BklynBabe said:

is it Jacob's Ladder level of mindfuckery, or Vanilla Sky?

See the original Vanilla Sky. Not the crap with Tom in it. And I love Jacob's Ladder. Especially the James Brown/party scene.

noimageatall said:

BklynBabe said:

is it Jacob's Ladder level of mindfuckery, or Vanilla Sky?

See the original Vanilla Sky. Not the crap with Tom in it. And I love Jacob's Ladder. Especially the James Brown/party scene.

loooove that movie!! and scene!!!

I don't know what I liked more... the overall weirdness or the fact that I was trippin' balls... [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid]

RenHoek said:

noimageatall said:

See the original Vanilla Sky. Not the crap with Tom in it. And I love Jacob's Ladder. Especially the James Brown/party scene.

loooove that movie!! and scene!!!

I don't know what I liked more... the overall weirdness or the fact that I was trippin' balls... [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid]

I don't think I could watch that movie on anything. I'd probably be hiding in the corner sobbing.

noimageatall said:

RenHoek said:

loooove that movie!! and scene!!!

I don't know what I liked more... the overall weirdness or the fact that I was trippin' balls... [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid]

I don't think I could watch that movie on anything. I'd probably be hiding in the corner sobbing.

that weird trippy head-shake effect... yo, that shit still effects me sometimes...

Interesting stuff here!

RenHoek said:

noimageatall said:

I don't think I could watch that movie on anything. I'd probably be hiding in the corner sobbing.

that weird trippy head-shake effect... yo, that shit still effects me sometimes...

Interesting stuff here!

That whole scene still freaks me out. I want to see the deleted scenes.

RenHoek said:

noimageatall said:

I don't think I could watch that movie on anything. I'd probably be hiding in the corner sobbing.

that weird trippy head-shake effect... yo, that shit still effects me sometimes...

Interesting stuff here!

Damn...that was kinda hot.

KidaDynamite said:

RenHoek said:

that weird trippy head-shake effect... yo, that shit still effects me sometimes...

Interesting stuff here!

Damn...that was kinda hot.

wanna dance...

RenHoek said:

KidaDynamite said:

Damn...that was kinda hot.

wanna dance...

Sure, but I don't want you sticking any horns through my head.

Damn, why do I wanna look at tentacle porn right now?

I really enjoyed Inception. It felt like I was watching a bunch of my favourite movies melted together (eg Matrix, What Dreams May Come, Shutter Island, Vanilla Sky, The Fountain etc) and then Nolan adding his own brand of mind fuckery. I heard a few people moaning that they didn't like the lack of a 'twist ending' but I really don't think that's a good enough reason to dislike a film.

I don't agree that the action scenes were randomly thrown together, I thought every little set piece is fully justified and adds something to the plot. You never get the feeling he's just showing off.

I also love how it's plot, although quite intricate, is very clearly explained, it doesn't try to deliberately try to loose you in the plot like some plot-heavy movies, instead allowing you to just loose yourself in the world Nolan and co have created.

The cast are brilliant, especially Tom Hardy and Cillian Murphy. Haven't seen Cillian do the emotional, vulnerable thing before so that was interesting. Even Leo is great, although it does feel like he just brought in his character from Shutter Island.

So, in short, I loved it

Saw it last night. It was simply amazing. Chris Nolan is a absolute genius. Joseph Gordon-Levitt was amazing. Nothing felt out of place. At first I questioned the pace of everything. But then when you sit back and think of what they were working with. It makes sense.

I loved it. It was epic.

AshK said:

I really enjoyed Inception. It felt like I was watching a bunch of my favourite movies melted together (eg Matrix, What Dreams May Come, Shutter Island, Vanilla Sky, The Fountain etc) and then Nolan adding his own brand of mind fuckery. I heard a few people moaning that they didn't like the lack of a 'twist ending' but I really don't think that's a good enough reason to dislike a film.

I don't agree that the action scenes were randomly thrown together, I thought every little set piece is fully justified and adds something to the plot. You never get the feeling he's just showing off.

I also love how it's plot, although quite intricate, is very clearly explained, it doesn't try to deliberately try to loose you in the plot like some plot-heavy movies, instead allowing you to just loose yourself in the world Nolan and co have created.

The cast are brilliant, especially Tom Hardy and Cillian Murphy. Haven't seen Cillian do the emotional, vulnerable thing before so that was interesting. Even Leo is great, although it does feel like he just brought in his character from Shutter Island.

So, in short, I loved it

Hi AshK

I guess it doesn't suprise me that I'm in the minority on this one (at least so far). I'm a real pain in the arse when it comes to expectations.

The concept and potential for mindfuckery is what made me want to go to the theatre to see this one.

But I don't expect the focus of the movie to be on the dream within the dream. I expect that to be the vehicle by which we get to learn about the people and their interaction with it. Who are these people and how does this medium affect them? Instead everyone is focused on the least interesting aspect to me, what is real and what isn't?

