Shyra said:

BklynBabe said:

how about women stop giving up pussy to no account fools.....

teach your daughters...no job, no pussy, no education, no pussy, no morals, no pussy, teach women how to make men beg for pussy and ackrite! If all of us women unified on this it would have never been a problem

the first time a man opened his mouth to say he was superior a woman should've been right there saying....if I have no rights you gets no pussy!

maybe we need to designate National No Pussy Month! I bet wars would end, the BP oil spill would get cleaned up, and world famine would end!

(might have to lock some goats up for a minute in some countries though.....)

seriously though, young women should be taught to value their bodies!!! don't put this on young men. teach young women how to make men work to get the pussy and teach young men that pussy ain't for free.

Naw, honey. The sheep! The sheep! Reminds me of that line in "Good Will Hunting" when Will told Robin Williams' character, "Fuck You!" and Robin fired back, "You're the shepard..."

The sheep!!!!

DesireeNevermind said:

Shit....where the hell was this no pussy education seminar held? I surely missed it.

I do believe it went something like this....

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, Pussy Control!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasectomy

and no thats not a real solution of course..

since females shoulder half the responsibility

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peb319 said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasectomy

and no thats not a real solution of course..

since females shoulder half the responsibility

[Edited 6/15/10 17:27pm]

I'm glad that condoms are advertised on TV.

Then you have the viagra and the discreet device to make a dick hard that get advertised too

BklynBabe said:

how about women stop giving up pussy to no account fools.....

teach your daughters...no job, no pussy, no education, no pussy, no morals, no pussy, teach women how to make men beg for pussy and ackrite! If all of us women unified on this it would have never been a problem

the first time a man opened his mouth to say he was superior a woman should've been right there saying....if I have no rights you gets no pussy!

maybe we need to designate National No Pussy Month! I bet wars would end, the BP oil spill would get cleaned up, and world famine would end!

(might have to lock some goats up for a minute in some countries though.....)

seriously though, young women should be taught to value their bodies!!! don't put this on young men. teach young women how to make men work to get the pussy and teach young men that pussy ain't for free.

pussy

I've changed my mind. National No Pussy Month should be in February. No sense in gettin' crazy with it. Who the heck could go 31 days anyway?

DesireeNevermind said:

FauxReal said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I've changed my mind. National No Pussy Month should be in February. No sense in gettin' crazy with it. Who the heck could go 31 days anyway?

Cool, we can officially abolish Valentine's Day in the process. Everybody wins!

well if you got a man, and he knows how to ackrite, then he can have some pussy! I bet any man that wants pussy would go all out for Valentine's Day because he knows he gotta represent in order to get some pussy. No more free pussy! Flowers, candy, AND a steak and skrimp dinner!!! Minimum!! Otherwise no pussy!

BklynBabe said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Should they be mandatorily performed on teen males maybe starting at 14 up to 19 so as to curb teen pregnancies? It's a less invasive surgery than tubal ligation and apparently we can't by and large trust teen girls to take birth control pills. Also said pills may increase their risks for breast cancer. Also I'm not sure how successful the rate of pregnancy is upon reversing a tubal ligation. So what say you? Snip them little fuckers since they can't keep their shit strapped and all too often take no responsibility once the bun is in the oven?

This is the org ethical question of the day.

PROCEED.

NO.

DesireeNevermind said:

FauxReal said:

DesireeNevermind said: No. Reversals are not 100% guaranteed, and there is a slight risk of erectile dysfunction I believe. To fuck up someone's life because what they MIGHT have done is not okay.

Aren't these males going to get erectile dysfunction eventually? Wait....if some horny dude can't keep his schlong in his pants....isn't that also a form of erectile dysfunction (the reverse)? fuck up someone's life. That's kind of the end result with all these teen baby mothers and their offspring who have a greater risk of becoming ill equipped teen parents/high school dropouts as well no?

If we stop engaging as a species in heterosexual sex, then we wouldn't have to worry about children growing up to be sexually active.

FauxReal said:

BklynBabe said:

well if you got a man, and he knows how to ackrite, then he can have some pussy! I bet any man that wants pussy would go all out for Valentine's Day because he knows he gotta represent in order to get some pussy. No more free pussy! Flowers, candy, AND a steak and skrimp dinner!!! Minimum!! Otherwise no pussy!

