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Thread started 03/31/10 9:40am

AshK

Record Players

Hey all,

After years of relying solely on my laptop,speakers and ipod, I'm finally going to replace my broken record player. Any recommendations or advice for a vinyl newbie? I like those little compact all-in one thingys (with built in speakers) but some of the reviews say the sound is awful....I don't mind the seperates either but they're so many brands, which one's should I avoid?

Thanks
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Reply #1 posted 03/31/10 1:43pm

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AshK said:

Hey all,

After years of relying solely on my laptop,speakers and ipod, I'm finally going to replace my broken record player. Any recommendations or advice for a vinyl newbie? I like those little compact all-in one thingys (with built in speakers) but some of the reviews say the sound is awful....I don't mind the seperates either but they're so many brands, which one's should I avoid?

Thanks



What's your budget?
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Reply #2 posted 03/31/10 2:26pm

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I stick with a Technics SL12000, the club DJ standard issue turntable, if only because they are ubiquitous, well built and easily serviceable if they ever need maintenance. They cost about $400 new, but you can easily find used ones on craigslist and ebay. Also, since they are the standard DJ deck, there is always a market if you later decide to sell your TT.

Now, the audiophiles will tell that you should get a belt drive turntable, rather than a direct drive turntable such as the SL12000. There is some merit to this, but the difference between the two types (at least within a price range that I suspect you may be willing pay) is so minor that I don't consider this a real issue. Denon, Audio Technica, Stanton and others make affordable belt drive options.

What matters the most is getting a good stylus cartridge. I'd recommend the Shure M97xE for home use. It costs about $60.

The price ranges on turntables and cartridges vary widely, however, so TD3's question is a good one. nod
[Edited 3/31/10 7:34am]
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Reply #3 posted 03/31/10 2:32pm

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TD3 said:



What's your budget?



Ummm, I'm not too sure really, does £200-300 sound realistic?
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Reply #4 posted 03/31/10 2:38pm

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Check out this link to get an idea of the price ranges: http://www.musicdirect.co...awodmwPnBg
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Reply #5 posted 03/31/10 2:41pm

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I can't make recommendations as I am really not well versed on this sort of thing. But I will say I recently saw a turntable with a USB port so that you could digitize your vinyl collection. I thought that was GREAT! (Maybe that's even standard on turntables these days? I dunno. boxed ) Anyway... maybe shop around for a quality turntable with that feature -- that way you can still access archival stuff, but later exploit the benefits of portability, manually cleaning up the sound, etc. that a digital format gives.
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Reply #6 posted 03/31/10 2:46pm

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Stax said:

I stick with a Technics SL12000, the club DJ standard issue turntable, if only because they are ubiquitous, well built and easily serviceable if they ever need maintenance. They cost about $400 new, but you can easily find used ones on craigslist and ebay. Also, since they are the standard DJ deck, there is always a market if you later decide to sell your TT.

Now, the audiophiles will tell that you should get a belt drive turntable, rather than a direct drive turntable such as the SL12000. There is some merit to this, but the difference between the two types (at least within a price range that I suspect you may be willing pay) is so minor that I don't consider this a real issue. Denon, Audio Technica, Stanton and others make affordable belt drive options.

What matters the most is getting a good stylus cartridge. I'd recommend the Shure M97xE for home use. It costs about $60.

The price ranges on turntables and cartridges vary widely, however, so TD3's question is a good one. nod
[Edited 3/31/10 7:34am]


Thanks for replying, I used to have some Technics separates before I went to college, but it became so much hassle to take my whole system to and from college at the start and end of each term that I just abandoned it at home, eventually my parents gave it away. So I just need to get a record player (and I guess an amp and speakers) and then later on get the other bits when I can afford it. I'm just a little stuck between choosing, I love the versatility of building your own system but then the little compact ones are very cute and practical.
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Reply #7 posted 03/31/10 2:46pm

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Totally depends on your price range and what stereo equipment you have already.
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Reply #8 posted 03/31/10 2:47pm

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Lammastide said:

I can't make recommendations as I am really not well versed on this sort of thing. But I will say I recently saw a turntable with a USB port so that you could digitize your vinyl collection. I thought that was GREAT! (Maybe that's even standard on turntables these days? I dunno. boxed ) Anyway... maybe shop around for a quality turntable with that feature -- that way you can still access archival stuff, but later exploit the benefits of portability, manually cleaning up the sound, etc. that a digital format gives.
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Not really standard, but I have seen them on some Denon and Stanton TTs, so I guess it is becoming more popular. It is a nice feature, but I just plug my laptop into my stereo amp to do the same thing.
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Reply #9 posted 03/31/10 2:49pm

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AshK said:

Stax said:

I stick with a Technics SL12000, the club DJ standard issue turntable, if only because they are ubiquitous, well built and easily serviceable if they ever need maintenance. They cost about $400 new, but you can easily find used ones on craigslist and ebay. Also, since they are the standard DJ deck, there is always a market if you later decide to sell your TT.