MINI - PLOT REVEALS BELOW

When you get to the end of the movie and you ask yourself - is it a good thing for Cillian Murphy's character to change his mind and break up the monopoly? Or should he leave it as is? Do I care? Why should I be rooting for Ken Watanabe's character? Am I? Do I want Leo to succeed or fail? Is the mission a worthy cause or not? Isn't that the story here?

Why is no one asking those questions? Why is every reviewer talking about the mind fuck of reality vs. fiction and nothing more? That's just the gimmick. There's still a story to tell isn't there?

I personally find that most people I have talked to about this have stopped at the coolness of the - "Wow this had four full layers of dreaming and it made you contemplate what was real and what wasn't" facet of the movie without really focusing on the content.

If someone told you the end was a dream or the end was real - does it really matter when the storyboard is still the same? From minute 42 to minute 150 there had to be about 75 perfectly orchestrated gun battles.

I thought these were dreams. Where the hell was Porky Pig? Grrrr......

Sorry to babble on, again I know I'm in the minority and that's OK. I know I tend to overthink these things, but I so rarely go the theatre anymore and my expectations were very high for this one as I loved Memento and this one was actually his own story again.

Fenwick said:

Hi AshK

I guess it doesn't suprise me that I'm in the minority on this one (at least so far). I'm a real pain in the arse when it comes to expectations.

The concept and potential for mindfuckery is what made me want to go to the theatre to see this one.

But I don't expect the focus of the movie to be on the dream within the dream. I expect that to be the vehicle by which we get to learn about the people and their interaction with it. Who are these people and how does this medium affect them? Instead everyone is focused on the least interesting aspect to me, what is real and what isn't?

MINI - PLOT REVEALS BELOW

When you get to the end of the movie and you ask yourself - is it a good thing for Cillian Murphy's character to change his mind and break up the monopoly? Or should he leave it as is? Do I care? Why should I be rooting for Ken Watanabe's character? Am I? Do I want Leo to succeed or fail? Is the mission a worthy cause or not? Isn't that the story here?

Why is no one asking those questions? Why is every reviewer talking about the mind fuck of reality vs. fiction and nothing more? That's just the gimmick. There's still a story to tell isn't there?

I personally find that most people I have talked to about this have stopped at the coolness of the - "Wow this had four full layers of dreaming and it made you contemplate what was real and what wasn't" facet of the movie without really focusing on the content.

If someone told you the end was a dream or the end was real - does it really matter when the storyboard is still the same? From minute 42 to minute 150 there had to be about 75 perfectly orchestrated gun battles.

I thought these were dreams. Where the hell was Porky Pig? Grrrr......

Sorry to babble on, again I know I'm in the minority and that's OK. I know I tend to overthink these things, but I so rarely go the theatre anymore and my expectations were very high for this one as I loved Memento and this one was actually his own story again.

No I understand what you mean, I also think it would have been more interesting if it was more character driven because without that it ends up being the case that you don't really care about what's going to happen to the characters but more about what the characters are getting up to. I think that might sound quite circular...the sub-plot with Leo's wife helps add in some emotional ties to the film though. I think the last few shots were unecessary, I guess it's just to please the people who were dying for a twist.

I think the point of the movie was to leave those questions open. The movie is not that complex whilst you're watching it, it all makes perfect sense. it's only when I tried to explain it to someone else that I realised how elaborate it was. To me, that's good story telling because through out the fiilm I didn't stop and think 'WTF!?!', I think movies that try to deliberatley loose you are kinda lazy. I love that Nolan is very upfront with what he's doing, at one point Ellen Page sums up most of the plot on a few sentances. That's pretty brave for a movie which is mostly dependent on it's plot to keep you interested.

noimageatall said:

KidaDynamite said:

NO. I've been trying to get my hands on that movie but failed terribly.

I've seen Disco Pigs and Watching The Detectives, though. He's such a spectacular actor.

http://www.free-tv-video-...pluto.html

grrrr link edit

[Edited 7/18/10 18:41pm]

How did I miss this?

THANK YOU!

KidaDynamite said:

noimageatall said:

http://www.free-tv-video-...pluto.html

grrrr link edit

[Edited 7/18/10 18:41pm]

How did I miss this?

THANK YOU!

I just saw it.

It's pretty good.

I thought the dialogue that kind of spoon feeds the concept to the audience in the beginning of the movie was unnecessary, but then again---I've seen the matrix, so I've been softened up to the concept of virtual realities within the mind in cinema.

Overall, it's a pretty good film. The action sequences are a bit excessive, but then again---it's a summer movie. ....from hollywood.

Tom Hardy

his mouth

Great special effects and a decent story BUT it was no Blade Runner and certainly no Matrix!

In fact I dozed off for a second during a slow part in the middle of the film. The end loked like a set up for a sequal. Props to the director though for NOT making it in 3D!

Great special effects and a decent story BUT it was no Blade Runner and certainly no Matrix!

