Ok i am going to edit this in a simple way so no one get's the wrong ideas=]

What is everyones opinions on the Illuminati stuff? i am not big into it but people here in L.A are like ecstatic about this stuff it's driving me nuts they try to convince me there's symbolism in everything.

What is ever ones opinions

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even if there is an Illuminati conspiracy going on for millenia, obviously the lil sheeple of this planet are not going to do anything about it, so what's the point? Why do you care? Hell, if the KKK can be all bold and out there about their agenda, why make up issues with Freemasons, Illuminati, and whatnot.

the world is not going to end in 2012, no matter how hard I wish it would....

BklynBabe said:

even if there is an Illuminati conspiracy going on for millenia, obviously the lil sheeple of this planet are not going to do anything about it, so what's the point? Why do you care? Hell, if the KKK can be all bold and out there about their agenda, why make up issues with Freemasons, Illuminati, and whatnot.

the world is not going to end in 2012, no matter how hard I wish it would....

*please, oh please, oh please*

SHOCKADELICA1 said:

BklynBabe said:

even if there is an Illuminati conspiracy going on for millenia, obviously the lil sheeple of this planet are not going to do anything about it, so what's the point? Why do you care? Hell, if the KKK can be all bold and out there about their agenda, why make up issues with Freemasons, Illuminati, and whatnot.

the world is not going to end in 2012, no matter how hard I wish it would....

*please, oh please, oh please*

Of all the batshit crazy stuff I've read on the org, that has to be the batshit craziest.

One of my best friends turns 50 on 12/21/2012.

One way or another, his party is going to be EPIC.

Oh, and Bruce Springsteen being a part of the Illuminati?

x 328,409

RodeoSchro said:

Oh, and Bruce Springsteen being a part of the Illuminati?

x 328,409

don't you know Bruce Springsteen is the devil? :devil:

Genesia said:

SHOCKADELICA1 said:

*please, oh please, oh please*

Of all the batshit crazy stuff I've read on the org, that has to be the batshit craziest.

Acrylic said:

Genesia said:

Of all the batshit crazy stuff I've read on the org, that has to be the batshit craziest.

love it

Gunsnhalen said:

But i must for some reasons.

This is an Illuminati thing ah ah don't freakout i am not here trying to preach about 2012 or anything but simply just a little annoyance currently lol

Ok now being in film school and wanting to get in the industry i realize there's tons of bad dealing with in the entertainment industry.

Idk about the Illuminati or not it's everyone pinions but i swear every artist they are trying hard to find Illuminati symbols in them i will admit some of these with some artist's it's creepy and very weird, but it's hard for me to like an artist without someone judging me because they are an ''Illuminati satan worshipping product''

I Mean fucking A I Was jamming to Ray Charles yesterday and my friend who' really into the Illuminati stuff told me he think's ray charles was a satanist and evil wtf????

I Hear that about Prince, Bob Dylan, led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Joni Mitchell, Madonna, Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, Howling Wolf, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Lenny Kravitz, The Cure, White Stripes, Aretha Franklin, Tina Turner, R.E.M, Depeche Mode, Albert King.

Is there an artist i like who aren't part of it?

Some people judge me simply cause i like a band and they are part of the Illuminati foundation i find this insane that people are starting to judge me and other people because of who we listen to thinking we are ''slaves'' or w/e they believe idk lol

but really i believe somethign will happen 2012 idk about the end of the world stuff but the planets will align so something will idk what thought but the apocalypse???? idk

It's just crazy how almost anywhere i go someone has to point out Illuminati symbolism everywhere and i mean some people look to hard not every artist is ''evil'' and not every street corner has devil worshiping symbols lol

Sorry had to rant a bit

The few I know of so far:

Lauryn Hill

Kylie Minogue (?)

Justin Bieber

Public Enemy (Flavor Flav might still be questionable)

Sometimes, I wonder the same thing as you do Gunsnhalen. I can only tell you for a FACT that symbolism is everywhere. From the number of artists that have thrown up The Baphomet sign ( ) to the number of albums that have used the pyramid as part of the cover design, the clues are everywhere.

I even see the clues in a coffee shop!

