whistle said:

mcmeekle said:

The answer is no, opposite sex children should not be in anywhere with you. (toilets, changing rooms, etc)

Just because children may get up to no good, get snatched by paedos or something if they stayed outside is not justification to take them in somewhere they shouldn't be.

It's one of these situations where it's not about the parent or the child but the other patrons. So if you do do it, and you get asked to remove your child, by the establishment or other users, you should do it.

The flip-side of this is noisy children in restaurants. If you don't like it find a resaurant that doesn't allow families/children.

So apparently parents should not be out in public with their children.

Children are born, sometimes the opposite sex. So at what age should children not be in anywhere with a parent?

correct.

thekidsgirl said:

I've been in pool locker rooms where women brought their tall ass man-sized 10 year old sons in there with them, and I didn't really think that was appropriate at all

And men taking daughters into the men's room, should not even be an option, unless it's totally empty or a single stall!

So a single Dad is supposed to trust a random woman to escort his daughter(s) in and out of the ladies room?!!

SUPRMAN said:

thekidsgirl said:

I've been in pool locker rooms where women brought their tall ass man-sized 10 year old sons in there with them, and I didn't really think that was appropriate at all

And men taking daughters into the men's room, should not even be an option, unless it's totally empty or a single stall!

So a single Dad is supposed to trust a random woman to escort his daughter(s) in and out of the ladies room?!!

I've witnessed a guy kinda yell into the men's room first to tell the other guys who may have been in their that he was coming in with his daughter, and I thought that was a good idea for an emergency situation.

thekidsgirl said:

SUPRMAN said:

So a single Dad is supposed to trust a random woman to escort his daughter(s) in and out of the ladies room?!!

I've witnessed a guy kinda yell into the men's room first to tell the other guys who may have been in their that he was coming in with his daughter, and I thought that was a good idea for an emergency situation.

That works for me

Acrylic said:

bluesbaby said:

My son is over 4 feet tall, and he is five. He goes in the stall with me, if need be, and if we were at a store, I would take him into the changing room--though his patience level is nil, so I try not to shop for myself with him.

Holy shit. I'm only 4'11".

yeah, he is a big kid.

SUPRMAN said:

thekidsgirl said:

I've been in pool locker rooms where women brought their tall ass man-sized 10 year old sons in there with them, and I didn't really think that was appropriate at all

And men taking daughters into the men's room, should not even be an option, unless it's totally empty or a single stall!

So a single Dad is supposed to trust a random woman to escort his daughter(s) in and out of the ladies room?!!

shoot, if I were in a ladies room and a guy had his daughter with him, I would be cool with him coming in there so she could use the bathroom.

bluesbaby said:

SUPRMAN said:

So a single Dad is supposed to trust a random woman to escort his daughter(s) in and out of the ladies room?!!

shoot, if I were in a ladies room and a guy had his daughter with him, I would be cool with him coming in there so she could use the bathroom.

ladies room is fine, we don't all have our willies hanging out!

Much ado about nothing.

You make it sound like the mom's in their switching up her tampon. Any decent clothing store has individual dressing rooms complete with mirror and chair or bench for sitting and a door to lock for privacy. There's no reason why women in the other fitting rooms should feel uncomfortable unless lil boy is running around knocking on doors yellin' "LEMME SEE UR TITS!"

DesireeNevermind said:

Much ado about nothing.

You make it sound like the mom's in their switching up her tampon. Any decent clothing store has individual dressing rooms complete with mirror and chair or bench for sitting and a door to lock for privacy. There's no reason why women in the other fitting rooms should feel uncomfortable unless lil boy is running around knocking on doors yellin' "LEMME SEE UR TITS!"

I haven't been in a fitting room with locks in like, forever. Ten years maybe. A really long time.

Cerebus said:

I haven't been in a fitting room with locks in like, forever. Ten years maybe. A really long time.

your clothes might be a little out of date then?

ZombieKitten said:

Cerebus said:

I haven't been in a fitting room with locks in like, forever. Ten years maybe. A really long time.

your clothes might be a little out of date then?

But what do you mean?

ZombieKitten said:

Cerebus said:

I haven't been in a fitting room with locks in like, forever. Ten years maybe. A really long time.

your clothes might be a little out of date then?

