graphic, I am glad that now the nature shows are rated now, before they weren't and it was "watch at your own risk" .

It's hard to tell it's the caption, but the caption for the picture reads, "Wholesome family snuff films."

lol

Where did you find that caption, heck for me it was turn on PBS nad watch male babboons sticking their fingers in female babboons lumpy assholes then sniffing their fingers. barf

To this day when I see primates on those shows I quickly change the channel if my kids are in the room.... body parts are too similar. eek

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Reply #17 posted 08/19/10 3:37am

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I'm watching some great shows here in England. I'm goin to have to download them when I get home. There was one on Penguins and on baby animals being saved. They probably show them in the U.S too but have never seen them.
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Reply #18 posted 08/19/10 3:52am

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SUPRMAN said:

paintedlady said:

nod Some were biten and tossed, others were trampled. It was pretty graphic, I am glad that now the nature shows are rated now, before they weren't and it was "watch at your own risk" .

It's hard to tell it's the caption, but the caption for the picture reads, "Wholesome family snuff films."

lol

nooooooooo falloff

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Reply #19 posted 08/19/10 5:51am

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i love animal planet boxed

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