[img:$uid]http://www.dogpile.com/clickserver/_iceUrlFlag=1?rawURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uky.edu%2F~rjpowe0%2Fjou497%2Fpages%2Fassignments%2Fai_02%2Fstarbucks.gif&0=&1=0&4=76.125.118.4&5=76.125.118.4&9=18a158c12e7a4226a0b35a57eb23cb01&10=1&11=info.dogpl&13=search&14=372380&15=main-title&17=3&18=2&19=0&20=0&21=3&22=uRYDYJhWx5c%3D&23=0&40=NylmRqBhqUdFDNWQXwF5Pg%3D%3D&_IceUrl=true[/img:$uid]

Notice THIS^ siren wearing a crown on her head. A pentagram (also an occult symbol associate with The Baphomet & Remphan) is on that crown.

is she holding up 2 fish tails?

TonyVanDam said:

I even see the clues in a coffee shop!

[img:$uid]http://www.dogpile.com/clickserver/_iceUrlFlag=1?rawURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uky.edu%2F~rjpowe0%2Fjou497%2Fpages%2Fassignments%2Fai_02%2Fstarbucks.gif&0=&1=0&4=76.125.118.4&5=76.125.118.4&9=18a158c12e7a4226a0b35a57eb23cb01&10=1&11=info.dogpl&13=search&14=372380&15=main-title&17=3&18=2&19=0&20=0&21=3&22=uRYDYJhWx5c%3D&23=0&40=NylmRqBhqUdFDNWQXwF5Pg%3D%3D&_IceUrl=true[/img:$uid]

Notice THIS^ siren wearing a crown on her head. A pentagram (also an occult symbol associate with The Baphomet & Remphan) is on that crown.

I just want to point out to some people who may not know, Pagans/Wiccans/Witches are not associated with the "Baphomet" or the "Pentagram" (upside down Pentacle). The star in the photograph provided is not a "Pentagram" because it isn't upside within a circle. The term "Occult" needs to be used VERY lightly when refering to Satanism, because Satanism need not be confused with Paganism, which is also sometimes classified under the term "Occult".

This isn't directed towards you, Tony, just a general post.

ZombieKitten said:

is she holding up 2 fish tails?

[img:$uid]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e9/Sbux_logo_pre_1987.gif[/img:$uid]

THIS^ is Starbuck's original logo.

ZombieKitten said:

is she holding up 2 fish tails?

Yes, the picture is of a two-tailed Mermaid, often called a Siren or a Melusine.

[Edited 7/15/10 17:57pm]

what is the significance behind having 2 tails? I've never realised this before! Is it so she can properly seduce with what I assume would be human genitalia in between them? As opposed to the poor sexless mermaid? or worse, the reverse mermaid

Acrylic said:

TonyVanDam said:

I even see the clues in a coffee shop!

[img:$uid]http://www.dogpile.com/clickserver/_iceUrlFlag=1?rawURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uky.edu%2F~rjpowe0%2Fjou497%2Fpages%2Fassignments%2Fai_02%2Fstarbucks.gif&0=&1=0&4=76.125.118.4&5=76.125.118.4&9=18a158c12e7a4226a0b35a57eb23cb01&10=1&11=info.dogpl&13=search&14=372380&15=main-title&17=3&18=2&19=0&20=0&21=3&22=uRYDYJhWx5c%3D&23=0&40=NylmRqBhqUdFDNWQXwF5Pg%3D%3D&_IceUrl=true[/img:$uid]

Notice THIS^ siren wearing a crown on her head. A pentagram (also an occult symbol associate with The Baphomet & Remphan) is on that crown.

I just want to point out to some people who may not know, Pagans/Wiccans/Witches are not associated with the "Baphomet" or the "Pentagram" (upside down Pentacle). The star in the photograph provided is not a "Pentagram" because it isn't upside within a circle. The term "Occult" needs to be used VERY lightly when refering to Satanism, because Satanism need not be confused with Paganism, which is also sometimes classified under the term "Occult".

This isn't directed towards you, Tony, just a general post.

A circle is nothing more than a symbol to "contain" something.

[img:$uid]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Pentagram_green.svg/200px-Pentagram_green.svg.png[/img:$uid]

But the real issue is that the pentagram is still drawn perfectly first BEFORE a person colored in the line to make this "star' look solid (EXAMPLES: like the "stars" on the USA flags, the "star" logo of the Dallas Cowboys) and place it in whatever direction that he/she wants it. Despite all of that, none of these upgrades exclude the fact that the pentagram has an earlier origin that is far older than Starbucks Coffee, pagans, OR "christians".

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I better not say anything else. We all know how some people in orgville get so digusted when we have discussions like this.

[Edited 7/15/10 18:44pm]

Well, I think the whole thread is bullshit, and take not a drop of it seriously.

I'm only remarking for some people who may not know to differentiate between Satanism and Paganism, their symbols, and basis of the "Baphomet". Tis' all.