So it's almost like it's National Prostitution Month... right?

you know what? teens have more babies than hookers!

BklynBabe said:

FauxReal said:

BklynBabe said: So it's almost like it's National Prostitution Month... right?

you know what? teens have more babies than hookers!

Hookers have rotted out fallopian tubes from Chlamydia, and other infections.

Teens tend to have healthy disease free organs. You are supposed to get preggers from sex. If you have diseased organs its harder. A run down vag can't hold a baby.

BklynBabe said:

how about women stop giving up pussy to no account fools.....

teach your daughters...no job, no pussy, no education, no pussy, no morals, no pussy, teach women how to make men beg for pussy and ackrite! If all of us women unified on this it would have never been a problem

the first time a man opened his mouth to say he was superior a woman should've been right there saying....if I have no rights you gets no pussy!

maybe we need to designate National No Pussy Month! I bet wars would end, the BP oil spill would get cleaned up, and world famine would end!

(might have to lock some goats up for a minute in some countries though.....)

seriously though, young women should be taught to value their bodies!!! don't put this on young men. teach young women how to make men work to get the pussy and teach young men that pussy ain't for free.

Amen! Tosses the chruch hat up and starts dancing in the Spirit.

paintedlady said:

BklynBabe said:

you know what? teens have more babies than hookers!

Hookers have rotted out fallopian tubes from Chlamydia, and other infections.

Teens tend to have healthy disease free organs. You are supposed to get preggers from sex. If you have diseased organs its harder. A run down vag can't hold a baby.

paintedlady said:

BklynBabe said:

you know what? teens have more babies than hookers!

Hookers have rotted out fallopian tubes from Chlamydia, and other infections.

Teens tend to have healthy disease free organs. You are supposed to get preggers from sex. If you have diseased organs its harder. A run down vag can't hold a baby.

Exhibit A - Michelle Duggar

mandatory ANYTHING of this sort?

absolutely not!

OnlyNDaUsa said:

mandatory ANYTHING of this sort?

absolutely not!

I agree. As much as certain people SHOULDN'T have kids....nothing of this sort should EVER be MANDATORY...but choice???...sure...it might be smart, but the reversals aren't 100% SO I wouldn't put all my eggs in THAT basket...so to speak...lol. That damn Octomom shouldn't have anymore kids...but nowhere ANYwhere does it say or should it be mandatory that we take away her right to have more children. Should that damn Duggard(sp?) woman have anymore kids....she's already got like 20...the damn kids r raising the kids....NO she shouldn't. Can anyone or keep her from having more. NO...and no one should be able to make her stop.

I am a HUGE proponet of birth control. Me and Mr. Trojan r tight like tigers! The key word is control. Control implies choice. Once the choice is made FOR someone, THEIR ability to choose is gone.

To FORCE birth control upon someone is terrible and wrong and immoral.

I believe the Chinese do this and it forces families into terrible decisions...from what I've heard. Never actually, fully researched the subject of Chinese child limitations.

Shoot....it's this ONE issue that keeps me from being "Pro castration" of certain sex-offenders.

Compulsory sterilization?!?!

Are you serious? We did do that once upon a time. It was grotesque.

So, what would you call this procedure? It was once called the "Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily/Genetically Diseased Offspring"......but that was in Nazi Germany.

This is such an ignorant thread.

Snip jobs aren't even considered reversible. They are reversible in only the best case scenarios.

JerseyKRS said:

Compulsory sterilization?!?!

Are you serious? We did do that once upon a time. It was grotesque.

So, what would you call this procedure? It was once called the "Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily/Genetically Diseased Offspring"......but that was in Nazi Germany.

This is such an ignorant thread.

Snip jobs aren't even considered reversible. They are reversible in only the best case scenarios.

That is EXACTLY what I was thinking of, but didn't even want to give it the credit of mentioning. I had some strange wave of some kind of version of political correctness or something come over me. I should have just said it, it wouldn't have offended anyone.

DesireeNevermind said:

luv4u said:

Why put the onus on the male population???

It take 2 to make a baby.

