MrsMdiver said:

Genesia said:

What kind do you use for the baby? It might help to use a mineral sunscreen - one containing titanium dioxide or zinc oxide (which is in diaper rash cream) - rather than a chemical sunscreen.

Yes, I was desperate for something that day and went into the chemist. All they had were the major big brand sunscreens. Charged an arm and a leg for something I cannot use.

I need to order something more natural for him.

Do you have these products there - http://www.erbolario.com/...hp?id=1337 ? I used their sun cream for my face last year and I loved it. I'm quite pleased with their products. I believe they're different from the big brands you're talking about.

tinaz said:

MrsMdiver said:

Yes, I was desperate for something that day and went into the chemist. All they had were the major big brand sunscreens. Charged an arm and a leg for something I cannot use.

I need to order something more natural for him.

http://www.burtsbees.com/...pf-30.html

You can order from their website..

Great to see more companies offering this option. I've used Neutrogena Sensitive Skin for years, but it's nice to have alternatives in case I can't find that.

Genesia said:

tinaz said:

http://www.burtsbees.com/...pf-30.html

You can order from their website..

Great to see more companies offering this option. I've used Neutrogena Sensitive Skin for years, but it's nice to have alternatives in case I can't find that.

I agree, I too have sensitive skin so I am limited to what I can use... Now I just wish someone would make a chemical free hairspray!

Genesia said:

tinaz said:

http://www.burtsbees.com/...pf-30.html

You can order from their website..

Great to see more companies offering this option. I've used Neutrogena Sensitive Skin for years, but it's nice to have alternatives in case I can't find that.

I checked on the Neutrogen stuff you suggested. They want a fortune to ship it from the states. I can find all sorts of good organic natural stuff online, trouble is I keep forgetting to order. I wish you could go into the chemist/drug store here and get the good stuff, not the big name brand crap.

We do have some Bert's Bee products here but have yet to find baby sun creams.

Aelis said:

MrsMdiver said:

Yes, I was desperate for something that day and went into the chemist. All they had were the major big brand sunscreens. Charged an arm and a leg for something I cannot use.

I need to order something more natural for him.

Do you have these products there - http://www.erbolario.com/...hp?id=1337 ? I used their sun cream for my face last year and I loved it. I'm quite pleased with their products. I believe they're different from the big brands you're talking about.

The web page doesn't say what active ingredient (ie, screening agent) is in this stuff. "Unsaponifiable Fractions of Olive Oil and Avocado Oil" aren't going to keep a person from getting a sunburn.

MrsMdiver said:

Genesia said:

Great to see more companies offering this option. I've used Neutrogena Sensitive Skin for years, but it's nice to have alternatives in case I can't find that.

I checked on the Neutrogen stuff you suggested. They want a fortune to ship it from the states. I can find all sorts of good organic natural stuff online, trouble is I keep forgetting to order. I wish you could go into the chemist/drug store here and get the good stuff, not the big name brand crap.

We do have some Bert's Bee products here but have yet to find baby sun creams.

Maybe the places that carry Burt's Bees would be willing to special order the baby sun cream for you. It never hurts to ask!

Genesia said:

Aelis said:

Do you have these products there - http://www.erbolario.com/...hp?id=1337 ? I used their sun cream for my face last year and I loved it. I'm quite pleased with their products. I believe they're different from the big brands you're talking about.

The web page doesn't say what active ingredient (ie, screening agent) is in this stuff. "Unsaponifiable Fractions of Olive Oil and Avocado Oil" aren't going to keep a person from getting a sunburn.

That's something that can be found out by asking a qualified person or perhaps exploring the page more carefully. I instantly remembered that company when I read she wanted something more natural.

No offence to anyone, but for those of you who never use it or seldom use it, I hope you like all the scars and surgery you will have to have when you're older. Seriously, skin cancer is no joke. Both my mother and mother in law have it and both have had surgeries to remove growths that have spread and become cancerous. The surgeries were very painful and have left big scars on their faces. My poor mother is covered in skin cancer and is treated on a regular basis. She spent most of her life sitting in the sun with no protection at all. Her Dr is convinced it's from the sun and using nothing for all those years.

