TonyVanDam said:

Reel said:

Wasn't the Passion of the Christ like the highest grossing movie ever? I heard that it grossed somewhere close to 1 billion dollars. If in fact that is true. Then no...Mel does not have to "behave" anymore. He can just "unravel" himself all the way to the looney bin. Because he never has to work another day if he doesn't want to.

No, that would be Avatar.

Ok...probably so, I just remember that when the Passion came out, they threw out some Billion dollar figure and said it was the highest grossing movie. Perhaps Avatar and other's after the Passion bumped him.

Reel said:

TonyVanDam said:

Exactly. And Mel made it perfectly clear to Diane Sawyer a few years earlier that he would NEVER go there talking against his father, regardless if his father was wrong about anything or not.

I am very unfamiliar with Mel's father. Who exactly was he ?

Hutton Gibson believes that The Holocaust NEVER happen.

KoolEaze said:

Reel said:

I am very unfamiliar with Mel's father. Who exactly was he ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutton_Gibson

THAT^ too.

I believe it was reported that Mel Gibson's take of the Passion money (including dvd sales and merchandise - remember the nail pendants they sold? ) was around $600 million. That's after expenses, which came directly from his pocket. That's what I remember, though, NOT a quote. He also made money on Apocalypto (which was a much more interesting movie, imo).

KoolEaze said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutton_Gibson

Like father, like son.

TonyVanDam said:

Reel said:

I am very unfamiliar with Mel's father. Who exactly was he ?

Hutton Gibson believes that The Holocaust NEVER happen.

People who say stuff like that are being mean, hateful, and evil. They know that it happened. But they are so full of hate they spew nonsense. So you mean to tell me that that WWII happened "Just Because" huh. His father was crazy.

I love the org

Good and bad in everyone, shame he's a tit end. from Wiki:

Philanthropy

Although the Gibsons have avoided publicity about their philanthropy, they are believed to contribute a substantial amount of money to various charities, one of which is Healing the Children. According to Cris Embleton, one of the founders, the Gibsons have given millions to provide lifesaving medical treatment to needy children worldwide.^[121][122] The Gibsons have also supported the arts, funding the restoration of Renaissance artwork^[123] and giving millions of dollars to NIDA.^[124]

While filming Apocalypto in the jungles of Mexico's Veracruz state, Mel Gibson donated one million dollars to the Rotary Club^[125] to build houses for poor people in the region after some severe flooding wiped out many homes, stating:

[T]hey had a lot of floods down there. It was like Louisiana down there in the southern regions. They had severe flooding and something like a million people were displaced and washed out. I've always been of the opinion that if you go into someone else's country to make a film you don't just go in there and stomp all over the place. You bring a gift. It's like going to somebody's house. You bring them a bottle of wine or a bunch of flowers or a box of chocolates and it's the same sort of thing on a big scale when you're going in to somebody's country and they are going to help you make your film. You help them first somehow or you give them a gift or you help in what way you can. So we sort of assisted with the flood relief stuff down there.^[126]

Gibson has been involved in discreetly assisting members of the entertainment community with substance abuse problems. He worked behind the scenes to get Robert Downey, Jr. help while at Corcoran State Prison.^[127]Hole rocker Courtney Love praised Mel Gibson for saving her from a drug relapse after the Hollywood actor helped force her into rehab. Gibson sought to help the musician at a hotel in Los Angeles when he heard she was using drugs again. Love later recalled, "I kept slamming the door in (Gibson's) face. There were two drug people with me who wouldn't leave, so they couldn't get me to rehab. But because of Mel, two drug people ran off to have a cheeseburger with him because he's Mel, and then Warren [Boyd] (her drug minder) could get me into rehab."^[128]

Gibson donated $500,000 to the El Mirador Basin Project to protect the last tract of virgin rain forest in Central America and to fund archeological excavations in the "cradle of Mayan civilization."^[129] In July 2007, Gibson again visited Central America to make arrangements for donations to the indigenous population. Gibson met with Costa Rican President Oscar Arias to discuss how to "channel the funds."^[130] During the same month, Gibson pledged to give financial assistance to a Malaysian company named Green Rubber Global for a tire recycling factory located in Gallup, New Mexico.^[131] While on a business trip to Singapore in September 2007, Gibson donated to a local charity for children with chronic and terminal illnesses.^[132] In September 2008, the Gibsons donated $50,000 to the Kidney Foundation of Fiji. The check was delivered by son Milo, who stated he loved Fiji and his family was grateful to be able to help the organization.^[133]

[Edited 7/4/10 13:03pm]

Evil personified I see.

