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Thread started 05/12/10 5:58am

Graycap23

Star athlete at Permian HS really 22

eek This is a strange one.....


ODESSA, Texas -- A West Texas student who led his high school basketball team to the state playoffs last season was actually a 22-year-old man, police said Tuesday.

Police say the basketball star was really Guerdwich Montimere, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Haiti who school officials say was recognized last month by Florida coaches as having been a star high school player in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., a few years ago.

Ector County school district officials said the man posed as 16-year-old Jerry Joseph and enrolled at Permian High School in Odessa for the 2009-2010 academic year. He also presented himself as homeless to the school's basketball coach, Danny Wright, who took the boy in last summer, the coach said.

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Reply #1 posted 05/12/10 5:59am

JustErin

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falloff
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Reply #2 posted 05/12/10 6:32am

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This is the Friday Night Lights high school lol
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Reply #3 posted 05/12/10 6:36am

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....I hope he didnt have a girlfriend at school eek
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Reply #4 posted 05/12/10 6:45am

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lol
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Reply #5 posted 05/12/10 8:05am

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falloff falloff falloff Most sane people can't wait to get the fuck out of high school and this dumb ass seems to be in love with it.
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Reply #6 posted 05/12/10 1:10pm

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that's my hometown.

sigh

i think i am going to start claiming michigan again.
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Reply #7 posted 05/12/10 2:50pm

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I just saw this shit on my local news. Damn lol
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Reply #8 posted 05/12/10 3:09pm

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My HS used to lie about players' addresses all the time. life is not fair, that's something they need to teach in school smile
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Reply #9 posted 05/16/10 2:02am

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Ya'll know he was probably fuckin' the high school girls too, right?
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Reply #10 posted 05/16/10 2:03am

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dseann said:

falloff falloff falloff Most sane people can't wait to get the fuck out of high school and this dumb ass seems to be in love with it.

Ole Sweat Hog Boom Boom Washington ass muthafucka lol
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Reply #11 posted 05/16/10 6:18pm

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bboy87 said:

Ya'll know he was probably fuckin' the high school girls too, right?

Rape charges pending.
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Reply #12 posted 05/17/10 7:08am

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bboy87 said:

dseann said:

falloff falloff falloff Most sane people can't wait to get the fuck out of high school and this dumb ass seems to be in love with it.

Ole Sweat Hog Boom Boom Washington ass muthafucka lol


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Reply #13 posted 05/20/10 1:30am

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Graycap23 said:

bboy87 said:

Ya'll know he was probably fuckin' the high school girls too, right?

Rape charges pending.

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Reply #14 posted 06/08/10 6:09am

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Montimere indicted for sexual assault

Email Print Comments108 ESPN.com news services An Ector County, Texas grand jury indicted Guerdwich Montimere, a 22-year-old man accused of posing as a high school student and basketball star in West Texas, on five felony counts on Monday. Montimere The grand jury returned two indictments against Montimere. The first contained two counts of sexual assault of a child. Montimere was arrested on May 14 after a 16-year-old girl in Odessa told police and school district officials she had sex with him at a home in August when she thought he was 15-year-old Jerry Joseph. http://sports.espn.go.com...id=5262215
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Reply #15 posted 06/08/10 9:36am

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Graycap23 said:

Montimere indicted for sexual assault

Email Print Comments108 ESPN.com news services An Ector County, Texas grand jury indicted Guerdwich Montimere, a 22-year-old man accused of posing as a high school student and basketball star in West Texas, on five felony counts on Monday. Montimere The grand jury returned two indictments against Montimere. The first contained two counts of sexual assault of a child. Montimere was arrested on May 14 after a 16-year-old girl in Odessa told police and school district officials she had sex with him at a home in August when she thought he was 15-year-old Jerry Joseph. http://sports.espn.go.com...id=5262215

That is so fucked up. It's bad enough this dude felt he needed to lie about his age and living status just to get into high school but to also take the lie further and start sleeping with teens is just ridiculous. Not sure how I feel about the sex assault charges. This girl willingly had sex with him but now that she found out he was 22 and not 15 (where in the world do 22 year olds look 15 anyway) she wants to rat him out to the cops? Talk about some ass backward morality. He should do whatever minimal prison sentence is required for falsifying state documents (school records) and that's all. I feel bad for the girl that felt she was deceived but come on....you're a 16 year old dropping your panties for a male jock you think is 15? She sounds just as shady as Joseph aka Guerdwich aka haitian hustler.

