dseann said:

NDRU said:

I'm not saying it should (and the 750 number is bogus as we all know) I'm just saying she's not a whore, he's the one at fault, and I don't feel sorry for him

I do know that the figure is bogus, that's not what I'm arguing. I can never say he's not at fault either but I neither feel happy or sorry for him. But, in general why should a man pay out the ass for being in an unfulfilling relationship.

And you conveniently ignored my second question. Why?

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IMO, whoever's the primary earner(husband or wife) shouldn't have to pay shit(outside of child support). I hate this, "the marriage didn't work out, so pay me!"

uPtoWnNY said:

dseann said:

I do know that the figure is bogus, that's not what I'm arguing. I can never say he's not at fault either but I neither feel happy or sorry for him. But, in general why should a man pay out the ass for being in an unfulfilling relationship.

And you conveniently ignored my second question. Why?

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IMO, whoever's the primary earner(husband or wife) shouldn't have to pay shit(outside of child support). I hate this, "the marriage didn't work out, so pay me!"

I agree with you 100%. Finally, someone I can see eye to eye with on this subject.

dseann said:

uPtoWnNY said:

IMO, whoever's the primary earner(husband or wife) shouldn't have to pay shit(outside of child support). I hate this, "the marriage didn't work out, so pay me!"

I agree with you 100%. Finally, someone I can see eye to eye with on this subject.

Add me to that list.

he knew he wasn't ready to get married....

he could have kept his money and his skanks....

so I don't feel any pity for his dumb cheater ass

BklynBabe said:

he knew he wasn't ready to get married....

he could have kept his money and his skanks....

so I don't feel any pity for his dumb cheater ass

dseann said:

uPtoWnNY said:

IMO, whoever's the primary earner(husband or wife) shouldn't have to pay shit(outside of child support). I hate this, "the marriage didn't work out, so pay me!"

I agree with you 100%. Finally, someone I can see eye to eye with on this subject.

I think it depends. If the marraige doesn't work out, fine. But if either party sleeps with 19 people while they're still married it's no different than taking someone to civil court for doing you some other kind of wrong. However, the other side of that is what if SHE had been the one sleeping around. What would Tiger have gotten from HER? *shrug* Still, that's a hypothetical. Tiger did dog her pretty hard. So I'm fine with a reasonable settlement. If it had just been the usual "irreconcilable differences", then I agree with your stance 100 percent.

uPtoWnNY said:

dseann said:

I do know that the figure is bogus, that's not what I'm arguing. I can never say he's not at fault either but I neither feel happy or sorry for him. But, in general why should a man pay out the ass for being in an unfulfilling relationship.

And you conveniently ignored my second question. Why?

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IMO, whoever's the primary earner(husband or wife) shouldn't have to pay shit(outside of child support). I hate this, "the marriage didn't work out, so pay me!"

In a family you support one another. A housewife takes pressure off of the husband so he can more fully focus on his career, aside from providing emotional support. She had been a model, and she gave it up to support his career & take care of his kids.

Being a housewife makes no money, so the husband's earnings factor into it over the couse of a marriage, and rightly so, because she is a part of his success

BklynBabe said:

he knew he wasn't ready to get married....

he could have kept his money and his skanks....

so I don't feel any pity for his dumb cheater ass

Thank You!!! Nobody forced this moron to put that ring on the nanny's finger. He made the choice to marry someone who wasn't even close to him financially, so what the fuck was he going to expect if the marriage didn't last...especially after he impregnated her twice (yeah, he was really unhappy in his marriage I bet ). If a marriage dissolves due to deceit, unfaithfulness, and any type of abuse, than I believe the guilty party (man OR woman) should be forced to pay the betrayed person for pain and suffering on top of other expenses (ie child support, etc.) Shit, it's an option for accident victims and other types of lawsuits so why shouldn't it be included in the dissolution of marriages?

