and if i could find someone to shag other than my self and my husband ...then fuck YEAH! ..

Wait, wait, wait one damn mintue . . . back up the truck.

I sure in the hell don't think women have a monopoly on "crazy behavior". Truth be told many times men crazy behavior leaves with them with just their fingers and "mary" for pleasure. All of sudden we've flipped this to crazy ass women . . . give me a break. Save me the bullshit about men wanting "it" all the time anytime and anywhere, so many women would beg to differ with that perception. Many people aren't honest nor do they speak up about this or that concerning their sexual needs or what the need from their relationships. It's not always easy but not having those types of conversations only lends its self to mounting problems and misunderstandings. (IMO)

As far as Cerebus unfounded and ridiculous statement(s) that, "far fewer men wield the power of sex like a weapon against their partner the way women in a commited relationship". My God. Lease speak to facts. Less than 15 percent of United Nations States members have laws againts martial rape. In our country (United States of America) it's only been since the late 70's and 80's that all 50 States have refined and/or revised state laws to say marital rape is a crime. Twenty-Five percent of rapes in America are martial rapes. Still, the majority of women around the world don't have a say or any rights to say NO, don't have right or access to birth control, can be stoned and burned at the stake at the mere whispers by any man that she's had sexual relations outside or during marriage. Women are killed by male members of their families - when they've been the victims of rape - in order for the family to regain their "honor". I'm not sure what books you've read Cerebus, but you been grossly misinformed.

I find the wield the power of sex like a weapon very interesting choice of words.

[Edited 7/26/10 8:18am]

blackbob said:

I'll give you the advice I gave an ex of mine. Instead of trying to figure out "women" you're better off trying to figure out one at a time.

ZombieKitten said:

JustErin said:

I don't think marriage would change anything though. It's not like I haven't been in a long term relationship in the past. The sex really really changed.

I actually don't know why it seems to do that

We are parents (of 3) with own business and full time job and 3 different bands, we don't have so much time, but we can always fit in some sex, at least 2-3 times a week, I am the one that makes sure of it. I'm the initiator. I'd initiate it probably 3-4 more times than I do if he weren't already snoring and snoring is a turn-off

Do women's libidos drop off so dramatically? Are they no longer attracted to their mates in that way? (after getting to know them better) I hate to think some use it as a form of currency.

I've argued this subject in GD from the other point of view before, that women can't simply view their partner in a merely physical way, and that if there is a lot of emotional drama or lack or emotions/care/support/attention, then the attraction will probably erode after some time, no matter how healthy their libido might be initially.

Oh shit.

Holy typo. I meant it never really changed.

CarrieMpls said:

I'll give you the advice I gave an ex of mine. Instead of trying to figure out "women" you're better off trying to figure out one at a time.

Amen

Mach said:

whistle said:

all of you women who are claiming "i'm not like those crazy bitches", i want to interview your SOs and exes.

Please do !

Yup. Feel free.

JustErin said:

I think you maybe just don't understand your gf.

exactly!

CarrieMpls said:

Mach said:

Please do !

Yup. Feel free.

Me too, not saying I'm not crazy because I know I was a tempermental hothead at times...but I don't think I have ever said "no" to a bf, so that was never an issue.

I mean, even if I had a terrible day, was tired, felt awful...I wouldn't say no to sex. To me it's an escape from everything, it feels amazing and is a huge stress releaser. Even if I was mad at my bf, it didn't stop me from doing it. Angry sex is pretty hot.

Women will never be fully understood.

That's a main reason I keep the hell away from 'em.

But as for sex, I found that the easiest way for men to get into my pants wasn't by asking me ANYTHING. 'Wanna screw?' or 'Wanna fuck?' are lame. Compliment me in some way, start kissing, start rubbing, and lead it into sex. Once the woman is hot 'n bothered, she's not gonna want to turn you down.

I'm very open about my sexuality, and I'm not one of those crazy bitches who always change their minds around once in a relationship. For instance, I had an ex who cheated on me. We fucked like rabbits before the incident, and after the incident we didn't fuck at all. I didn't play games; I said, "You cheated on me, you don't deserve to have sex with me." and that was that. I broke up with him shortly after and found someone who I did want to have sex with.

If your woman is sending mixed signals, changing her mind all the time, or using sex as a tool, I say dump the bitch and find a woman with her head on straight and the level of maturity you want.

maybe black bob prefers girls to women... ???

Acrylic said:

Women will never be fully understood.

That's a main reason I keep the hell away from 'em.

But as for sex, I found that the easiest way for men to get into my pants wasn't by asking me ANYTHING. 'Wanna screw?' or 'Wanna fuck?' are lame. Compliment me in some way, start kissing, start rubbing, and lead it into sex. Once the woman is hot 'n bothered, she's not gonna want to turn you down.