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Reply #16 posted 06/08/10 11:37am

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It illustrates why we need to have better ways to determine a persons Identity.

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Reply #17 posted 06/08/10 11:39am

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DesireeNevermind said:

Graycap23 said:

Montimere indicted for sexual assault

Email Print Comments108 ESPN.com news services An Ector County, Texas grand jury indicted Guerdwich Montimere, a 22-year-old man accused of posing as a high school student and basketball star in West Texas, on five felony counts on Monday. Montimere The grand jury returned two indictments against Montimere. The first contained two counts of sexual assault of a child. Montimere was arrested on May 14 after a 16-year-old girl in Odessa told police and school district officials she had sex with him at a home in August when she thought he was 15-year-old Jerry Joseph. http://sports.espn.go.com...id=5262215

That is so fucked up. It's bad enough this dude felt he needed to lie about his age and living status just to get into high school but to also take the lie further and start sleeping with teens is just ridiculous. Not sure how I feel about the sex assault charges. This girl willingly had sex with him but now that she found out he was 22 and not 15 (where in the world do 22 year olds look 15 anyway) she wants to rat him out to the cops? Talk about some ass backward morality. He should do whatever minimal prison sentence is required for falsifying state documents (school records) and that's all. I feel bad for the girl that felt she was deceived but come on....you're a 16 year old dropping your panties for a male jock you think is 15? She sounds just as shady as Joseph aka Guerdwich aka haitian hustler.

so he rapes her and she is a rat for reporting it?

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Reply #18 posted 06/08/10 11:53am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

DesireeNevermind said:

That is so fucked up. It's bad enough this dude felt he needed to lie about his age and living status just to get into high school but to also take the lie further and start sleeping with teens is just ridiculous. Not sure how I feel about the sex assault charges. This girl willingly had sex with him but now that she found out he was 22 and not 15 (where in the world do 22 year olds look 15 anyway) she wants to rat him out to the cops? Talk about some ass backward morality. He should do whatever minimal prison sentence is required for falsifying state documents (school records) and that's all. I feel bad for the girl that felt she was deceived but come on....you're a 16 year old dropping your panties for a male jock you think is 15? She sounds just as shady as Joseph aka Guerdwich aka haitian hustler.

so he rapes her and she is a rat for reporting it?

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Reply #19 posted 06/08/10 12:04pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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Graycap23 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so he rapes her and she is a rat for reporting it?

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do you not like the use of the word RAPE? It is not rape for a 15 year old to have sex with girl his age. But if one of them is 22 and the other is undert 17 that is RAPE. He knowly raped her.

It is comparable to if she had been druged and did not find out she had been raped until a year later.

IU would like to see thge source to support that she 'willingly had sex with him'

And if you can, then show the law that says a 15/16 year old can legaly concent to have sex with a person that is 22.

But I will tell you thing, no matter what she did want to do, she can not concent to sex with him.

It was rape.

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Reply #20 posted 06/08/10 12:09pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Graycap23 said:

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do you not like the use of the word RAPE? It is not rape for a 15 year old to have sex with girl his age. But if one of them is 22 and the other is undert 17 that is RAPE. He knowly raped her.

It is comparable to if she had been druged and did not find out she had been raped until a year later.

IU would like to see thge source to support that she 'willingly had sex with him'

And if you can, then show the law that says a 15/16 year old can legaly concent to have sex with a person that is 22.

But I will tell you thing, no matter what she did want to do, she can not concent to sex with him.

It was rape.

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In a legal sense u are 100% correct.

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Reply #21 posted 06/08/10 12:13pm

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Graycap23 said:

In a legal sense u are 100% correct.

lets ask the qustion: can we be sure that she would have had sex with him if she knew he was 22?

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Reply #22 posted 06/08/10 12:16pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Graycap23 said:

In a legal sense u are 100% correct.

lets ask the qustion: can we be sure that she would have had sex with him if she knew he was 22?

The guy should pay 4 his crime.

As 2 the answer 2 your question, ONLY she can respond.

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Reply #23 posted 06/08/10 12:20pm

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Graycap23 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

lets ask the qustion: can we be sure that she would have had sex with him if she knew he was 22?

The guy should pay 4 his crime.

As 2 the answer 2 your question, ONLY she can respond.

I think she has responded to it by reporting it.

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Reply #24 posted 06/08/10 12:23pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Graycap23 said:

The guy should pay 4 his crime.

As 2 the answer 2 your question, ONLY she can respond.

I think she has responded to it by reporting it.

Her report was age based..............

