A day after dashing Spanish bullfighter Julio Aparicio showed his dominance by cutting the ears off two vanquished bulls, one of their bovine
brothers got revenge by gruesomely impaling the matador through his throat and out his mouth.

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hooray for the bull
this 'sport' is an atrocity and should be banned

Sad that they kill these animals.

That will teach him a lesson. I'm glad that he's alive, of course, but seriously, matadores are cold blooded assassins, I don't feel sorry when one of them gets gored...

Tit for tat ... fucker

Too bad the bull didn't kill his ass.

That is horrible!!! The poor man got it through the face/jaw and the bull is bleeding heavily. I've never understood the appeal of this sport nor that whole running with the bulls nonsense.

omg

good for the bull. the graphic part is what they did to the bull! at least that man made the choice.

Asshole deserved it.

yay for the bull!

ban this horrendous crap.

JoeTyler said:

not me.

Damn.....

Awful, senseless disrespect for life all the way around. I'm glad that idiot survived; anyone know if they allowed the bull to live?

Ron made me look at a series of graphic pics on this today. I still haven't had the balls to watch the video.
I still can't get the visual or the thought of what it must have felt like to have that go through your jaw and out yo mouth.

What pissed me off most was hearing that they put the bull down, because I guess...bad bad bull. WTF is wrong with humans???

johnart said:

That's ridiculous.

This event ought to be banned.

Lammastide said:

I agree. I just don't get its appeal.

OK, I think this should definitely be banned.

But I find the people's attitudes about how the matador deserved this a bit extreme. They are raised to think this is ok much like we're raised to think our giant torture prisons for livestock is ok, because eating meat is what we do. A chicken, pig, or cow meets it's demise over a much more protracted, miserable, existence and not much less violently before appearing on yours or your pet's dinner plates/bowls.

And they club seals yearly in Canada and whale hunting is still a sport in some European countries (and Japan).

I'm not apologizing for Bull fighting---like I said, it should be banned. It's barbaric. I just think we tend throw stones from glass houses.

TheVoid said:

I imagine the difference in people's minds is bullfighting serves only a leisure function, while all the other animal killing you mentioned is attached to some utility (essentially unnecessary, I may agree, but a utility nonetheless).

I think you raise an interesting point about cultural blinders, though, that we all should consider.
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Lammastide said:

So does hunting and fishing--I don't buy that "but we eat our kill" nonsense.

TheVoid said:

You know I love you but I have to disagree with thinking that the opinion that the matador "had it coming" attitude is extreme.

If you willingly step into a ring/arena with an animal with the intention of bringing it down or killing it for the amusement of hundreds of cheering adoring fans...you get what you had coming to you when the intended victim turns the tables on your ass. Sorry.

johnart said:

It's not that I feel sorry for him.
I don't.


It's the tone of people's posts--wishing this on another person.

It would be different if he ran a dog fighting ring in the states or a cock fighting ring in the states---it's not socially acceptable here. You have to on the fringes to partake in that sport.

But in Spain, this guy grew up raised with a different mentality--I don't agree with it. But it's not like he's a criminal. He's a product of his atmosphere--Certainly I don't want him doing that.

It's hard for me to explain where I'm coming from. But I just think people are being terribly judgmental.

I find the entire thing more horrific and sad than anything else.

TheVoid said:

Believe me, neither do I for the most part. But at least there's room for that rationalization. Bullfighting doesn't even pretend to be anything but useless, gruesome killing.

I think if there's any hope of people en masse gradually changing attitudes about the sanctity of animals' lives, the naked egregiousness of something like bullfighting might serve as the eye opener. If there's no sympathy to be found there, there's definitely none to be found in killing wherefrom people get food, leathers, furs, oils and any amount of other crap they assume they need.

Lammastide said:

I understand.


Americans don't just rationalize. We spin.

We have a death penalty. Spain doesn't. It's not like they can't bite back at us.

I'm not apologizing for bull fighting, again. I just tend to listen to Americans get high horsey and roll my eyes.

TheVoid said:

I get where you're going, (sometimes we get carried away and high and mighty with our own cultural beliefs of what is or isn't considered acceptable) but this is pretty clear cut to me. It's violent, unfair to the animal and totally gross. When I was a kid in P.R. cock fighting was still part of the culture (I don't know how prevalent it is today). It was still gross.

Culture can only take actions so far. In how many threads have we (you and I and others) condemned stoning of women?? At least a few, I think. That is something that people also grow up with and is culturally "acceptable" in certain cultures.

johnart said:

Thanks, boo. I see where you're coming from.

Except:
Are you admitting I'm a little bit right?

I mean, does this mean I win or not? I'm confused.
It'll greatly determine what my next post is going to be like.

Did I win this argument? let me know!!!

TheVoid said:

I kinda agree with you in part, but not in the greater picture. So, no dumbass you didn't win this argument.

You're still totally doable and a funny gal.
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johnart said:

That's not how I see things.

I honestly think that I've defeated you and Lammastide in one fell swoop.

Because, I'm a good judge of the situation. I see things. I know things.

TheVoid said:

You need to be medicated. Most of the org knows this, but we love you unconditionally.