I'm very open about my sexuality, and I'm not one of those crazy bitches who always change their minds around once in a relationship. For instance, I had an ex who cheated on me. We fucked like rabbits before the incident, and after the incident we didn't fuck at all. I didn't play games; I said, "You cheated on me, you don't deserve to have sex with me." and that was that. I broke up with him shortly after and found someone who I did want to have sex with.

If your woman is sending mixed signals, changing her mind all the time, or using sex as a tool, I say dump the bitch and find a woman with her head on straight and the level of maturity you want.

Nothing gets me hotter than "I wanna fuck you so bad".

I don't need a slow build up at all. Just shows you that women really are not all the same.

whats to understand...there's no handbook or manual...I've just always liked 'em..even the bat shit crazy ones...

Coitus usually bores the hell out of me, I certainly prefer a good oral/foreplay session (unless I'm really horny), and I've NEVER found a woman who didn't want her pussy licked or her body massaged or something similar,... so I don't have problems with women... in bed...

the problem is called COITUS: some men just want to stick his penis somewhere, otherwise they're not happy ...

[Edited 7/26/10 11:13am]

JustErin said:

Acrylic said:

Women will never be fully understood.

That's a main reason I keep the hell away from 'em.

But as for sex, I found that the easiest way for men to get into my pants wasn't by asking me ANYTHING. 'Wanna screw?' or 'Wanna fuck?' are lame. Compliment me in some way, start kissing, start rubbing, and lead it into sex. Once the woman is hot 'n bothered, she's not gonna want to turn you down.

I'm very open about my sexuality, and I'm not one of those crazy bitches who always change their minds around once in a relationship. For instance, I had an ex who cheated on me. We fucked like rabbits before the incident, and after the incident we didn't fuck at all. I didn't play games; I said, "You cheated on me, you don't deserve to have sex with me." and that was that. I broke up with him shortly after and found someone who I did want to have sex with.

If your woman is sending mixed signals, changing her mind all the time, or using sex as a tool, I say dump the bitch and find a woman with her head on straight and the level of maturity you want.

Nothing gets me hotter than "I wanna fuck you so bad".

I don't need a slow build up at all. Just shows you that women really are not all the same.

True and men aren't the same either. We are people

I'm tired of the general idea being that women have the monopoly on crazy. It just isn't the case. I have stories (i'm not arguing against you Erin)

JoeTyler said:

and I've NEVER found a woman who didn't want his pussy licked...

ok

Okay, I'm having a sex issue right now myself.

I need sex pretty much every day, and typically don't turn it down.

But lately my partnre has been whining a lot, and he's also said a few things that have rubbed me the wrong way.

I could probably get over the few things that have annoyed me and just have sex anyway, but the whining is a HUGE HUGE HUGE turn off.

I need a man, not a pussy.

minneapolisgenius said:

JoeTyler said:

and I've NEVER found a woman who didn't want his pussy licked...

ok

damn, i keep posting subliminary gay messages...

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Okay, I'm having a sex issue right now myself.

I need sex pretty much every day, and typically don't turn it down.

But lately my partnre has been whining a lot, and he's also said a few things that have rubbed me the wrong way.

I could probably get over the few things that have annoyed me and just have sex anyway, but the whining is a HUGE HUGE HUGE turn off.

I need a man, not a pussy.

Tell 'em to stop his whining man up and give it up

ok thats just me. just tell him whats on your mind. That is all.

JoeTyler said:

minneapolisgenius said:

ok

damn, i keep posting subliminary gay messages...

It just made me think of the "tucking" scene in Silence of the Lambs for a minute.

minneapolisgenius said:

JoeTyler said:

damn, i keep posting subliminary gay messages...

It just made me think of the "tucking" scene in Silence of the Lambs for a minute.

haha shit dude, shit hehehe

heybaby said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Okay, I'm having a sex issue right now myself.

I need sex pretty much every day, and typically don't turn it down.

But lately my partnre has been whining a lot, and he's also said a few things that have rubbed me the wrong way.

I could probably get over the few things that have annoyed me and just have sex anyway, but the whining is a HUGE HUGE HUGE turn off.

I need a man, not a pussy.

Tell 'em to stop his whining man up and give it up

ok thats just me. just tell him whats on your mind. That is all.

I did. I did. It didn't help.

I can't figure out if "she" is your wife or not.

How commited are you to this one woman?

Some orgers say "dump her" , but then female orgers tend to be a very horney lot and they don't generally say no, EVER.

Sex isn't everything, but surveys show that couple that have great sex often work harder when they get to tough times and are less likely to throw in the towel.

You deffinately need to sit this woman down. Like I said before we are all soooo different advice that would work perfectly for one of us would absolutely not work for another. As I said before JustErin and I are almost polar opposites, and that is simply the way that we are.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

heybaby said:

Tell 'em to stop his whining man up and give it up

ok thats just me. just tell him whats on your mind. That is all.