Now, the audiophiles will tell that you should get a belt drive turntable, rather than a direct drive turntable such as the SL12000. There is some merit to this, but the difference between the two types (at least within a price range that I suspect you may be willing pay) is so minor that I don't consider this a real issue. Denon, Audio Technica, Stanton and others make affordable belt drive options.

What matters the most is getting a good stylus cartridge. I'd recommend the Shure M97xE for home use. It costs about $60.

The price ranges on turntables and cartridges vary widely, however, so TD3's question is a good one. nod
[Edited 3/31/10 7:34am]


Thanks for replying, I used to have some Technics separates before I went to college, but it became so much hassle to take my whole system to and from college at the start and end of each term that I just abandoned it at home, eventually my parents gave it away. So I just need to get a record player (and I guess an amp and speakers) and then later on get the other bits when I can afford it. I'm just a little stuck between choosing, I love the versatility of building your own system but then the little compact ones are very cute and practical.


It depends on how picky you are about sound. I couldn't do the all-in-one thing because I have never heard one that sounded good enough for me, and I don't consider myself a hyper audiophile.

There is TONS of good used equipment out there. Just do a little research first and you can find some great deals.
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Reply #10 posted 03/31/10 3:07pm

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Stax said:


It depends on how picky you are about sound. I couldn't do the all-in-one thing because I have never heard one that sounded good enough for me, and I don't consider myself a hyper audiophile.

There is TONS of good used equipment out there. Just do a little research first and you can find some great deals.


To be honest, I won't be using it that often to justify spending loads on it, not yet anyway, I tend to be really fussy with headphones and spend between £100-200 but only because I get at least an hour or two usage of them a day.

A friend told me about Richer Sounds http://www.richersounds.com/ who are supposed to be really good if you tell them how much you want to spend, so will go down there and then look up what they recommend.
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Reply #11 posted 03/31/10 3:09pm

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Stax said:

I stick with a Technics SL12000, the club DJ standard issue turntable, if only because they are ubiquitous, well built and easily serviceable if they ever need maintenance. They cost about $400 new, but you can easily find used ones on craigslist and ebay. Also, since they are the standard DJ deck, there is always a market if you later decide to sell your TT.

Now, the audiophiles will tell that you should get a belt drive turntable, rather than a direct drive turntable such as the SL12000. There is some merit to this, but the difference between the two types (at least within a price range that I suspect you may be willing pay) is so minor that I don't consider this a real issue. Denon, Audio Technica, Stanton and others make affordable belt drive options.

What matters the most is getting a good stylus cartridge. I'd recommend the Shure M97xE for home use. It costs about $60.

The price ranges on turntables and cartridges vary widely, however, so TD3's question is a good one. nod
[Edited 3/31/10 7:34am]

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Reply #12 posted 03/31/10 3:10pm

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AshK said:

Stax said:


It depends on how picky you are about sound. I couldn't do the all-in-one thing because I have never heard one that sounded good enough for me, and I don't consider myself a hyper audiophile.

There is TONS of good used equipment out there. Just do a little research first and you can find some great deals.


To be honest, I won't be using it that often to justify spending loads on it, not yet anyway, I tend to be really fussy with headphones and spend between £100-200 but only because I get at least an hour or two usage of them a day.

A friend told me about Richer Sounds http://www.richersounds.com/ who are supposed to be really good if you tell them how much you want to spend, so will go down there and then look up what they recommend.


That sounds like a decent plan. If you are fussy with headphones, however, I don't think you will be satisfied with an all-in-one turntable/speaker/amp set-up.
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Reply #13 posted 04/27/10 12:06pm

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I'm a newbie to the vinyl world too, and I wanna buy a record player too, but one with the USB plug so I can convert the songs for my iPOd, and I wanted to know : Has anyone ever tried it? Whats the qualitu of the MP3 file?

One good thing about the recently released vinyles is that many of them have voucher with a code to download the MP3 version of the album (for example the 180grm re-issue of Marvin gayes "I Want You") or even a CD included (Goldfrapps latest album)...
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Reply #14 posted 04/27/10 2:27pm

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FrenchGuy said:

I'm a newbie to the vinyl world too, and I wanna buy a record player too, but one with the USB plug so I can convert the songs for my iPOd, and I wanted to know : Has anyone ever tried it? Whats the qualitu of the MP3 file?

