I wanted to talk about Thailand.



If I wanted to talk about anything else I wouldn't have moved here.






“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”



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That mawfucka gittin some ASS

Fauxie said:

^^^ SO much better than

“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”

Anyway, I'm right here

Fauxie said:

OK, I really need to know.

Why do you feel your bum is fuckable?


And how the hell do you know Thai men have small penises? How?
They never show their ding dongs--they're painfully shy about
flashing meat. So how?








“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”--The Buddha
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TheVoid said:

My sig isn't saying my bum is fuckable.

As for your second question, they show them to me. You must be doing something wrong.

Fauxie said:

My experience is medium to small. Only one large.

But they act like that shit is medusa and needs to be hidden else it turn you to stone.









“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”--The Buddha
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TheVoid said:

Are Thai men really that conservative? I mean, they're all a tad bit gay by default, no? I thought we'd established that already. I would've thought they'd be quite game, so to speak.

I'm basing my views mainly on cheap Thai porn shown in hotel rooms around Soi Nana.

Fauxie said:

Yes.

They're not sexually inhibited by any stretch of the imagination. They're not conservative with showing skin, and are often painfully aware of how beautiful they appear to western eyes.

The strangest thing is that before coming here I had little interest in Asian men, finding them quite feminine compared to Western men (my preference has always been cuban looking types when it came to men).
However after only a few short months here, after observing Thais, Chinese and other types of Asians, I "get" what it means to be an attractive Asian man. I get what is truly feminine and what is just inherently non-macho in western eyes.
Bottom line: Thai/Asian men are some of the most ridiculously beautiful, elegant, and charming men on earth. This entire country is overrun with disproportionately beautiful people.
It's sickening how good looking most of the people are here!

I've always wondered why Asians tend to find westerners 'less goodlooking' than themselves, being that my eyes have always been trained on western beauty. And though I dissagree with them that farrangs are largely unattractive, I 'get' their point of view now even if I don't agree. Asians are goodamned hot.

I mean, look at this fine piece of ass: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.n...3562_n.jpg


JAYSUS CHRIST!
That guy in the link above is now what I consider to be the ideal looking male specimen. I am addicted to men that look like that.
And I'm finding that I'm becoming more attracted to younger men here (in their 20's) where I never cared for them before. It doesn't help that men that age often think I'm only in my upper 20's.

But yeah, they're uninhibited sexually and are not self-concious about showing skin....but whether, Chinese, Korean, or Thai--they're very inhibited about showing their penises. Only the Japanese (I am told) are not.


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“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”--The Buddha

So how's your studying Thai going? I keep saying I'm going to buy some books and learn to read and write but still haven't done it.

I am going to get a book I've seen next time I go to Central though, to learn some more formal phrases, just so I've got them in my locker.

Fauxie said:

It's very slow.
I put it on the backburner the last few weeks, and oddly enough it's funny you should ask because I started again this morning.

I'm having the relearned much of the alphabet.


I still don't have the rules for pronunciation memorized. For example, they divide their consonants into lower class, middle class, and upperclass, which in combination with vowels helps you determine a syllable's tone when no tone marker is present.
This is largely whey they assign tones to English words (because the Thai phonetic alphabet when spelling the English word will thus determine what tone to assign the syllable). This is why "computer" becomes "CUM PEW TUUUUUGGGGGHH (stressed middle tone)", etc. etc.

So yeah, I'm relearning some of the alphabet I forgot. Trying to train myself to hit the tones correctly--the only one I've mastered is falling tone

TheVoid said:

Ah, so that's why all the 'hah-REEEEE poh-DERRRRR' pronunciations. I wish they'd learn that our use of stress in English is important too if you're not to sound completely ridiculous.

I've never learnt the tones. I don't think I ever will. I'm figuring if I hear a phrase enough, so that it's obviously something useful I'll want to know, I'll pick it up automatically. I guess if I ever get into reading and writing I'll have no choice. I'm totally comfortable speaking the language though. I just want to be able to better switch between colloquial stuff and more formal stuff depending on the situation.