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Reply #25 posted 06/08/10 12:24pm

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Graycap23 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so he rapes her and she is a rat for reporting it?

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ya know?

Did he force this girl? Sounds like she willingly laid with him then got mad when she found out he wasn't a year younger than her. I wouldn't necessarily classify that as rape unless he flat out seduced her knowing full well she was under age. In that scenario it is statutory rape not a sexual assault. Sexual assault implies a situation where one person is forced or a person who is unaware or incapable of consenting to a sex act. Meh...what do I know. There is such a difference between the law and what's right and sensible.

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Graycap23 said:

In a legal sense u are 100% correct.

lets ask the qustion: can we be sure that she would have had sex with him if she knew he was 22?

hmmm would she have had sex with him if he wasn't a star athlete?

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Reply #27 posted 06/08/10 1:16pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Graycap23 said:

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ya know?

Did he force this girl? Sounds like she willingly laid with him then got mad when she found out he wasn't a year younger than her. I wouldn't necessarily classify that as rape unless he flat out seduced her knowing full well she was under age. In that scenario it is statutory rape not a sexual assault. Sexual assault implies a situation where one person is forced or a person who is unaware or incapable of consenting to a sex act. Meh...what do I know. There is such a difference between the law and what's right and sensible.

Force is not needed for rape. Did she consent to have sex? NO. She can not consent to have sex with him. So her willingness is not important. If your 15 year old daughter said she wanted to have sex with a 40 year old would you approve? His age be it 22 or 102 make no legal difference, nor does that she was lied to about his age. Now if she lied to him, I would have some sympathy. But he is the one that lied not her. And I am not going to victim blame.

As far as the semantics of rape, statutory rape, or assault, I do not care what you call it he ought to go to prison for 20 years for it and then be deported.

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Reply #28 posted 06/08/10 1:17pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

lets ask the qustion: can we be sure that she would have had sex with him if she knew he was 22?

hmmm would she have had sex with him if he wasn't a star athlete?

if he had not lied about his age would be be one?

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

DesireeNevermind said:

ya know?

Did he force this girl? Sounds like she willingly laid with him then got mad when she found out he wasn't a year younger than her. I wouldn't necessarily classify that as rape unless he flat out seduced her knowing full well she was under age. In that scenario it is statutory rape not a sexual assault. Sexual assault implies a situation where one person is forced or a person who is unaware or incapable of consenting to a sex act. Meh...what do I know. There is such a difference between the law and what's right and sensible.

Force is not needed for rape. Did she consent to have sex? NO. She can not consent to have sex with him. So her willingness is not important. If your 15 year old daughter said she wanted to have sex with a 40 year old would you approve? His age be it 22 or 102 make no legal difference, nor does that she was lied to about his age. Now if she lied to him, I would have some sympathy. But he is the one that lied not her. And I am not going to victim blame.

As far as the semantics of rape, statutory rape, or assault, I do not care what you call it he ought to go to prison for 20 years for it and then be deported.

I agree that he should be deported but 20 years in prison? Hell no. I hate rapists but given this scenario I cannot include him in the same category as say those green bay packers players accused of sexual assault or even that mary kay letourneau (sp), the teacher that seduced her student had his kid and married him.

If this Guerdwich fellow had really been 15, he would not be in jail and neither would she as they would have both been minors having consentual sex. Since he is 22 and she didn't like that he was 22, or somebody else perhaps didn't like it, he gets the rape charge added. Frankly I think it's a bit of a set up. There is probably no harsh punishment for impersonating a high schooler and leading your team to the play offs. What's happened here is sheer embarassment so they had to find something more dirty and sticky and indeed criminal. They get this teen girl who says she had sex with him and sex with a minor even though said minor consents is illegal. My argument is that what happened between this dude and his 16 year old booty call should have a different defintion other than rape. If we're going to call sex between two consenting persons, one of whom tells a lie about who they/where they came from/how old they are, then hell everybody has been raped at least once in their lives.

And before we say she couldn't consent to sex simply because she was 16...what if she had committed murder? Her age would probably be moot. She could be charged as an adult. Why is it nonconsentual when it involves sex but consentual when it involves every other type of illegal action like drugs, murder, speeding, stealing or jay walking? I don't want to eliminate the law of statutory rape mind you but I just think that for this particular situation...it's bullshit. They just want to humuliate and punish this dude for making asses out of them.

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If I had a 15 year old daughter stupid and whorish enough to want to sex up a 40 year old man I'd probably have her committed to a mental institution or at least beat her ass.

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