I don't watch college football but I have a question. Is Tebow an NFL qb? I watched a story of him changing his delivery style 4 the NFL combine. What a joke. U can't change how u play overnight in NON games. Any thoughts on this guy?

He's definitely a pro level douche.

tebow is one hell of an athlete...anybody that denies that just has it out for the guy...alot has been said about his delivery and how it will translate at the pro level...I can see where his holding the ball so low would be easy pickings for a top notch defense...he did play in the SEC against some of the fastest defenses in the nation and fared well...it remains to be seen...I do think that he'll have a lengthy NFL career whether it be a QB or another position...the guy has a great work ethic...the motherfucker knows the game and can play the game...he's a coaches wet dream...

it's interesting that the some of the same sports talking heads that were shoving him down our throats for the last 2 ncaa seasons are the ones that now say he can't make it...again, I'll save my judgement until we get a chance to see him perform...

all that being said, nobody has enjoyed poking fun at his ass more than I have...he's an easy target...and when he cried after losing to Alabama in the SEC title game last year, I fully admit I relished in it...

Mars23 said:

Why a douche?

Mars23 said:

WHAT?!?

He's one of the most positive, polite people in sports.

He'll get a shot to play QB but I'm not sure he'll be successful. I know he had better passing stats than any of the other QBs taken, but that was from the spread. It's a whole 'nother game when you have to take a 7-step drop.

However, I would never bet against Tebow overcoming any challenge.

RodeoSchro said:

Poiple said:

I suppose douche nozzle would have also been acceptable.

He won't be as quickly as Clausen or Bradford. He has to change
some of his mechanics. It remains to be seen. I certainly think
the Donkeys reached in the first round to take him. He also won't
be able to run through lb's in the NFL like he did in college.
Ray Lewis is going on 45 and i'd still take him in a one on one
matchup against Tebow.

Graycap23 said:

He also never took a snap under center at Florida.
I say he's not a NFL QB.
He won't be playing this coming season . . .

thejason said:

1. Yes, he's a hell of an athlete.
2.He's not a coaches wet dream in the NFL. He was in college though.
3. He can't currently make it in the NFL. The NFL is much faster than NCAA and there are no cupcakes on the schedule, nor can you schedule your team, so he gets it easy early.
4. I thought this was your judgment.
5. I loved it when he lost to Alabama because he acted as if it was God's will that he have an undefeated season and a national championship.

thejason said:

I would . . . .

SUPRMAN said:

yes he did...not many but he did take snaps under center

SUPRMAN said:

ok, we agree...

I thought most coaches, pro or otherwise, loved a player with great athletic ability and great work ethic, but I may be wrong...oh yeah, you already told me that I was....

how do you know until you see him attempt it?? he's no different than anybody else drafted, he may adjust well, he may not
and I love the notion that the NFL is so much more elite than the division it drafts from...I know it's a professional league with premiere athletes..but have you really watched some of those teams play??? let's get real, some of 'em plain suck

if the question is "Tebow: NFL QB or NOT?", then I'll save my judgement

I loved it too...but I dont really think he thought it was Gods will...I think it showed his love of and passion for the game...but he still looked like a snivelling crybaby...
[Edited 4/27/10 13:06pm]

Billy Blanks gives me the creeps.

I truly don't understand the negativity towards this guy's abilities. Didn't that sorry ass Vince Young get drafted AND win Rookie of the Year? What about all the hype surrounding Brady Quinn and Matt Leinart? Peyton Manning had a rep as a choker in college and is still a .500 QB in the NFL playoffs 11 years later.
Seriously. Tebow won a Heisman and TWO national championships. Why all they negativity for him while so many other ?uestionable ?uarterbacks get praise?

Not to mention, that shit is extremely hard on the knees. I fucking hate tebow.

Adisa said:

Vince Young was not questionable coming out of college.
Brady Quinn and Matt Leinart are NFL busts but were not in college. Leinart even won a Heisman and national championship. No one in the NFL seems to care though.
Tebow was not in an NFL style offense or with coaches prepping him for the NFL.

Adisa said:

Being good in college does not necessarily translate 2 the NFL. Charlie Ward did NOT even get drafted out of college.

