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Reply #30 posted 05/17/10 3:20pm

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bluesbaby said:

and before someone makes this a porno...

I really, really am over church. Really. What makes people think they can treat others like shit one day, and still go into worship, thanking God for who THEY are?


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Reply #31 posted 05/17/10 3:25pm

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Whenever two shall gather...

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I know EXACTLY how you feel Blues. I'm so sorry you're having to experience this. It's awful.
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Reply #32 posted 05/17/10 3:55pm

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Nothinbutjoy said:

Whenever two shall gather...

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And there you have it. THAT is church. Let it happen where it will... and let the self-righteous pretenders destroy themselves.

I hope you find a fitting faith community soon, bluesbaby. Clearly we've all some work to do. hug
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #33 posted 05/17/10 3:56pm

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You can call me on Sundays and minister to me, bluesy. hug

My oldest sister and I just had this very same conversation half an hour ago. I will never, ever understand how some people can claim to love God and then turn around and do and say some of the most hateful, hate-filled stuff in the world. Then, they want to turn around and use God as a get out of hell free card.

I love you bluesy and you will find the right place for you. biggrin
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Reply #34 posted 05/17/10 6:07pm

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bluesbaby said:




I am still ministry minded..but the people in the church are hateful...hurtful. I know that isn't with every church...but I just left a toxic one, and I am not subjecting myself or my family to that again. So, if I do some sort of ministry, it won't be in a church. I have the serious sads...some stuff just happened, obviously, and I just have to get it out.

I know the feeling, but all churches aren't the same. Some, but very very few have sincere people there who are positive and uplifting. Most churches have people who are judgemental and hypocritical. Just leave that one and find another one. hug

The guest minister at my church said something very interesting:

"Religious people are too busy trying not to go to hell, but the spiritual people are the ones who have already been to hell, and are living to tell their testimony to someone else to help them".

I thought that was a powerful message. I find that most religious people love to hide their past like they are so perfect and ready to bewilder and shame the next person for their faults. I left the church my family attends because there was too much "religion" and not enough "spirituality". So I found a church that had just what I was looking for and I'm very happy that I made that move. And believe it or not, instead of supporting me on my decision, my family was upset with me for "abandoning" their church (no matter how awful it was) but at the end of the day, you have to do what's best for you and not care about what other people think.
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A whole bunch of people hide their dirt behind a veil of sanctimony and false self righteousness. Without exception, the extremely religious/fundamentalist people that I've met are all covertly hateful and intolerant while pretending to be all sweetness and light.

I was also raised in church and still attend from time to time. Luckily I had the benefit of encountering some authentically spiritual people in my life who helped me to gain a lot of insight into "churchianity mentality" and become more centered in the spirit.

Be encouraged Bluesy... hug
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #35 posted 05/18/10 7:01am

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well where do the non-christian folks hide their junk???
THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]

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Reply #36 posted 05/18/10 9:22am

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Vendetta1 said:

You can call me on Sundays and minister to me, bluesy. hug

My oldest sister and I just had this very same conversation half an hour ago. I will never, ever understand how some people can claim to love God and then turn around and do and say some of the most hateful, hate-filled stuff in the world. Then, they want to turn around and use God as a get out of hell free card.

I love you bluesy and you will find the right place for you. biggrin


I love you too, Ivy hug thank you.....oddly, the Org is always a sacred space in the middle of irreverence, that one can find the best of spirits.
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Reply #37 posted 05/18/10 9:22am

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Nothinbutjoy said:

Whenever two shall gather...

hug

I know EXACTLY how you feel Blues. I'm so sorry you're having to experience this. It's awful.


the third shall make someone take sides LOL!
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Reply #38 posted 05/18/10 12:49pm

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bluesbaby said:

Nothinbutjoy said:

Whenever two shall gather...

hug

I know EXACTLY how you feel Blues. I'm so sorry you're having to experience this. It's awful.


the third shall make someone take sides LOL!



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