Mel Gibson gives Christians a bad name. So sad to hear garbage like this coming out of his mouth.

Reel said:

TonyVanDam said:

No, that would be Avatar.

Ok...probably so, I just remember that when the Passion came out, they threw out some Billion dollar figure and said it was the highest grossing movie. Perhaps Avatar and other's after the Passion bumped him.

That didn't sound right so I checked. To date it has grossed a little over 600m. It was only the highest grossing on the opening weekend. Of the all time highest, Passion is way down at #49.

Still not bad for such a dreadful movie.

Anyway, I never cared for the guy or his movies. He always came off like a jerk IMO.

babynoz said:

Reel said:

Ok...probably so, I just remember that when the Passion came out, they threw out some Billion dollar figure and said it was the highest grossing movie. Perhaps Avatar and other's after the Passion bumped him.

That didn't sound right so I checked. To date it has grossed a little over 600m. It was only the highest grossing on the opening weekend. Of the all time highest, Passion is way down at #49.

Still not bad for such a dreadful movie.

True to the second part. It never moved me. It's basically torture porn, like a Saw movie.

In regards to the first part, theaters take part of the box office gross and the distributor gets a piece, too. But there was also merchandise and it sold a ton of DVDs. It's odd that the number is similar to the box office total, but I'm pretty close to positive that I remember the figure Mel earned off of the movie (over a couple of years) was $600 million. You'd think that would soften ANYBODY up a bit. Not speed their steady decline into hate spewing racist.

It amazed me how many Christians saw that movie and loved it without question. I HATED that movie, it gave me nightmares and although it did frame how much Jesus suffered for us, it did very little to inspire or effect me positively. I felt that it was so violent and was a torture flick, people hyped it up for more than it was worth.

So many people were lined up to see The Passion, even this blind man with a white cane came to listen to it. I felt so bad for him because the language was Aramic, and it had all subtitles. So it's not even like he could just listen to it. That was the first time that I've seen anything like that.

Cerebus said:

babynoz said:

That didn't sound right so I checked. To date it has grossed a little over 600m. It was only the highest grossing on the opening weekend. Of the all time highest, Passion is way down at #49.

Still not bad for such a dreadful movie.

True to the second part. It never moved me. It's basically torture porn, like a Saw movie.

In regards to the first part, theaters take part of the box office gross and the distributor gets a piece, too. But there was also merchandise and it sold a ton of DVDs. It's odd that the number is similar to the box office total, but I'm pretty close to positive that I remember the figure Mel earned off of the movie (over a couple of years) was $600 million. You'd think that would soften ANYBODY up a bit. Not speed their steady decline into hate spewing racist.

Yeah, the 600m figure is the world wide box office to date.

Torture porn is a good description...it was a hot mess of a film.

Reel said:

It amazed me how many Christians saw that movie and loved it without question. I HATED that movie, it gave me nightmares and although it did frame how much Jesus suffered for us, it did very little to inspire or effect me positively. I felt that it was so violent and was a torture flick, people hyped it up for more than it was worth.

So many people were lined up to see The Passion, even this blind man with a white cane came to listen to it. I felt so bad for him because the language was Aramic, and it had all subtitles. So it's not even like he could just listen to it. That was the first time that I've seen anything like that.

It was a train wreck. I kept thinking what could anyone not familiar with christian theology get from it? There was so little framework to explain what the blood and gore was all about.

I saw it on dvd after all the hype and the only thing I could say was Mel Gibson needed his ass kicked...I guess he still does.

markpeg said:

Mel Gibson gives Christians a bad name. So sad to hear garbage like this coming out of his mouth.

Since when was Mel Gibson a representative for Christianity?

babynoz said:

Reel said:

It amazed me how many Christians saw that movie and loved it without question. I HATED that movie, it gave me nightmares and although it did frame how much Jesus suffered for us, it did very little to inspire or effect me positively. I felt that it was so violent and was a torture flick, people hyped it up for more than it was worth.

So many people were lined up to see The Passion, even this blind man with a white cane came to listen to it. I felt so bad for him because the language was Aramic, and it had all subtitles. So it's not even like he could just listen to it. That was the first time that I've seen anything like that.

It was a train wreck. I kept thinking what could anyone not familiar with christian theology get from it? There was so little framework to explain what the blood and gore was all about.

I saw it on dvd after all the hype and the only thing I could say was Mel Gibson needed his ass kicked...I guess he still does.

You got that right!

ernestsewell said:

Mel is a stupid man, and I'll never frequent one of his movies again, past, present, or future.