Start using sunblock folks - you will thank youself as you get older and you don't have to get your face all cut up to remove cancer. It doesn't matter what your skin colour is - use it.

Genesia said:

MrsMdiver said:

I checked on the Neutrogen stuff you suggested. They want a fortune to ship it from the states. I can find all sorts of good organic natural stuff online, trouble is I keep forgetting to order. I wish you could go into the chemist/drug store here and get the good stuff, not the big name brand crap.

We do have some Bert's Bee products here but have yet to find baby sun creams.

Maybe the places that carry Burt's Bees would be willing to special order the baby sun cream for you. It never hurts to ask!

I will look into it further. I need some for this weekend. I will just have to use what I have and deal with the skin rashes.

Most sunsceens cause my acne to flare up. It is very frustrating. Not all sunscreens are good at protecting you like they should.

I have read several articles on what the harsh chemicals can do to us and the ocean.

Scary to think that something that is supposed to protect us can do so much harm.

Empress said:

No offence to anyone, but for those of you who never use it or seldom use it, I hope you like all the scars and surgery you will have to have when you're older. Seriously, skin cancer is no joke. Both my mother and mother in law have it and both have had surgeries to remove growths that have spread and become cancerous. The surgeries were very painful and have left big scars on their faces. My poor mother is covered in skin cancer and is treated on a regular basis. She spent most of her life sitting in the sun with no protection at all. Her Dr is convinced it's from the sun and using nothing for all those years.

Start using sunblock folks - you will thank youself as you get older and you don't have to get your face all cut up to remove cancer. It doesn't matter what your skin colour is - use it.

Thanks, Mom.

Empress said:

No offence to anyone, but for those of you who never use it or seldom use it, I hope you like all the scars and surgery you will have to have when you're older. Seriously, skin cancer is no joke. Both my mother and mother in law have it and both have had surgeries to remove growths that have spread and become cancerous. The surgeries were very painful and have left big scars on their faces. My poor mother is covered in skin cancer and is treated on a regular basis. She spent most of her life sitting in the sun with no protection at all. Her Dr is convinced it's from the sun and using nothing for all those years.

Start using sunblock folks - you will thank youself as you get older and you don't have to get your face all cut up to remove cancer. It doesn't matter what your skin colour is - use it.

Wow - could you generalize just a little more? Not everyone who doesn't use sunscreen will develop skin cancer. And there is mounting evidence that many chemical sunscreens may actually contribute to the development of skin cancer, rather than preventing it.

Wearing sunscreen all the time also reduces your body's production of vitamin D. Vitamin D has been shown to prevent the development of other kinds of cancer. (That's why people in the southern states have lower rates of many kinds of cancer than people in the north.) So while you're slathering on sunscreen, which may or may not prevent skin cancer, you may be unwittingly be setting yourself up for skin or other kinds of cancer.

And before you get all over me, I have had skin cancer, as have both of my parents. We all wear sunscreen when it's appropriate. But there is absolutely no reason to wear it for sun exposure of short duration. For most people, by the time they're old enough to post on this board, the skin cancer die have already been cast, since it is sunburns received as children that do the most damage.

but she said 'no offense'

thejason said:

but she said 'no offense'

Yeah, she did. Which is like when people apologize by saying, "I'm sorry if you were offended." It isn't that they said something stupid, it's that you're stupid for taking exception.

I hate that shit.

Though my skin is really pale even compared to msot white people, my Native ancestry allows me some kind of super-UV protection. I can count the number of sunburns I've had in my life on one hand. So I rarely wear sunscreen even though I know I should. It doesn't take a burn to damage your skin, and even those with plenty of melanin should take precautions.

Never used it.