And why is it up to the schools to teach teens about the birds and the bees??? Darn lazy ass parents.

Because the onus has for far too long been on the female. The schools have pretty much volunteered to teach the kids because either the parents are lazy or the schools don't like what the parents teach.

Plus it's just plain easier for the males. Not much is involved with them to make a baby and not much is involved to keep them from making babies. We would be doing the earth a favor. Population control. The only reason we have so many people is become the males spread so much of their seed - often amongst several females at once. There was a thread in here not long ago about some dude in family court for owing child support on over 2 dozen kids. Some of his women didn't even know he had so many other mates and offspring.

yep....gotta get them boyz and get em young.

But they aren't raping these women are they?

It's just plain easier for the males? Not if she keeps her legs closed . . . .

JerseyKRS said:

Compulsory sterilization?!?!

Are you serious? We did do that once upon a time. It was grotesque.

So, what would you call this procedure? It was once called the "Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily/Genetically Diseased Offspring"......but that was in Nazi Germany.

This is such an ignorant thread.

Snip jobs aren't even considered reversible. They are reversible in only the best case scenarios.

Was just getting ready to post something very similar, but you said it better than I could!

Education is key, folks. Teach your damn kids to keep it in the pants.

DesireeNevermind said:

luv4u said:

This is plain wrong and unethical on all levels.

The Earth a favour?? No hell way is that happening with all the different cultures/religions and beliefs. Won't happen.

Maybe you have issues with men??

Of course I have issues with men. What woman doesn't? I just think the time has come for the brunt of birth control to be on the man's shoulders. Women have been cut up, drugged up, knocked up and criticized for too damn long. Let's let the guys have to be constantly thinking about pregnancy.

In fact.... how about pre-child support? What about setting up an account for a certain percentage of all men's earnings and have it be used for child support for any bratz they may accidentally bring in to the world. That way the female doesn't have to worry about taking the dude to court. Money is already there.

the other org ethical question of the day.

Pre-birth child support. Shall the government (in case the vote on mandatory vasectomy fails) deduct a percentage of a man's earning for any future children he brings into the world?

That's not an ethical question.

How do we know a man is going to sire children?

Because he's engaged in sex does not mean he will father children.

And what about women intentionally getting pregnant to get their hands on that account?

DesireeNevermind said:

MoniGram said:

I am currently writing a paper about sex education in schools and teen pregnancy. I truly feel that we need more education concerning sex, pregnancy and all the birth control options out there. I also feel that schools should be allowed to hand out condoms. I don't feel it's "telling" the teenager to have sex, I think it's saying be smart!

They do this in NYC and LA and still there is too high a teen pregnancy rate. Clearly sex ed and free condoms are not enough. There's a maturity that lacking...naturally so....their teensand still kids. That's why I say snip that shit. Heck in my state it's mandatory for girls to get the HPV vaccine even though there haven't been enough long term studies on the affects and supposedly the pharmaceutical company behind the vaccine were the ones pushing for it to be required in the schools. Merk I think is the company. Soooo....if we can force that without knowing all the long term side affects, offering a choice or other option to the girl and her parents or worrying about future fertility then why not give the boys a temporary vasectomy?

Or temporarily tie her tubes . . .

Genesia said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Of course I have issues with men. What woman doesn't? I just think the time has come for the brunt of birth control to be on the man's shoulders. Women have been cut up, drugged up, knocked up and criticized for too damn long. Let's let the guys have to be constantly thinking about pregnancy.

In fact.... how about pre-child support? What about setting up an account for a certain percentage of all men's earnings and have it be used for child support for any bratz they may accidentally bring in to the world. That way the female doesn't have to worry about taking the dude to court. Money is already there.

the other org ethical question of the day.

Pre-birth child support. Shall the government (in case the vote on mandatory vasectomy fails) deduct a percentage of a man's earning for any future children he brings into the world?

That will never happen as long as women are the ones who get pregnant.

I would never trust a man to handle the birth control. He could be the most conscientious man in the world - and he still wouldn't care about avoiding pregnancy as much as I. Men just don't think that far ahead. I'm sorry, but they don't.

Generalize much?

JerseyKRS said:

Compulsory sterilization?!?!