SUPRMAN said:[quote]

Adisa said:

Depends on who you ask.


That remains to be determined.


He's not the first QB. And that's kind of irrelevant. Steve McNair was a late bloomer in the NFL type QB. Mike Vick's success has always been his legs. The techniques in QBing a skill that be adjusted just like any other position IMO. Didn't Jevon Kearse wreak havoc as DT even though he was an LB inc college.

Surely these are the reasons why's there's so much bias AGAINST Tim Tebow.

Graycap23 said:

We know this, but this doesn't explain all the negative bias towards Tim Tebow, esp. when so many other ?uestionable ?uarterbacks get nothing bt hype.

Tim Tebow was an outstanding college quarterback, but he will need a lot of work to make it as a quarterback in the NFL. My guess is that he will be working the third string and development squad exclusively during his rookie season. Even if Kyle Orton and Brady Quinn get hurt, I'd see Denver most likely picking up some washed up crappy quarterback before putting Tim Tebow out this season.

thejason said:

One thing's for certain; if Tim Tebow tries any of those jump passes on the goal line in the NFL, he's going to get killed. If not by any opposing linemen, then by his coaches.

Graycap23 said:

Can't use Charlie Ward as an example.
Charlie Ward told the NFL NOT to draft him that he would be playing pro basketball not pro football. He would have been drafted if he had not insisted that he would not be playing in the NFL.

Adisa said:[quote]

SUPRMAN said:

Do you think Quinn and Leinart are not busts?!!!
Just because they are still on NFL rosters doesn't mean they aren't a bust.
Neither came close to living up to expectations.
On the other hand, Tebow has low expectations and no indication that he can meet them. He's a first round QB which should be a franchise QB. He'll never be a franchise QB.

Graycap23 said:

Ward would have been drafted if he didn't insist on being drafted in the
first round. He was told by the 49ers or Chiefs(pending where Joe Montana was
at the time)can't remember that he would be drafted in the second round as
an understudy to Montana. For some reason,Ward was very arrogant and adamant
about not playing in the NFL unless he was drafted in the first round.
How the hell could you not wanna learn from Joe Montana?
His reward for his decision was a subpar career in the NBA playing
for the Knicks as a backup pg.

Adisa said:

I don't hate the guy. I think most college football fans were just sick
of the man crush on Tebow as though he was the only face of college football
particularly when you had other equally talented players. Hell Tebow wasn't
even the best player in his conference last year. Mark Ingram anyone?
Also Tebow was quite arrogant. See the Georgia game of 2008 when they ran
up the score against Georgia on purpose. Tebow was gleefully rubbing it in.
That's one reason why college football fans outside of Florida took delight
in seeing Alabama whup the Gators ass last season and seeing tears down
Tebow's face was just icing on the cake.
What about all the hype he got leading up to the draft which was okay
by me but how many times can you take hearing the same ole same ole
whichever team selects me I'M GONNA WORK HARD I'M GONNA WORK HARD I'M GONNA
WORK HARD.

SUPRMAN said:

Everything you said is a matter of opinion. and IMO NO ONE has produced a valid argument as to why Time Tebow (quote) can't or won't make it in the NFL when so many other ?uestionable ?uarterbacks get a pass.

phunkdaddy said:

Thank you! So you believe its all PERSONAL and NOT based on his actual abilities or lack thereof. But all the hype and press he received was based on his ABILITY.TO.PLAY.AND.WIN.AS.A.QB. To me it just sounds like people want him to fail in the pros and creating (unfounded) reasons as to why he will.

phunkdaddy said:

Then you had these Tebow dick-licker announcers who said we're all better off for knowing Tim Tebow. GTFO - they act like this fool walks on water or some shit. Don't forget the incident during the Wonderlic test, and it's no surprised some folks are tired of his act.

I PRAY he tries to run on the Raven defense - see how THAT goes.
[Edited 4/27/10 17:51pm]

Adisa said:

SUPRMAN said:

You're only because in your heart you know it's true. At least be like Uptowny and admit you just don't like the guy as a person. Nothing wrong with that. There have been and still are puh-lenty of high-profile athletes I can't stand, and their performance has NOTHING to do with it.