Rather pious coming from someone who posted this

ernestsewell said:

laurarichardson said:

It is Ebony magazine no one in the US expects anything deep from this publication. Since you are clueless about black american I will let you know that Ebony is struggling finacially and I am sure P is just trying to help them out by being on the cover or maybe doing some kind of CD give away to help them sell some mags.

As far as the failed website if P is not worried about why are you worried about. He had a business failure he has moved so should you.

First off Laura, don't be glib. You gotta snap out of that nonsense. It's making you look confused. You're not confused are you?

You have no idea what anyone knows about Black America, or not. Don't start pulling the race card, or some "you don't know the fight, man!" argument. If you don't want to be treated like a victim, stop fucking acting like one. Let's not even go any further down that road, because it'll all be the same stuff we know already.

Perhaps someone should let you know that it's no big surprise that any magazine is having financial problems these days. People are saving their money, and the luxury of a magazine subscription isn't in everyone's cards. So....DUH on that one.

I'm glad you're "sure" Prince is "just trying to help them out", but I could bet your monthly yak's hair weave allowance that you're dead wrong. Prince isn't out to doing charity work for Ebony magazine. I honestly don't know where Prince fans come up with "I bet he did ________ because ________" nonsense sometimes. Really, Laura? Helping Ebony out? REALLY? Selling one month's issue isn't going to pull the magazine out of the hole they're in, not even if Mr. Nelson is on the cover, airbrushed within an inch of his bad hip.

It's fans with blinders on, like yourself, that allow Prince to continually make bad business moves; you're his dupe - in the worst way possible. "Oh well, he tried, bless his heart. What is the next scam website I can join?"

Not that I'm painting you with the same brush as Mel, but how can you be so "sensitive and appalled" in this thread and "rude and careless" in another?

Cinnie said:

Not that I'm painting you with the same brush as Mel, but how can you be so "sensitive and appalled" in this thread and "rude and careless" in another?

But yet you are, aren't you? You're comparing me talking about weaves made of yak hair (which a lot still are, it's not all human hair) to Mel calling his wife a cunt, and hoping she gets raped by a pack of N's. Good job, man.

Damn it. WTF is wrong with you who so badly want to interpret this as the guy "wishing" or "hoping" that his wife got gang raped? It's sick. What he said was foul, disgustingly manipulative and beyond defense. But he DID NOT SAY "wish" or "hope". And quite honestly those of you who insist on interpreting it that way are seriously broken. He was trying to scare her through racist manipulation, not WISHING gang rape upon her. If that's what he meant, or wanted, I have NO DOUBT that he would have said, "I hope you get raped by a gang of...". Blech. I'm going to stop coming back to this thread. Y'all need help.

Reel said:

It amazed me how many Christians saw that movie and loved it without question. I HATED that movie, it gave me nightmares and although it did frame how much Jesus suffered for us, it did very little to inspire or effect me positively. I felt that it was so violent and was a torture flick, people hyped it up for more than it was worth.

So many people were lined up to see The Passion, even this blind man with a white cane came to listen to it. I felt so bad for him because the language was Aramic, and it had all subtitles. So it's not even like he could just listen to it. That was the first time that I've seen anything like that.

That's interesting. The response I've seen with most Christians I know was completely the opposite. But I do understand how you feel, though. Those flogging scenes, the crown of thorns ...

Still, (as a Christian myself) I agree that the movie was to some degree torture porn, but having the visual to accompany the Biblical text deepened the sense of gratitude, humility, and faith that many feel towards Jeshua for acting as sacrificial lamb. As grueling and tortuous as it was to watch in some places, you are right that for many Christians it brought home the power and intensity of His sacrifice, and gave many of us pause for life lessons and self-examination regarding simple everyday concepts such as selflessness, loyalty, envy, and rectitude. That in and of itself turned the post-viewing of The Passion into a positive for many of us, enabling us to examine these principles and make them applicable to our own lives... and hopefully striving to be just a little bit better as humans where the issues of faithfullness, greed, and dispassion are concerned.

It's the word "pack" that seems particularly to repel me. (Strange, because the rapist stereotype, and the generally abusive and misogynistic tenor of the comments are equally offensive.)

deebee said:

It's the word "pack" that seems particularly to repel me. (Strange, because the rapist stereotype, and the generally abusive and misogynistic tenor of the comments are equally offensive.)

