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Reply #60 posted 05/02/10 6:14pm

JoeTyler

ZombieKitten said:

JoeTyler said:



not even when U were a 17 years old??


are you kidding me?!?!?! ESPECIALLY not then lol I was going around falling in love painfully all over the place back then


so, in your case, in order to make love, you also have to be in love? eek

sorry, but that's too 19th Century for my taste...
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Reply #61 posted 05/02/10 6:15pm

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JoeTyler said:

cborgman said:


if he could justify to me that it is something he wants or needs, then i think i would be open to it. experimentation i am open to, and if a woman can give him something i can't...


clapping clapping


the biggest thing would be discussing it beforehand.

i have been the gay expirement for a lot of straight guys when i was younger, and almost always behind the backs of their gfs, something that i will always have guilt for though it's not my relationship.

i am not terribly down with the idea of an open relationship (for reasons of safety of everyone involved), but when we are talking about something i am not engendered for, it's different. i have been with a few women, and it is a different experience from being with a man.

i would probably watch, and maybe participate, if they were okay with that. if he's just looking for somethign sordid and dirty, that would be fine too, but not wanting me there would make me think she might not be the only time he is going elsewhere.
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Reply #62 posted 05/02/10 6:31pm

ZombieKitten

JoeTyler said:

ZombieKitten said:



are you kidding me?!?!?! ESPECIALLY not then lol I was going around falling in love painfully all over the place back then


so, in your case, in order to make love, you also have to be in love? eek

sorry, but that's too 19th Century for my taste...


no, other way around
If I fuck someone (and I HAVE to be attracted to them to do it in the first place) I usually fall in love with them, my oxytocin levels spike in a major way, I can't really help it, I totally bond lol
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Reply #63 posted 05/02/10 6:49pm

JoeTyler

ZombieKitten said:

JoeTyler said:



so, in your case, in order to make love, you also have to be in love? eek

sorry, but that's too 19th Century for my taste...


no, other way around
If I fuck someone (and I HAVE to be attracted to them to do it in the first place) I usually fall in love with them, my oxytocin levels spike in a major way, I can't really help it, I totally bond lol


eek
first time I've heard it, but hey, to each his own biggrin
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Reply #64 posted 05/02/10 7:07pm

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I'm like that too ZK nod
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Reply #65 posted 05/02/10 7:10pm

ZombieKitten

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I'm like that too ZK nod

it's a female thing, not all women are like that but a lot are I can guarantee it. Hormones are a wonderful thing nuts
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Reply #66 posted 05/02/10 7:51pm

elmer

In a serious relationship it'd be unacceptable, admittedly there'd perhaps be less gravity, but forgive I wouldn't.
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Reply #67 posted 05/02/10 7:52pm

tinaz

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I think it would be cheating as well... But then theres that saying..."eatin aint cheatin" lol
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Reply #68 posted 05/02/10 9:10pm

JustErin

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I would be pissed.

Bitches I can compete with, cock...I can not.
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Reply #69 posted 05/02/10 9:12pm

Cinnie

JustErin said:

I would be pissed.

Bitches I can compete with, cock...I can not.

lol
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Reply #70 posted 05/02/10 9:14pm

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tinaz said:

I think it would be cheating as well... But then theres that saying..."eatin aint cheatin" lol


hmmm

hmmm hmmm

hmmm hmmm hmmm
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Reply #71 posted 05/02/10 9:15pm

Cinnie

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tinaz said:

I think it would be cheating as well... But then theres that saying..."eatin aint cheatin" lol


hmmm

hmmm hmmm

hmmm hmmm hmmm

I actually never heard that saying before spit
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Reply #72 posted 05/02/10 9:17pm

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Cinnie said:

RenHoek said:



hmmm

hmmm hmmm

hmmm hmmm hmmm

I actually never heard that saying before spit


me neither, hence the hmmm
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Reply #73 posted 05/02/10 10:09pm

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JoeTyler said:

If your male/female partner (husband/wife, or boyfriend/girlfriend) had a brief sexual relationship with a gay or a lesbian, respectively...

would you consider it as an unacceptable infidelity, or just sexual experimentation? Would you forgive him/her? Or would you even accept it, at least, for a while, as long as he/she doesn't "cheat" you with a male/female heterosexual?



anybody who cheats on me would get the boot...up the ass. and if they gay cheated then I might have to throw some hot grits on them. if they gay cheated on me while i was married to them then I would probably have to cut off an ear and wipe out their bank account; maybe even post that shit on facebook. lol nod
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Reply #74 posted 05/02/10 10:56pm

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I'm like that too ZK nod

nod If I feel attracted to somebody I fall in love with that man. So I am either in love or not attracted at all.
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Reply #75 posted 05/02/10 11:01pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

JoeTyler said:

