SUPRMAN said:

paintedlady said:

""You look like a f*king pig in heat and if you get raped by a pack of ni**ers it will be your fault.""

It's basically wishing if he hopes for something to happen to her. He doesn't have to say verbatim "I wish.... blah blah happens" , saying if this happens its your own fault, is baiscally the same thing. Stop splitting hairs, since the statement is just plain evil and all kids of wrong.

Not splitting hairs.

Maybe you are imputing what you want to read into the statement.

If we are saying he is wishing it, then we should have a statement to that effect.

He could have said that, if that was his blatant attempt.

Saying a woman looks like a hooker, isn't suggesting or wishing she go stand on a corner and make some money for me . . . .

The second part of his statement reads like she's asking for rape. Like "if it happens...oh well!" HA HA!

That's wishing ill on someone. You can see it your way, that's your prerogative.

I liked his classic movies such as Mad Max I & II, Lethal Weapon and What Women Want and I still like them but I think I won´t be able to enjoy his newer movies after that antisemitic rant and now this recent racist tirade.

However, I´m not really surprised because his father Hutton Gibson probably layed the foundation for all this, and as far as I know Mel never really distanced himself from his eccentric and extremely rightwing father.

thepope2the9s said:

Not condoning what Mel said, but U all know that when u r in a heated

arguement/fight with your woman or soon to be ex....u say some crazy shit that you probably dont reallly mean. I know I have.

I can say with confidence that I've never said ANYTHING approaching that level of WTF?! to a woman. I understand and agree with your point. But most people have sanity lines in their heads that don't get crossed. Mel's appear to be somewhere WAAAAY the hell down the road where you can't even see them.

paintedlady said:

SUPRMAN said:

Not splitting hairs.

Maybe you are imputing what you want to read into the statement.

If we are saying he is wishing it, then we should have a statement to that effect.

He could have said that, if that was his blatant attempt.

Saying a woman looks like a hooker, isn't suggesting or wishing she go stand on a corner and make some money for me . . . .

The second part of his statement reads like she's asking for rape. Like "if it happens...oh well!" HA HA!

That's wishing ill on someone. You can see it your way, that's your prerogative.

Actually, no, it doesn't "read" that way. It's a quote. And it only takes basic reading comprehension skills to understand what it says. Mel went completely batshit again, fine. The guy clearly has unrepairable issues. But he didn't WISH for her to get raped. Even if you take it as her ASKING to get raped, that's STILL not him WISHING for her to get raped. I don't think many husbands or boyfriends would WISH for their woman to get raped. Geez. What he said was bad enough without reading more sensationalist nonsense into it.

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Cerebus said:

thepope2the9s said:

Not condoning what Mel said, but U all know that when u r in a heated

arguement/fight with your woman or soon to be ex....u say some crazy shit that you probably dont reallly mean. I know I have.

I can say with confidence that I've never said ANYTHING approaching that level of WTF?! to a woman. I understand and agree with your point. But most people have sanity lines in their heads that don't get crossed. Mel's appear to be somewhere WAAAAY the hell down the road where you can't even see them.

And, of course, she didn't provoke the argument. No way.

She just happens to record her conversations regularly

It's hard to believe that one of the best (if not the best) friend of Danny Glover actually said this.

Anyway, by "niggas" I think he was refeering to gangs, ghetto criminals and similar stuff; he's homophofe, and anti-semitic, that's for sure, but I hardly believe he's "anti-black"...

anyway pt.2 Mel is losing it as a person, yeah, the divorce, the anti-semitic rants, alcoholism, now this, wtf... he should have died after Braveheart, he should have been a fuckin' legend, but now he's destroying a legacy of 16 years of worthy cinema (79-95)..

PANDURITO said:

Cerebus said:

I can say with confidence that I've never said ANYTHING approaching that level of WTF?! to a woman. I understand and agree with your point. But most people have sanity lines in their heads that don't get crossed. Mel's appear to be somewhere WAAAAY the hell down the road where you can't even see them.

And, of course, she didn't provoke the argument. No way.

She just happens to record her conversations regularly

That's right flip the script. . .