In fact I dozed off for a second during a slow part in the middle of the film. The end loked like a set up for a sequal. Props to the director though for NOT making it in 3D!

joseph8 said:

it's not getting great reviews, but, gonna see it this weekend

Excellent film finally saw it!, Everyone in my film school was buzzing about this movie like crazy and so naturally i wanted to see it best film of the year hand's down!

And a very original plot and the acting was fantastic the whole movie was just great i wish they made great movies like this more often i mean this is not one to see once i can't say enough good thing's about this!

Ellen Paige was beautiful and she's now one of my favorite actress of this generation, Leo is one of the best leading men out there plain & simple, And Joseph is handsome and becoming a strong force in Hollywood now can't wait to see his next projects=]

XxAxX said:

it's not getting great reviews, but, gonna see it this weekend

Most of the reviews i read including from the king of critics Roger Ebert where 4 stars

There where some that where kind of eh i will admit

only a few where bad or so so and they usually said good thing's about the film and nit picked small stuff.

It has 84 percent on Rotten Tomatoes which is very good i think it deserves an A but an 84 is really good

There's a bunch of blogs out there already explaining it all if anyone is unclear on stuff. Even IMDB's question section is extensive

http://wegotthiscovered.com/2010/07/20/dream-a-little-bigger-a-guide-to-understanding-inception/

http://community.livejournal.com/inceptionfilm/1700.html

I don't get why people are so sensitive about hyped movies - they either go in expecting the cinema to melt from sheer awesome then wonder why they're dissappointed or avoid it completely just because people get excited about it.

How about deciding for yourself instead of listening to everyone else?

Anyway, I loved it. I think this overly critical, super quick judgmental generation are the only ones who could manage to talk an achievement like this down.

The ending is ambiguous but I tend to think the totem fell.

purplesweat said:

I don't get why people are so sensitive about hyped movies - they either go in expecting the cinema to melt from sheer awesome then wonder why they're dissappointed or avoid it completely just because people get excited about it.

How about deciding for yourself instead of listening to everyone else?

Anyway, I loved it. I think this overly critical, super quick judgmental generation are the only ones who could manage to talk an achievement like this down.

Hi Purplesweat

I'm not trying to start a fight, but I don't understand where any of this is coming from in light of this thread.

I think I'm the only person on here that didn't like it. The critics are raving about it and it's got about an 85% approval rating from the fans on sites that register that stuff, so who is being "super quick and judgmental"? I am clearly in the VAST minority here.

The movie was OK, but didn't nearly have enough plot for my taste. That doesn't make me right or anyone else wrong. I just like to have characters in my movies. Again, all everyone is talking about is the theories behind what's real and what's not. Your two links further that point.

Twists and turns don't mean shiite to me if I don't care who is pulling the strings. That's plays more like watching a magic act than watching a really good story unfold.

Again, not trying to argue, I just don't understand where your thoughts are coming from when everyone else has said they really liked it and I gave clear reasons as to why I didn't.

purplesweat said:

Gunsnhalen said:

XxAxX said:

it's not getting great reviews, but, gonna see it this weekend

Most of the reviews i read including from the king of critics Roger Ebert where 4 stars

There where some that where kind of eh i will admit

only a few where bad or so so and they usually said good thing's about the film and nit picked small stuff.

It has 84 percent on Rotten Tomatoes which is very good i think it deserves an A but an 84 is really good

Is it just me or has Ebert gotten more and more gracious with his reviews over the last 10 years.

I noticed about 10 years ago that he doesn't seem to judge very harshly compared to some of the others (Los Angeles Times Kenneth Turin for one---who I oddly almost always agree with).

I like Ebert though.

TheVoid said:

Is it just me or has Ebert gotten more and more gracious with his reviews over the last 10 years.

I noticed about 10 years ago that he doesn't seem to judge very harshly compared to some of the others (Los Angeles Times Kenneth Turin for one---who I oddly almost always agree with).

I like Ebert though.

No not just you at all- I have absolutely noticed that as well. Heck he and Siskel and he and Roeper(sp) used to really get into it with each other back in the day. They took that shit personally.

Now he seems full of platitudes for everything. Hard not to like him now with what's he's been through and how he's handling it. Total class act. But I liked him better as a critic when he was harder on films.

TheVoid said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Most of the reviews i read including from the king of critics Roger Ebert where 4 stars

There where some that where kind of eh i will admit

only a few where bad or so so and they usually said good thing's about the film and nit picked small stuff.

It has 84 percent on Rotten Tomatoes which is very good i think it deserves an A but an 84 is really good

Is it just me or has Ebert gotten more and more gracious with his reviews over the last 10 years.

I noticed about 10 years ago that he doesn't seem to judge very harshly compared to some of the others (Los Angeles Times Kenneth Turin for one---who I oddly almost always agree with).

I like Ebert though.

He's a little more nice true but he does rarely give 4 stars so i still see those as very good=]

But i rember Siskel now i was only ten when he passed away but watching some old siskel and eberts from the 80's to late 90's he was very nice to alot of movies that where so so and Ebert would hate lol