Umm, OK. Well I'll make you a deal. Next time you're in the Bay Area we'll visit all the men's fitting rooms I've been in over the last decade that don't have locks. Maybe it's a guy thing, but they just don't have locks anymore. A lot of them don't even have a knob - just a magnet.

Cerebus said:

ZombieKitten said:

your clothes might be a little out of date then?

Umm, OK. Well I'll make you a deal. Next time you're in the Bay Area we'll visit all the men's fitting rooms I've been in over the last decade that don't have locks. Maybe it's a guy thing, but they just don't have locks anymore. A lot of them don't even have a knob - just a magnet.

no, you are right

most of them here are just a curtain even! or those magnet things

it's me that hasn't been clothes shopping in a looooong while

ZombieKitten said:

Cerebus said:

Umm, OK. Well I'll make you a deal. Next time you're in the Bay Area we'll visit all the men's fitting rooms I've been in over the last decade that don't have locks. Maybe it's a guy thing, but they just don't have locks anymore. A lot of them don't even have a knob - just a magnet.

no, you are right

most of them here are just a curtain even! or those magnet things

it's me that hasn't been clothes shopping in a looooong while

Awww. Dang. And here I was looking forward to visiting men's fitting rooms with you.

Cerebus said:

ZombieKitten said:

no, you are right

most of them here are just a curtain even! or those magnet things

it's me that hasn't been clothes shopping in a looooong while

Awww. Dang. And here I was looking forward to visiting men's fitting rooms with you.

where were you last year when I DID come to the Bay Area??? we were staying over near Jack London Square and eveyrthing!

ZombieKitten said:

Cerebus said:

Awww. Dang. And here I was looking forward to visiting men's fitting rooms with you.

where were you last year when I DID come to the Bay Area??? we were staying over near Jack London Square and eveyrthing!

I could have thrown rocks at you... with a slingshot. Wasn't regularly frequenting the Org then, I guess. Next time. I like to tour guide.

SUPRMAN said:

So apparently parents should not be out in public with their children.

Children are born, sometimes the opposite sex. So at what age should children not be in anywhere with a parent?

Now you're being silly.

Cerebus said:

ZombieKitten said:

where were you last year when I DID come to the Bay Area??? we were staying over near Jack London Square and eveyrthing!

I could have thrown rocks at you... with a slingshot. Wasn't regularly frequenting the Org then, I guess. Next time. I like to tour guide.

yeah I know! I could probably see your place from the ferry!

oh well, next time I take you up on it for sure!!

SUPRMAN said:

prb said:

a lot of shopping centres have parenting rooms, where mums can go and breast feed...AND men can safely take their daughters to use the facilities.

a lot of these rooms have curtained areas, where if you are a shy feeding mum, you can sit behind.

i actually told a young dad one day to ignore the other women who were glareing at him, he had just as much right to be there as his partner did.

saying that, i still wait outside the mens room when my son (11) is inside, where i am in yelling distance.

its a sad fact, the world isnt safe these days.

this story has always stuck in my mind

http://news.ninemsn.com.a...x?id=95062

There was a similar story that occurred in Primm, Nevada, just outside Las Vegas about 10 years ago maybe. I was there at the time the child was snatched and killed by two men in a restroom at the hotel.

SUPRMAN said:

thekidsgirl said:

I've been in pool locker rooms where women brought their tall ass man-sized 10 year old sons in there with them, and I didn't really think that was appropriate at all

And men taking daughters into the men's room, should not even be an option, unless it's totally empty or a single stall!

So a single Dad is supposed to trust a random woman to escort his daughter(s) in and out of the ladies room?!!

I've done this often, as of today in fact. Yeah, we have some women who are capable of evil mess but lets get real more often it's usually men.

In downtown Chicago they're posedt signs outside some of the public bathrooms saying, 'Security monitor these bathrooms anyone engaging impropriety . . . will be arrested'. Found out some where using the bathrooms a cruising spots. The store New York & Company a sales rep has to give you a key to use the fitting room. Why? Some guy was sneaking in videotaping women in various stages of undress. Some people are tripping about kids, when it's the crazy/twisted adults who are the problem.