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Thread started 07/09/10 2:47pm

noimageatall

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Mother tries to flush newborn down plane toilet

http://www.telegraph.co.u...oilet.html

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Indian mum 'tries to flush newborn down plane toilet'

An Indian woman gave birth to a baby in the lavatory of an international passenger plane and tried to dispose of it down the toilet, media reports in New Delhi said on Thursday.

The infant was found stuck in the toilet after the plane landed in Amritsar, northern India, and was rushed to hospital still attached to the toilet bowl, police and doctors told the Press Trust of India news agency.

HP Singh, a doctor at the Escorts Hospital near the airport, said that a team of surgeons used a saw cutter to remove the newborn's head from the toilet.

The 22-year-old mother was reported to have left the plane when it landed, and was later arrested in the airport after the cabin crew on the Turkmenistan Airlines flight found the baby.


Doctors at the hospital said the infant was in a critical condition.

Newspapers reported the mother was an unmarried medical student returning home after completing a degree abroad.

The origin of the flight was unclear, though the Indian Express said it had taken off from the city of Ashgabat in Turkmenistan.

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Reply #1 posted 07/09/10 3:06pm

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I want to slap this bitch very badly.... disbelief

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Reply #2 posted 07/09/10 3:08pm

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BklynBabe said:

I want to slap this bitch very badly.... disbelief

I will hold her for you...

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Reply #3 posted 07/09/10 3:10pm

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I'm literally speechless. And that says a lot. sad

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Reply #4 posted 07/09/10 3:14pm

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And a MEDICAL student?????? eek WTF??? I hope she gets life or worse.

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Reply #5 posted 07/09/10 3:16pm

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Just completely sad.

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I'm firmly planted in denial
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Reply #6 posted 07/09/10 3:17pm

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noimageatall said:

And a MEDICAL student?????? eek WTF??? I hope she gets life or worse.

Probably didnt want to ruin her career mad mad pissed mad mad

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Reply #7 posted 07/09/10 3:19pm

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tinaz said:

noimageatall said:

And a MEDICAL student?????? eek WTF??? I hope she gets life or worse.

Probably didnt want to ruin her career mad mad pissed mad mad

Damn, many women get a degree and have a career WHILE raising children. Some people who go to college can be total fucking idiots.

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Reply #8 posted 07/09/10 3:22pm

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Sad sigh

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Reply #9 posted 07/09/10 3:27pm

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How anyone would look down at something that THEY gave birth to, something that THEY carried for months, and want to cause harm to it, is beyond me. disbelief

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Reply #10 posted 07/09/10 4:32pm

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Acrylic said:

How anyone would look down at something that THEY gave birth to, something that THEY carried for months, and want to cause harm to it, is beyond me. disbelief

dead..

inside.

and out.

if you all need help holding her lil ass..

let me know

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Reply #11 posted 07/09/10 4:40pm

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she was obviously at her wits end

imagine feeling it's your only option

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Reply #12 posted 07/09/10 4:41pm

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ZombieKitten said:

she was obviously at her wits end

imagine feeling it's your only option

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It's what you make it.
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Reply #13 posted 07/09/10 4:45pm

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PunkMistress said:

ZombieKitten said:

she was obviously at her wits end

imagine feeling it's your only option

sad

who could be in their right mind, really - for exactly the reasons Acrylic posted, normally a mother could NEVER do that. There is more to it I'm sure.

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Reply #14 posted 07/09/10 5:01pm

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ZombieKitten said:

PunkMistress said:

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who could be in their right mind, really - for exactly the reasons Acrylic posted, normally a mother could NEVER do that. There is more to it I'm sure.

like forced marriage and all that crap.

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Reply #15 posted 07/09/10 5:05pm

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ZombieKitten said:

she was obviously at her wits end

imagine feeling it's your only option

you can do many thngs that dont invovle trying to kill a baby mad

I swear to God I want to take HER head and shove it down a toilet bowl and she can tell me how she likes that option!!!!!

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Reply #16 posted 07/09/10 5:38pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ZombieKitten said:

who could be in their right mind, really - for exactly the reasons Acrylic posted, normally a mother could NEVER do that. There is more to it I'm sure.

like forced marriage and all that crap.

how about her parents paid tens of thousands to send their kid overseas to make them proud and she shames them like this? SHAMES the family!!! A lifetime of shame comes of this. Not that doing this has done anything but increase the shame she brings on her family. confused

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Reply #17 posted 07/09/10 5:39pm

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BklynBabe said:

ZombieKitten said:

she was obviously at her wits end

imagine feeling it's your only option

you can do many thngs that dont invovle trying to kill a baby mad

I swear to God I want to take HER head and shove it down a toilet bowl and she can tell me how she likes that option!!!!!

don't worry, when she gets home she'll probably have kerosene thrown on her and set alight anyway. Hopefully being in jail will give her some reprieve. Although what she really needs is psychiatric care.

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Reply #18 posted 07/09/10 6:05pm

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And then all through the cabin was heard...

"Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. Please fasten your seatbelts and leave them that way until you are informed it's acceptable to do otherwise. We will be opening the rear cabin door in order to get rid of some dead weight. This will take a moment. We apologize for the inconvenience."

