http://www.youtube.com/wa...0fYK3PqIWY

I was watching THIS^ on an episode of TYT. And I agree with Ana, those girls are too young for THAT kind of dancing.

But the real controversy are those outfits!

Opinions please.
[Edited 5/12/10 23:49pm]

too young for that

they were good dancers though and cute

Okay, that's just too damned much.

Technical perfection aside that movement is simply too sexually suggestive for their age range, and those burlesque dancer outfits were layers of wrong as well.

...and this is coming from a chick who was in dance school by age 6 and wore dance leotards, tap shoes, the whole bit on into her teens...but this is too much. Now when I was a mid-teenager, I will admit that in the black community it was very faddish for certain girls to lip sync the Vanity/Applonia 6 songs at community talent shows (and even then I was like, why is your mother letting you onstage in your draws? )

..yeah, there needs to be a cut-off age for girls that want to do the beyonce uh-oh dance, for real.

they danced better than Beyonce though.....

I think it's sad we live in a world where people super-sexualize their own children
I think it's sad we live in a world that you have to worry that they are grown people thinking sexual thoughts about children

and the outfits definitely were all wrong!

I think the dance doesnt bother me as much as the outfits... They are way to young for either!!

children should NOT roll their hips like that!!! Are these parents STUPID?? And then people wonder why there are creepy pedophiles...

let kids be kids gatdammit!!

nobody gets more upset about shit like this than me...but, if you take away the outfits, the dancing isn't sexually suggestive, it's just dancing and they were very good...but the girls could have danced just as well in age appropriate attire...

their parents probably let them wear short shorts with words wrote across the ass too...

so is this too young too?



however, check the rest of the videos from that competition and from previous years. it's a long list of children (girls) wearing revealing clothing and dancing suggestively. Not just ballet or jazz dancing.

I agree that the problem might not exactly be the moves, but the costumes and presentation put it over the top.

Then again, should children not be allowed to belly dance too?

The news team seems fake

a shop over here (primark) got into trouble recently for selling padded bra's aimed at 7 year old girls

Ottensen said:

They actually let their daughters dress up like Vanity 6?!? Oh hell no!

BklynBabe said:

Exactly.

kpowers said:

It's TYT (TheYoungTurks). Their YouTube channel has been up for 4 years now.

I posted the original video on the Lawrence Taylor thread because it reminded of how young girls are easily exploited even if it's unintentionally.

I know some people think they're just dancing and imitating what they've seen Beyonce doing for a talent show but would a pervert that preys on children see it that way?

Hell no! In the mind of a sick individual that preys on children, they're dressed like some grown ass women and they're dancing like some grown ass women, so what else can they do that only some grown ass women should be doing?

The sad part is the girls can really dance! They're very talented but whoever came up with the costumes and the choreography cheapened their natural ability for a disturbing edge those girls didn't need.
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thejason said:

Watch out now...you like little girls acting like sex objects...admit it!!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I'll just say this:

Perverts don't need the girls to dress this way to be the perverts they are.

Dauphin said:

Well, that's exactly it.

It was gross, and highly inappropriate.

I absolutely LOATHE the sexualization of young children.


I hate, hate, hate, HHHHAAAAATTTTTEEEE it.


And complicit in it all are the dumbass parents who buy clothes for their
kids to dress up like hookers. It's not like these spoiled ass kids are
buying the clothes with their own money--they don't mow their own lawns
anymore let alone other people's lawns for money.


SHIT.

JustErin said:

Exactly. I read this study about paedophiles basically saying that children's clothing catalogues were perceived as sexual to certain types of them. So I'd be more concerned about the over-sexualisation of children and any detrimental effect it has on their childhood rather than encouraging perverts.

Also, I wonder why no one organising the show thought that dressing kids up as little ho's was morally questionable? Or that it was even necessary? I mean they could have just gone for the black leotard like Beyonce wears in the actual video; at least that's more age appropriate!

Dauphin said:

Oh I know! Which is why I cannot understand for the life of me, how anyone could think their attire AND the over-sexualization of their performance is in any kind of way appropriate.

My concern here isn't about the perverts because let's be real about it for a moment...a miserable ass pervert can get aroused looking at a baby in a diaper!

My concern IS for those little girls and how irresponsible the adults in their lives are/were...just for the sake of winning a competition.

When my daughter was 16 years old, she was in a talent showcase at the new high school, in the suburban neighborhood, we'd just moved to. Where she wanted more than anything just to fit in because we were from the 'hood. Her and her new friends were all excited and winning the competition was the goal. When I saw the outfits they were planning on wearing, I dropped by the school to pick her up unannounced and when I saw the rehearsal, I pitched a motherfucking fit! I thought I was witnessing a pre-show at Watts Mozambique, folks from Detroit KNOW exactly what I'm talking about.

I talked to the dance instructor, the Principal and some of the other parents of the dancers about it and they said, "It's just dancing......you are overreacting..." but there was no way in hell, as long as I had breath in me that I was having MY child put on display like that, so I pulled her out of the show! She was mad as fucking hell at me and would not speak to me for weeks and I did not give a damn, either!

We still went to the show and when responsible adults saw what I'd seen...there was all kinds of hell that broke out! The curtain was closed midway through their performance. Yet, those young women were 16 and 17 years old.

I'm all for freedom of expression and winning competitions but not if the price to be paid for it, is the sexual exploitation of young girls and that is what this situation IS...period!

And for the record...I'm just as appalled...as I am now...about young girls in Beauty Pageants! Or has everyone forgotten poor little JonBenet Ramsey!





Yes, I played the JonBenet card! Damn motherfucking right, I did so because she and MY daughter would be the EXACT same age right now! So FUCK...ALL the dumb shit...I AM speaking on this...straight from MY heart...as a MOTHER!
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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

as if they said to you 'it's only dancing'
dancing and sexual dancing are different things..hence the name
im pretty sure if a 40 year old guy was grinding up against one of thier daughters they wouldn't call it 'just dancing'

Zinzi said:

There is no "AS IF" to it! They did!

There were no males in the routine at all. Just the girls...gyrating, moving and shaking...far more than what is necessary for a dance!

Dauphin said:

I agree with this of course.
A pervert could get his rocks off thumbing through the JC Penny catalogue if he wanted.


But to me, it's not about perverts molesting children. It's about the kids themselves emulating grownups in a sexual way long before they understand the ramifications of sexual behavior.

I feel the same way about kids being allowed to own toy guns honestly--they just don't get the ramifications of it at ages 7. They shouldn't be pretending to shoot people up.


I'm not looking to make kids lives more boring. I just think that far too often, adults think it's cute when kids emulate certain 'bad boy/bad girl' forms of adult behavior...and it's not cute....at all. Shit, it's not cute when some adults do it!


'to' to toy edit
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tinaz said:

Ditto.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

''as if'' is just a saying of speech
i wasn't calling you a liar
jesus

Zinzi said:

"As if..." is the beginning declaration of a question. So I thought you were questioning my statement and I responded as such.

Had I thought for a single moment that you were trying to call me a liar...trust me...my response would have addressed that...specifically...AND in no uncertain terms...un-apologetically!

And how old is too old for a grown woman to be doing the Beyonce Dance??

Dauphin said:

No and alcoholics don't need to be in a likka store to be the way they are, but it sure doesn't help any. This sexualizing (spelling?) of children doesn't help any. Furthermore after seeing it over and over again people become apathetic about it, it becomes the norm.
P.S. i heard it said that detectives and law officials who constantly have to view child porn as part of their assignment grow to kinda like it. Has anybody else heard this? if that's true then what you watch does affect you.