Are you serious? We did do that once upon a time. It was grotesque.

So, what would you call this procedure? It was once called the "Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily/Genetically Diseased Offspring"......but that was in Nazi Germany.

This is such an ignorant thread.

Snip jobs aren't even considered reversible. They are reversible in only the best case scenarios.

I know, and how can anyone that is at all pro-choice ever even think this could be a good idea?

SUPRMAN said:

Genesia said:

That will never happen as long as women are the ones who get pregnant.

I would never trust a man to handle the birth control. He could be the most conscientious man in the world - and he still wouldn't care about avoiding pregnancy as much as I. Men just don't think that far ahead. I'm sorry, but they don't.

Generalize much?

Generalization to you. Common sense to me.

SUPRMAN said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Because the onus has for far too long been on the female. The schools have pretty much volunteered to teach the kids because either the parents are lazy or the schools don't like what the parents teach.

Plus it's just plain easier for the males. Not much is involved with them to make a baby and not much is involved to keep them from making babies. We would be doing the earth a favor. Population control. The only reason we have so many people is become the males spread so much of their seed - often amongst several females at once. There was a thread in here not long ago about some dude in family court for owing child support on over 2 dozen kids. Some of his women didn't even know he had so many other mates and offspring.

yep....gotta get them boyz and get em young.

But they aren't raping these women are they?

It's just plain easier for the males? Not if she keeps her legs closed . . . .

who know's if these girls are being raped or not. teen pressure to have sex could be considered a form of rape - perhaps psychological. what about statutory rape where the guy is 18 and the girl is say 15/16? It's easy to tell a girl keep your legs closed and I'm sure most would do it if they didn't feel like so much of their value lied between their legs. We could also tell the guys to keep their schlongs in their pants but again....they won't do it. So....if these teen boys are so inclined to freely fuck and walk away then why not prevent their seed from meeting the egg?

Humans are most fertile in their teens and also most irresponsible and immature for parenting so why not nip this in the bud and start with the guys who often procreate more than the females. It won't hurt, if performed correctly it IS often reversible contrary to popular opinion on this thread and we take a load off Mandy.

JerseyKRS said:

Compulsory sterilization?!?!

Are you serious? We did do that once upon a time. It was grotesque.

So, what would you call this procedure? It was once called the "Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily/Genetically Diseased Offspring"......but that was in Nazi Germany.

This is such an ignorant thread.

Snip jobs aren't even considered reversible. They are reversible in only the best case scenarios.

Nobody is talking about sterilizing females or sterilizing people based on some false sense of racial or ethnic or genetic inferiority so please leave the default Nazi Germany argument out of this. This is a GD thread not a P&R thread.

Condoms and birth controll pills are not even considered 100% reliable for pregnancy prevention. They only prevent pregnancy in the best case scenarios.

and if this thread is so ignorant then why did you bother posting on it?

DesireeNevermind said:

JerseyKRS said:

Compulsory sterilization?!?!

Are you serious? We did do that once upon a time. It was grotesque.

So, what would you call this procedure? It was once called the "Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily/Genetically Diseased Offspring"......but that was in Nazi Germany.

This is such an ignorant thread.

Snip jobs aren't even considered reversible. They are reversible in only the best case scenarios.

Nobody is talking about sterilizing females or sterilizing people based on some false sense of racial or ethnic or genetic inferiority so please leave the default Nazi Germany argument out of this. This is a GD thread not a P&R thread.

Condoms and birth controll pills are not even considered 100% reliable for pregnancy prevention. They only prevent pregnancy in the best case scenarios.

and if this thread is so ignorant then why did you bother posting on it?

soooooooooooooooo, if forced sterilization is just for males and not for eugenic reasons, then it is acceptable? Who gets to pass that judgement??? The reason it's a default argument is because it is a perfect example of why you can't have forced sterilization.

So, you see? It's kind of the same thing even though not exactly. You can't go around taking peoples freedom, sweetheart. No one gets to pass that judgement.

rubbers and the pill are proven to be at LEAST 90% effective when used properly. That's a far cry away from preventing pregnancy in only the best case scenario IMO.

I bothered posting on it because you asked, remember???