Genesia said:

Wearing sunscreen all the time also reduces your body's production of vitamin D. Vitamin D has been shown to prevent the development of other kinds of cancer. (That's why people in the southern states have lower rates of many kinds of cancer than people in the north.) So while you're slathering on sunscreen, which may or may not prevent skin cancer, you may be unwittingly be setting yourself up for skin or other kinds of cancer.

My wife, her sister, and mother were just recently diagnosed with severe vitamin D deficiency. They are all taking 50,000 IU tablets twice a week for 10 weeks or some shit like that, which is like 50 million times (slight exaggeration) the amount of D the average person needs. Doctor told her loads of folks are D deficient because people use sunblock all the time. Doc also said everyone could get the vitamin D they need by simply being in sunlight for 15 minutes a day (with no sunscreen and this is not recommended for you vampires out there).

Genesia said:

Empress said:

No offence to anyone, but for those of you who never use it or seldom use it, I hope you like all the scars and surgery you will have to have when you're older. Seriously, skin cancer is no joke. Both my mother and mother in law have it and both have had surgeries to remove growths that have spread and become cancerous. The surgeries were very painful and have left big scars on their faces. My poor mother is covered in skin cancer and is treated on a regular basis. She spent most of her life sitting in the sun with no protection at all. Her Dr is convinced it's from the sun and using nothing for all those years.

Start using sunblock folks - you will thank youself as you get older and you don't have to get your face all cut up to remove cancer. It doesn't matter what your skin colour is - use it.

Wow - could you generalize just a little more? Not everyone who doesn't use sunscreen will develop skin cancer. And there is mounting evidence that many chemical sunscreens may actually contribute to the development of skin cancer, rather than preventing it.

Wearing sunscreen all the time also reduces your body's production of vitamin D. Vitamin D has been shown to prevent the development of other kinds of cancer. (That's why people in the southern states have lower rates of many kinds of cancer than people in the north.) So while you're slathering on sunscreen, which may or may not prevent skin cancer, you may be unwittingly be setting yourself up for skin or other kinds of cancer.

And before you get all over me, I have had skin cancer, as have both of my parents. We all wear sunscreen when it's appropriate. But there is absolutely no reason to wear it for sun exposure of short duration. For most people, by the time they're old enough to post on this board, the skin cancer die have already been cast, since it is sunburns received as children that do the most damage.

Totally.

I never put sunscreen on my son until he's had at least 15-20 minutes of direct sun exposure. If we're out there all day, I will then put some on. But I don't bother with myself anymore.

Poiple said:

Genesia said:

Wearing sunscreen all the time also reduces your body's production of vitamin D. Vitamin D has been shown to prevent the development of other kinds of cancer. (That's why people in the southern states have lower rates of many kinds of cancer than people in the north.) So while you're slathering on sunscreen, which may or may not prevent skin cancer, you may be unwittingly be setting yourself up for skin or other kinds of cancer.

My wife, her sister, and mother were just recently diagnosed with severe vitamin D deficiency. They are all taking 50,000 IU tablets twice a week for 10 weeks or some shit like that, which is like 50 million times (slight exaggeration) the amount of D the average person needs. Doctor told her loads of folks are D deficient because people use sunblock all the time. Doc also said everyone could get the vitamin D they need by simply being in sunlight for 15 minutes a day (with no sunscreen and this is not recommended for you vampires out there).

The last two winters, I have had serious vitamin D deficiencies - and I drink vitamin D milk and take cod liver oil!

The other thing that I forgot to mention is that people of color require much longer sun exposure to produce adequate vitamin D.

JustErin said:

Genesia said:

Wow - could you generalize just a little more? Not everyone who doesn't use sunscreen will develop skin cancer. And there is mounting evidence that many chemical sunscreens may actually contribute to the development of skin cancer, rather than preventing it.

Wearing sunscreen all the time also reduces your body's production of vitamin D. Vitamin D has been shown to prevent the development of other kinds of cancer. (That's why people in the southern states have lower rates of many kinds of cancer than people in the north.) So while you're slathering on sunscreen, which may or may not prevent skin cancer, you may be unwittingly be setting yourself up for skin or other kinds of cancer.