Those words came out of Mr. Gibson's mouth; his thoughts are his responsibility, not hers.

PANDURITO said:

Cerebus said:

I can say with confidence that I've never said ANYTHING approaching that level of WTF?! to a woman. I understand and agree with your point. But most people have sanity lines in their heads that don't get crossed. Mel's appear to be somewhere WAAAAY the hell down the road where you can't even see them.

And, of course, she didn't provoke the argument. No way.

She just happens to record her conversations regularly

What? I'm not sure I understand your point, or sarcasm... or that I can even tell which one it is.

I don't believe she provoked the argument. I believe Mel has proven he's a racist asshat. It's fairly common these days if you're involved in relationship with someone like that to record conversations when you're trying to leave/get out.

JoeTyler said:

It's hard to believe that one of the best (if not the best) friend of Danny Glover actually said this.

Anyway, by "niggas" I think he was refeering to gangs, ghetto criminals and similar stuff; he's homophofe, and anti-semitic, that's for sure, but I hardly believe he's "anti-black"...

anyway pt.2 Mel is losing it as a person, yeah, the divorce, the anti-semitic rants, alcoholism, now this, wtf... he should have died after Braveheart, he should have been a fuckin' legend, but now he's destroying a legacy of 16 years of worthy cinema (79-95)..

I don't think it matters how he meant it, if he said it, it's a foul, racist comment. Anti-semitsm, when you get right down to it, is also racism. I think it's pretty fair to say that Mel either believes he belongs to the master race, or that he's a classless, moronic piece of shit. I just wasn't rased in a way where you can logic this kind of stuff out to have any meaning other than the most base. It's unacceptable to use those words in that way, period.

What really freaks me out is how much the guy has aged since the first anti semitic rant. Dude looks about 25 years older than he did then.

TheVoid said:

I remember when Prince performed the song Musicology on Jay Leno and as Prince was going to sit down to talk with Leno he shook Mel Gibson's hand enthusiastically and in a cheeky manor. Mel looked visibly uncomfortable from his fake ass smile.

I know this isn't relevant, but I just thought I'd share. I want to be part of this conversation any way I can, because there are some popular people on this thread. I want to be a part of that.

I just started reading this thread and I am already laughing, that snarky remark about "..because there are some popular people on this thread. I want to be a part of that" had me truly laugh out loud - in a public place mind you.

paintedlady said:

SUPRMAN said:

I don't think the statement was "wishing" rape on her.

Where is the "wish" part?

""You look like a f*king pig in heat and if you get raped by a pack of ni**ers it will be your fault.""

But this distortion of the facts will have a life of his own.

""You look like a f*king pig in heat and if you get raped by a pack of ni**ers it will be your fault.""

It's basically wishing if he hopes for something to happen to her. He doesn't have to say verbatim "I wish.... blah blah happens" , saying if this happens its your own fault, is baiscally the same thing. Stop splitting hairs, since the statement is just plain evil and all kids of wrong.

She's right. He was deffinately visualizing her getting gang -banged by people he finds inferior. Again, he does not actually SAAAAY that he finds them inferior, but I feel comfortable surmissing that.

KoolEaze said:

I liked his classic movies such as Mad Max I & II, Lethal Weapon and What Women Want and I still like them but I think I won´t be able to enjoy his newer movies after that antisemitic rant and now this recent racist tirade.

However, I´m not really surprised because his father Hutton Gibson probably layed the foundation for all this, and as far as I know Mel never really distanced himself from his eccentric and extremely rightwing father.

Exactly. And Mel made it perfectly clear to Diane Sawyer a few years earlier that he would NEVER go there talking against his father, regardless if his father was wrong about anything or not.

Keyumdi said:

paintedlady said:

""You look like a f*king pig in heat and if you get raped by a pack of ni**ers it will be your fault.""

It's basically wishing if he hopes for something to happen to her. He doesn't have to say verbatim "I wish.... blah blah happens" , saying if this happens its your own fault, is baiscally the same thing. Stop splitting hairs, since the statement is just plain evil and all kids of wrong.