One good thing about the recently released vinyles is that many of them have voucher with a code to download the MP3 version of the album (for example the 180grm re-issue of Marvin gayes "I Want You") or even a CD included (Goldfrapps latest album)...


]


This is what I have Audio Technica AT-LP20-USB , I bought $420.00 US retail.

High-torque direct drive motor, dual magnet phono cartridge, stroboscopic platter indicator, reverse playback, and multiple playback speeds (33, 45, and 78), the turntable also boasts a USB connection for recording directly to your computer. My experience has been the MP3 quality is as good as if you ripped from a Cd. Though depending on the condition of the record, I have some 45's/albums that have a lil' pop but nothing that's overbearing or annoying.
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Reply #15 posted 04/27/10 3:20pm

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TD3 said:

FrenchGuy said:

I'm a newbie to the vinyl world too, and I wanna buy a record player too, but one with the USB plug so I can convert the songs for my iPOd, and I wanted to know : Has anyone ever tried it? Whats the qualitu of the MP3 file?

One good thing about the recently released vinyles is that many of them have voucher with a code to download the MP3 version of the album (for example the 180grm re-issue of Marvin gayes "I Want You") or even a CD included (Goldfrapps latest album)...


]


This is what I have Audio Technica AT-LP20-USB , I bought $420.00 US retail.

High-torque direct drive motor, dual magnet phono cartridge, stroboscopic platter indicator, reverse playback, and multiple playback speeds (33, 45, and 78), the turntable also boasts a USB connection for recording directly to your computer. My experience has been the MP3 quality is as good as if you ripped from a Cd. Though depending on the condition of the record, I have some 45's/albums that have a lil' pop but nothing that's overbearing or annoying.


I may look into this. I also see a USB Memorex that also let's you record
from vinyl to cassette and album as well as convert vinyl to MP3's.
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Reply #16 posted 04/27/10 3:40pm

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TD3 said:

FrenchGuy said:

I'm a newbie to the vinyl world too, and I wanna buy a record player too, but one with the USB plug so I can convert the songs for my iPOd, and I wanted to know : Has anyone ever tried it? Whats the qualitu of the MP3 file?

One good thing about the recently released vinyles is that many of them have voucher with a code to download the MP3 version of the album (for example the 180grm re-issue of Marvin gayes "I Want You") or even a CD included (Goldfrapps latest album)...


]


This is what I have Audio Technica AT-LP20-USB , I bought $420.00 US retail.

High-torque direct drive motor, dual magnet phono cartridge, stroboscopic platter indicator, reverse playback, and multiple playback speeds (33, 45, and 78), the turntable also boasts a USB connection for recording directly to your computer. My experience has been the MP3 quality is as good as if you ripped from a Cd. Though depending on the condition of the record, I have some 45's/albums that have a lil' pop but nothing that's overbearing or annoying.

thumbs up! Thanx, bro!
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Reply #17 posted 04/27/10 3:59pm

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TD3 said:



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This is what I have Audio Technica AT-LP20-USB , I bought $420.00 US retail.

High-torque direct drive motor, dual magnet phono cartridge, stroboscopic platter indicator, reverse playback, and multiple playback speeds (33, 45, and 78), the turntable also boasts a USB connection for recording directly to your computer. My experience has been the MP3 quality is as good as if you ripped from a Cd. Though depending on the condition of the record, I have some 45's/albums that have a lil' pop but nothing that's overbearing or annoying.

thumbs up! Thanx, bro!



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Reply #18 posted 04/27/10 4:08pm

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TD3 said:


My sig is ambiguous..... Trina sexy You are welcome bro! giggle


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Reply #19 posted 04/27/10 6:01pm

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Reply #20 posted 05/03/10 10:33pm

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TD3 said:

FrenchGuy said:

I'm a newbie to the vinyl world too, and I wanna buy a record player too, but one with the USB plug so I can convert the songs for my iPOd, and I wanted to know : Has anyone ever tried it? Whats the qualitu of the MP3 file?

One good thing about the recently released vinyles is that many of them have voucher with a code to download the MP3 version of the album (for example the 180grm re-issue of Marvin gayes "I Want You") or even a CD included (Goldfrapps latest album)...


]


This is what I have Audio Technica AT-LP20-USB , I bought $420.00 US retail.

High-torque direct drive motor, dual magnet phono cartridge, stroboscopic platter indicator, reverse playback, and multiple playback speeds (33, 45, and 78), the turntable also boasts a USB connection for recording directly to your computer. My experience has been the MP3 quality is as good as if you ripped from a Cd. Though depending on the condition of the record, I have some 45's/albums that have a lil' pop but nothing that's overbearing or annoying.


Did you have to make an adjustment to your sound card before use?
Was the software user friendly?
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