ZombieKitten said:

what is the significance behind having 2 tails? I've never realised this before! Is it so she can properly seduce with what I assume would be human genitalia in between them? As opposed to the poor sexless mermaid? or worse, the reverse mermaid

But then again, why in hell would any man OR woman would have sexual relations with a female creature (siren, mermaid, whatever) that smell like fish?!?

That poor lady should have been given this advice from her mother:

some people are olfactorially challenged, at least they have that going for them

You guys do realize i am criticizing the people telling me this stuff i don't believe half the shit they say maybe i wrote it weird but i do not believe the artists i mentioned to be part of the illuminati it's just what people say to me and i'm like wtf??? why do u say every artist i like is a devil worshiping cult activist it's fucking stupid lol

remind me what happened when illuminati started becoming popular...some movie?? or song....

oh, wait, is that that one eyed shyt with the signals???... smh mufukkers... is georgemichael one???

myfavorite said:

oh, wait, is that that one eyed shyt with the signals???... smh mufukkers... is georgemichael one???

Girl i am sure someone will convince you he is lol it's ridiculous

Seriously i don't buy into alot of that b.s my whole rant was about like there are people here in L.A actually judging me because of what i listen to because i am one of the one's being ''controlled'' & ''manipulated'' or w/e

I mean Springsteen & Ray Charles???? i mean come on man lol

I don't understand any of it. What's the point in all of it? Are they trying to get me to buy something?

I'm pretty sure the band Muse isn't apart of it.

TonyVanDam said:

[img:$uid]http://www.dogpile.com/clickserver/_iceUrlFlag=1?rawURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uky.edu%2F~rjpowe0%2Fjou497%2Fpages%2Fassignments%2Fai_02%2Fstarbucks.gif&0=&1=0&4=76.125.118.4&5=76.125.118.4&9=18a158c12e7a4226a0b35a57eb23cb01&10=1&11=info.dogpl&13=search&14=372380&15=main-title&17=3&18=2&19=0&20=0&21=3&22=uRYDYJhWx5c%3D&23=0&40=NylmRqBhqUdFDNWQXwF5Pg%3D%3D&_IceUrl=true[/img:$uid]

Notice THIS^ siren wearing a crown on her head. A pentagram (also an occult symbol associate with The Baphomet & Remphan) is on that crown.

Maybe there's a star...because the place is called Starbucks!

Genesia said:

TonyVanDam said:

[img:$uid]http://www.dogpile.com/clickserver/_iceUrlFlag=1?rawURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uky.edu%2F~rjpowe0%2Fjou497%2Fpages%2Fassignments%2Fai_02%2Fstarbucks.gif&0=&1=0&4=76.125.118.4&5=76.125.118.4&9=18a158c12e7a4226a0b35a57eb23cb01&10=1&11=info.dogpl&13=search&14=372380&15=main-title&17=3&18=2&19=0&20=0&21=3&22=uRYDYJhWx5c%3D&23=0&40=NylmRqBhqUdFDNWQXwF5Pg%3D%3D&_IceUrl=true[/img:$uid]

Notice THIS^ siren wearing a crown on her head. A pentagram (also an occult symbol associate with The Baphomet & Remphan) is on that crown.

Maybe there's a star...because the place is called Starbucks!

Is it me, or do people read WAY to much into things...

tinaz said:

Is it me, or do people read WAY to much into things...

They have to blame someone for their miserable lives.

Genesia said:

TonyVanDam said:

[img:$uid]http://www.dogpile.com/clickserver/_iceUrlFlag=1?rawURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uky.edu%2F~rjpowe0%2Fjou497%2Fpages%2Fassignments%2Fai_02%2Fstarbucks.gif&0=&1=0&4=76.125.118.4&5=76.125.118.4&9=18a158c12e7a4226a0b35a57eb23cb01&10=1&11=info.dogpl&13=search&14=372380&15=main-title&17=3&18=2&19=0&20=0&21=3&22=uRYDYJhWx5c%3D&23=0&40=NylmRqBhqUdFDNWQXwF5Pg%3D%3D&_IceUrl=true[/img:$uid]

Notice THIS^ siren wearing a crown on her head. A pentagram (also an occult symbol associate with The Baphomet & Remphan) is on that crown.

Maybe there's a star...because the place is called Starbucks!

OK, then why the logo is a siren instead of a buck?!?

[img:$uid]http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/slideshows/585/slideshow_58559/display_image.jpg[/img:$uid]

See there! What's your explaination now?!?