Apparently in Mel's world packs of ni**gers like raping pigs in heat. This is the core of his particular brand of racism. That black/white shit is almost always about sex. I would not be surprised if Mel Gibson is a latent homosexual, or is perhaps troubled by an inappropriate sexual attraction to a female relative.

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Another line that got me laughing out loud in public "Apparently in Mel's world packs of ni**gers like raping pigs in heat". Personally Mel was an rabid jackass when this lady met him. He is no fool and came across when I first heard about her as a gold-digger who plans her every move. Mel is an idiot for not thinking his every move and every word isn't being documented and will be used against his sad ass in court. His wife of 30 plus years must be laughing her ass off, in a way. In another way she must be thinking "Why didn't I do that??? I am sure she has heard plenty of Linda-Blair-exorscist style comments out of his mouth in those 30 years.

The ones I feel sorry for are of course the kids. It is bad enough to be a celebrity kid without having to deal with a parent who says such scandelous things at every turn.

It scares me when the ills of the world are so easily brought to light.

JoeTyler said:

It's hard to believe that one of the best (if not the best) friend of Danny Glover actually said this.

Anyway, by "niggas" I think he was refeering to gangs, ghetto criminals and similar stuff; he's homophofe, and anti-semitic, that's for sure, but I hardly believe he's "anti-black"...

anyway pt.2 Mel is losing it as a person, yeah, the divorce, the anti-semitic rants, alcoholism, now this, wtf... he should have died after Braveheart, he should have been a fuckin' legend, but now he's destroying a legacy of 16 years of worthy cinema (79-95)..

I know. This is so DISSAPOINTING!!!!

Cerebus said:

paintedlady said:

The second part of his statement reads like she's asking for rape. Like "if it happens...oh well!" HA HA!

That's wishing ill on someone. You can see it your way, that's your prerogative.

Actually, no, it doesn't "read" that way. It's a quote. And it only takes basic reading comprehension skills to understand what it says. Mel went completely batshit again, fine. The guy clearly has unrepairable issues. But he didn't WISH for her to get raped. Even if you take it as her ASKING to get raped, that's STILL not him WISHING for her to get raped. I don't think many husbands or boyfriends would WISH for their woman to get raped. Geez. What he said was bad enough without reading more sensationalist nonsense into it.

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If someone said that to your daughter/sister/mother, how would you take it? No wait... you would take it at face value, and Nigger is just a word that only means ignorance. Gotcha.

paintedlady said:

Cerebus said:

Actually, no, it doesn't "read" that way. It's a quote. And it only takes basic reading comprehension skills to understand what it says. Mel went completely batshit again, fine. The guy clearly has unrepairable issues. But he didn't WISH for her to get raped. Even if you take it as her ASKING to get raped, that's STILL not him WISHING for her to get raped. I don't think many husbands or boyfriends would WISH for their woman to get raped. Geez. What he said was bad enough without reading more sensationalist nonsense into it.

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If someone said that to your daughter/sister/mother, how would you take it? No wait... you would take it at face value, and Nigger is just a word that only means ignorance. Gotcha.

What the hell are you talking about? Don't come at me with questions that you flippantly answer yourself followed by some other BS that YOU decided is what I meant. If you want to discuss this, fine. We can get down on it. If you want to talk shit in an attempt to make yourself look intelligent and holier than thou I will wash my hands of it and walk away. You don't know me, so don't even TRY to assume that you KNOW what I'm saying or how I feel. Silliness.

paintedlady said:

Cerebus said:

Actually, no, it doesn't "read" that way. It's a quote. And it only takes basic reading comprehension skills to understand what it says. Mel went completely batshit again, fine. The guy clearly has unrepairable issues. But he didn't WISH for her to get raped. Even if you take it as her ASKING to get raped, that's STILL not him WISHING for her to get raped. I don't think many husbands or boyfriends would WISH for their woman to get raped. Geez. What he said was bad enough without reading more sensationalist nonsense into it.

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If someone said that to your daughter/sister/mother, how would you take it? No wait... you would take it at face value, and Nigger is just a word that only means ignorance. Gotcha.

