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PrintableNDRU said: JustErin said: It would be even more diappointing if they were all exactly like us. If that's the case, please make them all be really hot - no ugly aliens.  lucky for you, I think Klingons like rough sex!   | |
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XxAxX said: blackholes are constantly sucking things into them, entire galaxies, in fact. yet, they continue to remain in existence.... This is difficult to conceive of, though I guess it could be compared to a miniature precursor of the big bang where matter is just getting squashed under its own gravity. There is the theory that the universe will eventually stop expanding and start shrinking, until it is squashed into a single thing with so much pressure that it finally explodes again in another big bang. I tend to believe this theory. For that reason, I don't really believe in the "other side" of black holes. I think they're just really cramped quarters. My Legacy
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TheVoid said: SUPRMAN said: I agree that they experience time differently. People can also experience time differently from other people. But the experience doesn't affect the passage of time. I never said it did.  I didn't quote you, or state you stated anything.  I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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SUPRMAN said: TheVoid said: I never said it did. I didn't quote you, or state you stated anything. I didn't say that you did. | |
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TheVoid said: NDRU said: yes, but he also had Jane managing his investments You read the books!?!?!?!? 
Oh NDRU, you had me at 'hello' Hey! I've read them too! I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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SUPRMAN said: TheVoid said: You read the books!?!?!?!?
Oh NDRU, you had me at 'hello' Hey! I've read them too! I never said that you didn't! | |
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TheVoid said: NDRU said: I'm on #3 right nowXenocide is pretty good (are you following the original books or the ones that also follow Bean, the "Shadow of the Hegemen"?" I'm assuming you're following the original and reading Xenocide. I liked Xenocide. Children of the Mind I actually didn't like very much--too much going on in it. But, the 'bean' series which follows the ender series (even in timeline) are said to be just as good as book 1 and book2 (my favorite book was Speaker for the Dead--I've yet to read the ones about bean). YES! I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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XxAxX said: Efan said: Whether time exists on the physical level or not, would that really affect our ability to travel through it the way Hawking is suggesting? There are lots of things that don't "exist" in and of themselves in the universe, but they do "exist" in the sense that we use them as a measure or gauge. In that sense, we could make a trip through what we perceive as time, right?
i disagree with hawkings that time travel can somehow be accomplished through a 'wormhole' at the center of a black hole. imo, that makes no sense. a black hole, like it's opposite the supernova, is an annihilative environment. i doubt anyone could survive being sucked into that massive gravity sinkhole. but i've been thinking. imo time does not 'flow', nor 'move' nor actually exist. so, imo traveling through time is not possible. however change does exist. assuming that 'change' leaves "quantum tracks" in the universe (if only in the form of radiation emitted at the time of change?) maybe it could be possible to use a kind of 'quantum' leap to jump from one point in the track to another. assuming time does not exist, then everything that ever happened and everything that ever will happen are right here, right now. it might just be a matter of figuring out the how of leaping into a specific quantum track, where an event has either ocurred, or not occurred. okay. sorry, that's all i got  How does 'change' not equal time? Yesterday and tomorrow define time periods, no change is necessary for tomorrow to arrive other than the Earth rotating. Hours and minutes are artificial constructs because we have notfound a universal measure of time. It would probably be in greater increments than our days and years to be sure. I posit that every civilization in the universe has some measure of time. Distance exists only because we say it does. A 'foot' or 'meter' is just as abstract as an 'hour' or a 'day.' I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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uPtoWnNY said: SUPRMAN said: Hawking has already warned in his documentary that we should be very wary about making contact with beings from out there. "If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn't turn out very well for the Native Americans," he said in "Stephen Hawking's Universe."
I agree with this. I don't. This arrogant paranoia have always tickled the hell outta me. | |
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SUPRMAN said: XxAxX said: i disagree with hawkings that time travel can somehow be accomplished through a 'wormhole' at the center of a black hole. imo, that makes no sense. a black hole, like it's opposite the supernova, is an annihilative environment. i doubt anyone could survive being sucked into that massive gravity sinkhole. but i've been thinking. imo time does not 'flow', nor 'move' nor actually exist. so, imo traveling through time is not possible. however change does exist. assuming that 'change' leaves "quantum tracks" in the universe (if only in the form of radiation emitted at the time of change?) maybe it could be possible to use a kind of 'quantum' leap to jump from one point in the track to another. assuming time does not exist, then everything that ever happened and everything that ever will happen are right here, right now. it might just be a matter of figuring out the how of leaping into a specific quantum track, where an event has either ocurred, or not occurred. okay. sorry, that's all i got How does 'change' not equal time? Yesterday and tomorrow define time periods, no change is necessary for tomorrow to arrive other than the Earth rotating. Hours and minutes are artificial constructs because we have notfound a universal measure of time. It would probably be in greater increments than our days and years to be sure. I posit that every civilization in the universe has some measure of time. Distance exists only because we say it does. A 'foot' or 'meter' is just as abstract as an 'hour' or a 'day.' since this is theoretical, i don't feel the need to debate my opinion with yas  | |
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NDRU said: XxAxX said: blackholes are constantly sucking things into them, entire galaxies, in fact. yet, they continue to remain in existence.... This is difficult to conceive of, though I guess it could be compared to a miniature precursor of the big bang where matter is just getting squashed under its own gravity. There is the theory that the universe will eventually stop expanding and start shrinking, until it is squashed into a single thing with so much pressure that it finally explodes again in another big bang. I tend to believe this theory. For that reason, I don't really believe in the "other side" of black holes. I think they're just really cramped quarters.  sometimes i wonder if the universe, and everything in it, from tiny particles to galaxies, is/are all occurring at once in a single, blinding flash. supernova and blackhole. those of us 'on the inside' perceive the changes occurring to be spread over a period of 'time'. those standing on the outside might perceive it all as a single moment. really, i dunno | |
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