I did. I did. It didn't help.

Well he must be crazy then

I don't know Dani. If not willing to listen then just do whatever will make YOU happy.

heybaby said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

I did. I did. It didn't help.

Well he must be crazy then

I don't know Dani. If not willing to listen then just do whatever will make YOU happy.

Yup.

Thats my plan. I have no one to answer to, but me, myself and I, and no one to worry about but me and the kids. I love it.

to be honest, I don't understand your girlfriend either.

JustErin said:

Acrylic said:

Women will never be fully understood.

That's a main reason I keep the hell away from 'em.

But as for sex, I found that the easiest way for men to get into my pants wasn't by asking me ANYTHING. 'Wanna screw?' or 'Wanna fuck?' are lame. Compliment me in some way, start kissing, start rubbing, and lead it into sex. Once the woman is hot 'n bothered, she's not gonna want to turn you down.

I'm very open about my sexuality, and I'm not one of those crazy bitches who always change their minds around once in a relationship. For instance, I had an ex who cheated on me. We fucked like rabbits before the incident, and after the incident we didn't fuck at all. I didn't play games; I said, "You cheated on me, you don't deserve to have sex with me." and that was that. I broke up with him shortly after and found someone who I did want to have sex with.

If your woman is sending mixed signals, changing her mind all the time, or using sex as a tool, I say dump the bitch and find a woman with her head on straight and the level of maturity you want.

Nothing gets me hotter than "I wanna fuck you so bad".

I don't need a slow build up at all. Just shows you that women really are not all the same.

I think my distaste for it is because I get comments like that when I'm out in public by random ass people tryna spit "game". It's become a total turn-off to come out-the-blue with that.

When I'm already hot 'n ready with a guy I'm into, on the other hand...

Acrylic said:

JustErin said:

Nothing gets me hotter than "I wanna fuck you so bad".

I don't need a slow build up at all. Just shows you that women really are not all the same.

I think my distaste for it is because I get comments like that when I'm out in public by random ass people tryna spit "game". It's become a total turn-off to come out-the-blue with that.

When I'm already hot 'n ready with a guy I'm into, on the other hand...

Same, but I am a master at tuning that unwanted shit out.

But I still love it coming from a hot dude. I really get off on having sexual power, you know. I'm sure you're shocked to hear that.

Not to get off the whole "crazy bitches" theme, but going back to the original post from blackbob, you say you're in your 40's and still can't figure out what your gf wants? How many relationships have you been in? (Seriously.) And of those, have you been trying to be the nice, senitive guy? Not to pummel on you, but you sound like a wuss. (Don't feel bad; I was a total wuss for a long time myself.)

Ideally, all the women we go out with would be like JustErin and come out directly and ask us men to fuck them like a rabid beast and pull their hair while we savage them from behind. Or at least be like ZK and encourage us to clean around the house with the promise of some nice oral pleasure. (BTW ZK, I'd clean your dishes, but it would take me over 17 hours just to get to your country , and that's a long way to go to get a BJ.) Unfortunately, most women have been conditioned not to put out sexually, even with their husbands/boyfriends, because they don't want to be seen as sluts. So they expect their men to initiate every sexual encounter, even if they dripping wet horny. And the one thing that most of these women hate is a guy who acts wimpy or whiny. They want a man who will lead them. (I'm not being chauvinistic here; it's just the way women are wired biologically when it comes to relationships and sex.) So in yiour case, you need to find your manhood and take control of your relationship (but not too much; don't be an asshole or stalker).

The next time you're with your girlfriend, just put your arm around her and cudlle her without her asking for it. If she rejects you, then leave her alone; she's probably way too high maintenance for you and you're better off just cutting your losses and moving on. But if she accepts, then just escalate the sexual tension slowly, lightly kissing her and/or giving her a massage, and remember to be in control the whole time. If you do this right, she will get really excited around you and will be begging you to ravish her in bed. If she is still resistant, than she probably has some intimacy issues that she needs to deal with herself.

[Edited 7/26/10 16:17pm]

JustErin said:

ZombieKitten said:

I actually don't know why it seems to do that

We are parents (of 3) with own business and full time job and 3 different bands, we don't have so much time, but we can always fit in some sex, at least 2-3 times a week, I am the one that makes sure of it. I'm the initiator. I'd initiate it probably 3-4 more times than I do if he weren't already snoring and snoring is a turn-off

Do women's libidos drop off so dramatically? Are they no longer attracted to their mates in that way? (after getting to know them better) I hate to think some use it as a form of currency.

I've argued this subject in GD from the other point of view before, that women can't simply view their partner in a merely physical way, and that if there is a lot of emotional drama or lack or emotions/care/support/attention, then the attraction will probably erode after some time, no matter how healthy their libido might be initially.

Oh shit.

Holy typo. I meant it never really changed.

you wasted like 10 minutes of my life!!!