And before you get all over me, I have had skin cancer, as have both of my parents. We all wear sunscreen when it's appropriate. But there is absolutely no reason to wear it for sun exposure of short duration. For most people, by the time they're old enough to post on this board, the skin cancer die have already been cast, since it is sunburns received as children that do the most damage.

Totally.

I never put sunscreen on my son until he's had at least 15-20 minutes of direct sun exposure. If we're out there all day, I will then put some on. But I don't bother with myself anymore.

Good deal! They're actually starting to see a resurgence of rickets, because kids no longer play outside the way they used to - or because they're sunscreened up all the time.

I should because I take Prozac and that makes me very photosensitive, but I always forget and wind up burnt.

...adding a few shaves of this could be good news for your skin: lemon zest. A compound in lemon peels appears to help ward off a common skin cancer -- squamous cell carcinoma (SCC) -- by up to 34 percent. And it's all thanks to a citrus compound called d-Limonene.

D-Limonene seems to help keep skin cancer cells from growing and multiplying. And you can find plenty of the stuff in citrus peels; d-Limonene makes up more than 90 percent of citrus-peel oil. In a study of people who lived in sunny Arizona, those who consumed the most citrus zest had the lowest rates of SCC. And the more lemon, orange, and grapefruit zest the people consumed, the more they were protected from SCC.

http://www.realage.com/ti...d=30752527

I use sunscreen cuz I don't like pain and I don't want a terminal disease...

I had no clue this thread would drum up such deep seated animosity. I totally want to see a catfight tonight too.

Anyways, I'm sorry for those of you who have bruised feelings on this thread. I mean, it's entertaining, but I'm sorry anyways.

TheVoid said:

I had no clue this thread would drum up such deep seated animosity. I totally want to see a catfight tonight too.

Anyways, I'm sorry for those of you who have bruised feelings on this thread. I mean, it's entertaining, but I'm sorry anyways.

This is the most limp-dicked thread bump in the history of the org.

Genesia said:

TheVoid said:

I had no clue this thread would drum up such deep seated animosity. I totally want to see a catfight tonight too.

Anyways, I'm sorry for those of you who have bruised feelings on this thread. I mean, it's entertaining, but I'm sorry anyways.

This is the most limp-dicked thread bump in the history of the org.

PunkMistress said:

CarrieMpls said:

I even have to put it on my scalp at the part of my hair.

Funny story:

When they were small, I used to keep my daughters' hair braided, so there was a network of scalp exposed to the sun. On a vacation to Florida, my mother was taking them to the pool and I asked her to help them put on sunscreen.

"And don't forget to rub some into their parts," I reminded her.

My mother paused.

"...won't their bathing suits cover that?"

Classic-!

I usually don't.

When I was a kid my mom would always make us wear sunscreen to the beach.

As I got older, I got lazy about it. I'm very tan naturally, so I really have to cook myself to get a sunburn.

However, about 2 years ago, I witnessed first-hand the rapid progression of melanoma from a "pimple" on a co-workers face into full-fledged cancer and attended her funeral.

So I usually sit under an umbrella when we go to the beach...and the kids get sprayed thoroughly. My wife is fair-skinned so she gets 2 applications.

Although I am extremely pale I don't use it often. Contrary to what everybody believes I don't get sunburns easily. When I am staying in Trinidad I use it if I am exposed to the sun for longer periods of time though. And I avoid to stay in the sun longer than necessary.

Serious said:

Although I am extremely pale I don't use it often. Contrary to what everybody believes I don't get sunburns easily. When I am staying in Trinidad I use it if I am exposed to the sun for longer periods of time though. And I avoid to stay in the sun longer than necessary.

I always wonder what it's like to burn so easily. I have friends who used to sunburn in Europe. I don't recall every having sunburned in Europe, and I spent as much time outdoors as I could during the warm months.