I hate kids. Anybody who knows me will tell you that I HATE kids. Because of that I made a decision to NOT HAVE ANY! But if I had one I would do everything in my power to love them passionately until the day I died. This person... I don't know... like John, I'm pretty much beyond words. She certainly doesn't deserve to have any contact with that child for the rest of her natural life. Unfortunately this act is so extreme that she'll probably be able to claim some form of insanity. Siiiigh. People suck.

[Edited 7/9/10 18:12pm]

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Reply #19 posted 07/09/10 6:21pm

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And let me be clear I'm talkin' about them tossin' the "mother" from the plane. I don't want anybody gettin' all in a bunch of throwin' stuff at me. lol

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Reply #20 posted 07/09/10 6:50pm

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ZombieKitten said:

BklynBabe said:

you can do many thngs that dont invovle trying to kill a baby mad

I swear to God I want to take HER head and shove it down a toilet bowl and she can tell me how she likes that option!!!!!

don't worry, when she gets home she'll probably have kerosene thrown on her and set alight anyway. Hopefully being in jail will give her some reprieve. Although what she really needs is psychiatric care.

If her parents found out that she is not a virgin ....... then she is not marriage material, in that culture? In China and India etc........ boys are "prized" and girls are a burden.

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Reply #21 posted 07/09/10 6:55pm

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All that stuff about cultural differences is true. No argument there. However...

The 22-year-old mother


Newspapers reported the mother was an unmarried medical student returning home after completing a degree abroad.

That's WAY PAST the point when those kind of things would usually be in affect. AND she had been allowed to reach 22 without being married, study medicine, as well as go abroad. So I'm not sure I can get behind those reasons applying to this case. If they do, I would certainly change my extreme stance regarding her punishment. But I'm just not feelin' it on this one.

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Reply #22 posted 07/09/10 6:56pm

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BklynBabe said:

I want to slap this bitch very badly.... disbelief

Me too. WTF is wrong with her????? disbelief

RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #23 posted 07/09/10 6:58pm

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Acrylic said:

How anyone would look down at something that THEY gave birth to, something that THEY carried for months, and want to cause harm to it, is beyond me. disbelief

Agreed. Especially a freakin medical student!!! disbelief disbelief

RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #24 posted 07/09/10 7:06pm

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sad I hope the baby is going to be okay.

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Reply #25 posted 07/09/10 7:09pm

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EmeraldSkies said:

disbelief

sad I hope the baby is going to be okay.

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Reply #26 posted 07/09/10 10:49pm

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Cerebus said:

All that stuff about cultural differences is true. No argument there. However...

The 22-year-old mother


Newspapers reported the mother was an unmarried medical student returning home after completing a degree abroad.

That's WAY PAST the point when those kind of things would usually be in affect. AND she had been allowed to reach 22 without being married, study medicine, as well as go abroad. So I'm not sure I can get behind those reasons applying to this case. If they do, I would certainly change my extreme stance regarding her punishment. But I'm just not feelin' it on this one.

not true, at 22, with a career most women in that culture are expected to marry, be virgin brides and some are already involved in arrangements, the marriages will wait until the degrees are obtained. Not to make any excuses for her but just being around that culture for a short time exposed me to the tremendous pressure for success and the fear of dishonor. Again I am not making excuses for her, but I do understand what could drive her to such an inhuman act.

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Reply #27 posted 07/09/10 11:00pm

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butterfli25 said:

Cerebus said:

All that stuff about cultural differences is true. No argument there. However...

The 22-year-old mother


Newspapers reported the mother was an unmarried medical student returning home after completing a degree abroad.

That's WAY PAST the point when those kind of things would usually be in affect. AND she had been allowed to reach 22 without being married, study medicine, as well as go abroad. So I'm not sure I can get behind those reasons applying to this case. If they do, I would certainly change my extreme stance regarding her punishment. But I'm just not feelin' it on this one.

not true, at 22, with a career most women in that culture are expected to marry, be virgin brides and some are already involved in arrangements, the marriages will wait until the degrees are obtained. Not to make any excuses for her but just being around that culture for a short time exposed me to the tremendous pressure for success and the fear of dishonor. Again I am not making excuses for her, but I do understand what could drive her to such an inhuman act.

I'm aware that the marraiges are arranged at a very early age. Totally agree with you there. But to my understanding, being allowed to go to school to get a degree and ESPECIALLY going overseas would be considered very tolerant. And not being married at 22 is old pretty old in Indian and Arabic cultures. Which wouldn't make you think she had a more strict, traditionalist family. Either way, definitely no excuses. The whole thing is just ugly no matter what her reasoning was/is.

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Reply #28 posted 07/09/10 11:32pm

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Newborn girls are often killed in India. the male-female ratio of the population in India is somewhere around 10:9.

Despite the shocking manner of attempting to dispose the baby it shouldn't really make too much difference in the end. If about 0.5-1 million kids get killed per year in India by poisoning, drowning or by slitting their throats that should be probably more of a concern than this type of a news story. The difference here is just that she got caught and got reported internationally.

She might have been highly educated, but obviously such traditional views have influenced her choice. That's not to say that most people in India would support infanticide either.

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Reply #29 posted 07/09/10 11:40pm

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