Fauxie said:

The problem is that in English, we use all 5 of the Thai tones, though the high tone is used very seldom.

But the falling and rising tones are used all the time in English.

The falling tone is used emphatically in statements like "No!" and "don't!"
And the rising tone is used in questions like, "Really?" or "why?"


But they're not just ornamental like most English speakers will say.
Often they are essential to understanding what is said.

Klai (far away) and Klai (nearby) are identical except the tone.
I spent 30 minutes trying to hear and say the difference between the two.

But in English we have ridiculous words like "refuse" and "refuse" spelt
identical, but one means "to say no" and the other "rubbish" and
only by the pronunciation are they identified. At least in Thai
Klai and Klai are spelt differently due to the tones they take.


And as far as them sounding ridiculous, well English is a ridiculous
language isn't it?

I mean why should one say:

To be or not to be

when he could just

be or not?

We assign ridiculous layers of nuance to a language which only points out
how out of touch we are with each other.

Thais 'get' and understand each other inherently and intrinsictly.

Thus a full conversation can be.

Hungry, yes ?
Yes, go paragon?
Yes, go now.
Ok, good.
Bus station where?
Bus station road Sumkumvit, soi 53.
Yes sir. Good.
OK, we go.

It would take 2 paragraphs for English speakers to say the same
thing because we don't allow our language to be inferred.
We don't 'get' each other.








“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”--The Buddha
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So. No cookies here, I suppose?

Just beer.

TheVoid said:

Your logic is not flawless, I am sure however, that your technique is.

TheVoid said:

Thai is wonderfully economical, no doubt about it. It's why I think it's a language that really encourages a learner's attempts to speak it. Plus Thais in general have a very positive attitude towards foreigners trying to speak Thai, and make them feel all warm and fuzzy inside when they give it a go.

'Klai' and 'klai' is a classic. I always tend to say the 'far away' one twice and the 'nearby' one only once, and somehow this has made the two more different in my mind and allowed me to remember the tones correctly. I think it's funny that unlike the many meanings of 'mai' where you might end up saying a different word to what you intended (and thus it might obviously be nonsense to the listener given the context), with 'klai' you could actually say the exact opposite to what you intended in an otherwise flawless sentence.

Oh, I should add that since I've been here I've repeatedly been told to "pai klai klai leu pai!", so that's probably influential in all this.

HamsterHuey said:

I'm still on my second bottle. I fell asleep for two hours and now it's a bit flat.

Fauxie said:

what's that. get lost far far away???

ZombieKitten said:

Exactly!

Though the way it's said is more like "pai k-klai leu BAH!"

In fact, 'pai', or 'go', is often shortened to a breathy 'bah'. Like if you and your mate are going somewhere and they're faffing about and you're getting impatient. "bah!"... let's go! Or upon finishing what you're doing, to signal it's done and you can go... "bah!"

Fauxie said:

bah

TheVoid said:

I think both ways have their merits, but there's beauty in the poetry of the "unneccesary" language. Look at Italian. Not economical at ALL. It's all romantic and embellished and because there were so many dialects in all the city-states long, long ago they eventually set out to write a dictionary to unite to a common language and based it on great literary classics. In that sense, words were chosen specifically because they were beautiful.

ZombieKitten said:

nom pen nom

Fauxie said:

om nom nom

CarrieMpls said:

OMG, I could see a Thai person speaking Italian or latin and just murdering that shit.

I can see it now:

Sanctus, Dominos Deus....Sapalot [the thai word for pineapple]








“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”--The Buddha

ZombieKitten said:

I love the expression on her face.

Fauxie said:

Somebody post that on Anxiety's facebook.

please please please please please. He's getting tired of me posting images on his facebook. He might delete me as a friend if I keep it up and disturb him.


So one of you please please please disturb him for me.










“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.”--The Buddha
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TheVoid said:

Would that I could!