Unfortunately there are PHYCHOLOGICAL consequences to being called a "N****R." It can cause deep emotional scares that can last a LIFETIME for some people.

If Gibson said this he's disgusting. Can't say I'm surprised to hear about this. That's why I wouldn't be able to deal with Hollywood. Backstabbing going on all of the time.

Wow. I guess him and Danny Glover won't be having a Lethal Weapon reunion. Man, I have lost all respect for Mel Gibson. Dude is just out there. Waaaay out there.

PanicAttack said:

paintedlady said:

If someone said that to your daughter/sister/mother, how would you take it? No wait... you would take it at face value, and Nigger is just a word that only means ignorance. Gotcha.

Unfortunately there are PHYCHOLOGICAL consequences to being called a "N****R." It can cause deep emotional scares that can last a LIFETIME for some people.

The word Nigger goes way beyond psychological consequences in this country, Black people (men woman and children) have been killed. To pretend otherwise is dangerious, if not foolish. I'll leave it at that.

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Why do you keep repeating the word phychological?

Is Mel Gibson's wife black?

or did he say it in the presence of black people?

Cerebus said:

paintedlady said:

If someone said that to your daughter/sister/mother, how would you take it? No wait... you would take it at face value, and Nigger is just a word that only means ignorance. Gotcha.

What the hell are you talking about? Don't come at me with questions that you flippantly answer yourself followed by some other BS that YOU decided is what I meant. If you want to discuss this, fine. We can get down on it. If you want to talk shit in an attempt to make yourself look intelligent and holier than thou I will wash my hands of it and walk away. You don't know me, so don't even TRY to assume that you KNOW what I'm saying or how I feel. Silliness.

Silliness is the condescending remark you made about me not getting what was clearly written, insinuating that I lack basic reading comprehension skills? And I'm the one acting high and mighty? Holier than thou?

I'm the one saying how I feel about a statement in my own opinion as a woman of how it "reads" to me and I get these statements from you. Heck, I'm just handing you back the lovely sentiment in the same gracious manner you gave me.

Many folks here know that statement is a loaded one, for the racist remark, but that statement is sexist as well. My honest opinion.

Mel Gibson is a racist asshole, a bumbling moron, and an overrated mediocre talent.

And if I EVER heard anyone say some shit like that to myself or my mixed daughter, I'd rip their fucking throat out with my bare hands, and I don't give two shits whether he was "just mad" or "in a heated argument" or "not actually wishing it". That's a DISGUSTING thing to say to another human being, not only insulting a woman, but insulting black people on like three different levels.

Slurs against Jews, Woman (Intent to be "raped" is a slur in my book), and Black people... what's next? Gay bashing? Mexican jokes? He revolts me.

Fuck Mel Gibson. I can't wait until Karma inserts it's 12" cock into his ass full force... dry.

TD3 said:

PanicAttack said:

Unfortunately there are PHYCHOLOGICAL consequences to being called a "N****R." It can cause deep emotional scares that can last a LIFETIME for some people.

The word Nigger goes way beyond phycholocgical consequences in this country, Black people (men woman and children) have been killed. To pretend otherwise is dangerious, if not foolish. I'll leave it at that.

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Yes Panic I know, that's exactly why I posed the question. That word is loaded with hatred, and many "read" into that, that word is straight evil used to tear down a beautiful people and de-humanize them. This is why someone can't tell me that I'm reading too much into something and I should just take it at face value.

Mel Gibson's entire statement is a loaded one, full of hate.... sextist and racist. That man needs real therapy.

In another tirade, Mel tells Oksana: "How dare you act like such a bitch when I have been so f**king nice."

He warns, "I am going to come and burn the f**king house down... but you will blow me first."

www.radaronline.com/exclu...-would-get

moussemaker said:

In another tirade, Mel tells Oksana: "How dare you act like such a bitch when I have been so f**king nice."

He warns, "I am going to come and burn the f**king house down... but you will blow me first."

www.radaronline.com/exclu...-would-get

Dude needs therapy. Good grief!