I'm so glad you brought that up. I was going to, but didn't want to overstate the obvious in the thread. Even if he said "a pack of black guys", it would have been just as bad by using "pack", and still specifically highlighting one group of people. It seems the N word is bad enough, but when you demote it even further (as if it was possible?!) to using an animal-type term, it really shows his true colors. Folks don't just blurt out "pack of n*****s" without having it already in their head as a status quo phrase.

moussemaker said:

I think I peed a little.

ernestsewell said:

Cinnie said:

ernestsewell said:

Mel is a stupid man, and I'll never frequent one of his movies again, past, present, or future.

Rather pious coming from someone who posted this

ernestsewell said:

First off Laura, don't be glib. You gotta snap out of that nonsense. It's making you look confused. You're not confused are you?

You have no idea what anyone knows about Black America, or not. Don't start pulling the race card, or some "you don't know the fight, man!" argument. If you don't want to be treated like a victim, stop fucking acting like one. Let's not even go any further down that road, because it'll all be the same stuff we know already.

Perhaps someone should let you know that it's no big surprise that any magazine is having financial problems these days. People are saving their money, and the luxury of a magazine subscription isn't in everyone's cards. So....DUH on that one.

I'm glad you're "sure" Prince is "just trying to help them out", but I could bet your monthly yak's hair weave allowance that you're dead wrong. Prince isn't out to doing charity work for Ebony magazine. I honestly don't know where Prince fans come up with "I bet he did ________ because ________" nonsense sometimes. Really, Laura? Helping Ebony out? REALLY? Selling one month's issue isn't going to pull the magazine out of the hole they're in, not even if Mr. Nelson is on the cover, airbrushed within an inch of his bad hip.

It's fans with blinders on, like yourself, that allow Prince to continually make bad business moves; you're his dupe - in the worst way possible. "Oh well, he tried, bless his heart. What is the next scam website I can join?"

Not that I'm painting you with the same brush as Mel, but how can you be so "sensitive and appalled" in this thread and "rude and careless" in another?

But yet you are, aren't you? You're comparing me talking about weaves made of yak hair (which a lot still are, it's not all human hair) to Mel calling his wife a cunt, and hoping she gets raped by a pack of N's. Good job, man.

Nope, I thought it was rude then and it's still rude.

The relative shittiness of Mel's comments doesn't explain (or excuse) why you decided to shoehorn in that yak hair weave comment, but whatevs. Stay posting about Mel, or find a syntax error in my post so you can deflect and keep being your own hero.

ernestsewell said:

deebee said:

It's the word "pack" that seems particularly to repel me. (Strange, because the rapist stereotype, and the generally abusive and misogynistic tenor of the comments are equally offensive.)

I'm so glad you brought that up. I was going to, but didn't want to overstate the obvious in the thread. Even if he said "a pack of black guys", it would have been just as bad by using "pack", and still specifically highlighting one group of people. It seems the N word is bad enough, but when you demote it even further (as if it was possible?!) to using an animal-type term, it really shows his true colors. Folks don't just blurt out "pack of n*****s" without having it already in their head as a status quo phrase.

Yep. It's that image of packs of wild beasts, roaming around, looking to rape White women. It's a classical racist trope -- real 'old school', 'vintage' stuff. I agree that, regardless of whether it's said in an argument or not, it's not just an image coined in the heat of the moment. Nasty stuff.

So Mel's talking about a hypothetical group of dark skinned men raping a woman and everybody's problem seems to be the terms he uses to describe them.

Poor them! They would be terribly offended.

Unbelievable!

Cinnie said:

Stay posting about Mel, or find a syntax error in my post so you can deflect and keep being your own hero.

LOL Cinnie, you're really losing it, bro. Did YOU want to be my hero? I have but one hero in my life, and you will never figure that out, and that's okay. You don't have to.

But really - aren't we all supposed to be our own heroes? At the end of the day, it's only ourselves to take care of ourselves, right? So maybe being your own hero isn't so bad after all.

Now stop bogarting the thread because I mentioned WEAVES. Gheezus, pick another already.

ernestsewell said:

Cinnie said:

Stay posting about Mel, or find a syntax error in my post so you can deflect and keep being your own hero.

LOL Cinnie, you're really losing it, bro. Did YOU want to be my hero? I have but one hero in my life, and you will never figure that out, and that's okay. You don't have to.

But really - aren't we all supposed to be our own heroes? At the end of the day, it's only ourselves to take care of ourselves, right? So maybe being your own hero isn't so bad after all.

Now stop bogarting the thread because I mentioned WEAVES. Gheezus, pick another already.

Okay so this time you decided to write an aside about heroes. And every reply you delete the part you don't want to acknowledge.

Cinnie said:

The relative shittiness of Mel's comments doesn't explain (or excuse) why you decided to shoehorn in that yak hair weave comment, but whatevs.