Pre-nup or not, if you lie to your partner by doing some untrustworthy vile shit like Tiger did than a pre-nup should be rendered null and void in my opinion. What he did was not only morally wrong, deceitful, and totally disrespectful (not only to his wife; but to his mother and innocent children who should be priceless to him and definitely don't deserve to be shit on by there selfish ass father); but, like I originally said, could have introduced STDs to his wife which could have ultimately affected their children. Now, if he had just decided to end the marriage prior to the scandal and she expected astronomical amounts of money than I would be on his side because nothing sickens me more than women (and men) who marry for financial gain. I look at many of these individuals the same way I look at prostitutes who stand on street corners or work in whorehouses. I really hate when these greedy assholes throw out the "I have to stay in the lifestyle to which I've become accustomed" claim in divorce hearings...hmm, maybe that person should just get a job and keep themselves in the lifestyle that they have become accustomed to instead of having to rely on their ex for handouts JMHO.

Marriage should be about true love, honesty, and respect; not fucking convenience which is why I don't want to ever get married because those values have seemed to become a fuckin' joke in society nowadays. Nobody takes those vows seriously anymore, so I'm not even going to waste my time and energy just to get a little piece of paper. When you take those vows, you're not only making those promises to the person standing in front of you, but also to God so if you want to lie to the person you marry that's on you, but to lie to God isn't something that I could ever take lightly. All just my

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estelle81 said:Nobody takes those vows seriously anymore, so I'm not even going to waste my time and energy just to get a little piece of paper. When you take those vows, you're not only making those promises to the person standing in front of you, but also to God so if you want to lie to the person you marry that's on you, but to lie to God isn't something that I could ever take lightly. All just my

That's because there are too many folks are getting married(and having kids) who shouldn't. Instead of being totally honest with themselves, they marry for the wrong reasons(financial, family pressure, biological clock, fear of being alone, whatever).

My favorites are the dudes who tell me, "I've had my fun, sowed my wild oats, now it's time to settle down and have a family". When I hear that, I'm like, mfer please, you're making a big mistake - once a playa, always a playa. Most of the time, I've been right.

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uPtoWnNY said:

estelle81 said:Nobody takes those vows seriously anymore, so I'm not even going to waste my time and energy just to get a little piece of paper. When you take those vows, you're not only making those promises to the person standing in front of you, but also to God so if you want to lie to the person you marry that's on you, but to lie to God isn't something that I could ever take lightly. All just my

That's because there are too many folks are getting married(and having kids) who shouldn't. Instead of being totally honest with themselves, they marry for the wrong reasons(financial, family pressure, biological clock, fear of being alone, whatever).

My favorites are the dudes who tell me, "I've had my fun, sowed my wild oats, now it's time to settle down and have a family". When I hear that, I'm like, mfer please, you're making a big mistake - once a playa, always a playa. Most of the time, I've been right.

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If I ever met a guy who told me that shit, I'd tell him to continue to sow his oats and throw the ring back at his ass. I'd rather have his unconditional love and respect than any ring...money comes and goes, but true love is forever and priceless. I'm sorry, but I believe in total honesty in marriage otherwise what's the point. If he or I ever wants to have sex with other people than we need to communicate with each other instead of lying and going behind each others backs. There are couples who go to swingers parties and have open marriages where they both agree to having other partners which is a sticky subject but it's better than being a lying, backstabbing cheater. At least in those scenarios, you stated your case so the other person really can't get mad at you...it's like a disclaimer really. Maybe if Tiger had told her that he wanted to have an open marriage, maybe she would have agreed to it and none of this would be happening, but he chose to lie and be deceitful which is really what I have a problem with. Personally, I'm going the Goldie Hawn/Kurt Russell/ Gene Simmons' route. No papers, no rings, no ceremony...we break up; you take your shit and I take mine and we go our separate ways; simple, clean, and painless. Life is too short and precious for all that drama.

I read where Elin had asked for $375 million but found out that Tiger has been hiding money all over the world, so that's why she upped it to $750 million.

Of course, I read that in The Star, so take it for what it's worth.