If your male/female partner (husband/wife, or boyfriend/girlfriend) had a brief sexual relationship with a gay or a lesbian, respectively...

would you consider it as an unacceptable infidelity, or just sexual experimentation? Would you forgive him/her? Or would you even accept it, at least, for a while, as long as he/she doesn't "cheat" you with a male/female heterosexual?



anybody who cheats on me would get the boot...up the ass. and if they gay cheated then I might have to throw some hot grits on them. if they gay cheated on me while i was married to them then I would probably have to cut off an ear and wipe out their bank account; maybe even post that shit on facebook. lol nod


Why is it worse?
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Reply #76 posted 05/02/10 11:11pm

Cinnie

Serious said:

BklynBabe said:

I'm like that too ZK nod

nod If I feel attracted to somebody I fall in love with that man. So I am either in love or not attracted at all.

me too gurls grouphug
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Reply #77 posted 05/02/10 11:30pm

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Cinnie said:

Serious said:


nod If I feel attracted to somebody I fall in love with that man. So I am either in love or not attracted at all.

me too gurls grouphug

Really? Poor boy pat grouphug
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Reply #78 posted 05/02/10 11:50pm

Ottensen

Cheating is cheating, and in my world it will not be condoned. I don't care if my mate did with a man, a woman, or a water buffalo...you either respect our committment to each other or you can kick rocks.
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Reply #79 posted 05/02/10 11:52pm

TD3

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JoeTyler said:

If your male/female partner (husband/wife, or boyfriend/girlfriend) had a brief sexual relationship with a gay or a lesbian, respectively...

would you consider it as an unacceptable infidelity, or just sexual experimentation? Would you forgive him/her? Or would you even accept it, at least, for a while, as long as he/she doesn't "cheat" you with a male/female heterosexual?



Cheating is cheating and lying is lying. Speaking as a women who's been married for 24 years if your are "experimenting" at this late date, you've been lying to me and yourself (possibly) about who your are. If you are "experimenting" at anytime in the relationship, you haven't been honest with me or yourself, really.


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Reply #80 posted 05/03/10 5:19am

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RenHoek said:

Cinnie said:


I actually never heard that saying before spit


me neither, hence the hmmm



I cant believe you guys havent heard that! lol
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Reply #81 posted 05/03/10 5:42am

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Fauxie said:

DesireeNevermind said:




anybody who cheats on me would get the boot...up the ass. and if they gay cheated then I might have to throw some hot grits on them. if they gay cheated on me while i was married to them then I would probably have to cut off an ear and wipe out their bank account; maybe even post that shit on facebook. lol nod


Why is it worse?


Because it is. Sure, the whole 'cheating is cheating no matter who' thing is true...but when they cheat with someone that has assets that you don't...well, that's just not fair and I'm gonna be ending it pretty quick.
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Reply #82 posted 05/03/10 7:02am

BlackAdder7

infidelity is infidelity be it with the same sex, opposite sex, animal or apple pie.
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Reply #83 posted 05/03/10 8:00am

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TD3 said:

JoeTyler said:

If your male/female partner (husband/wife, or boyfriend/girlfriend) had a brief sexual relationship with a gay or a lesbian, respectively...

would you consider it as an unacceptable infidelity, or just sexual experimentation? Would you forgive him/her? Or would you even accept it, at least, for a while, as long as he/she doesn't "cheat" you with a male/female heterosexual?



Cheating is cheating and lying is lying. Speaking as a women who's been married for 24 years if your are "experimenting" at this late date, you've been lying to me and yourself (possibly) about who your are. If you are "experimenting" anytime of the relationship, you haven't been honest with me or yourself, really.


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Reply #84 posted 05/03/10 8:17am

JoeTyler

I'm surprised... hmmm
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Reply #85 posted 05/03/10 9:17am

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Fauxie said:

DesireeNevermind said:




anybody who cheats on me would get the boot...up the ass. and if they gay cheated then I might have to throw some hot grits on them. if they gay cheated on me while i was married to them then I would probably have to cut off an ear and wipe out their bank account; maybe even post that shit on facebook. lol nod


Why is it worse?



why is what worse?
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Reply #86 posted 05/03/10 9:19am

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TD3 said:

JoeTyler said:

If your male/female partner (husband/wife, or boyfriend/girlfriend) had a brief sexual relationship with a gay or a lesbian, respectively...

would you consider it as an unacceptable infidelity, or just sexual experimentation? Would you forgive him/her? Or would you even accept it, at least, for a while, as long as he/she doesn't "cheat" you with a male/female heterosexual?



Cheating is cheating and lying is lying. Speaking as a women who's been married for 24 years if your are "experimenting" at this late date, you've been lying to me and yourself (possibly) about who your are. If you are "experimenting" anytime of the relationship, you haven't been honest with me or yourself, really.


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yeahthat bow thumbs up!


we need a :kickintheass: emoticon.
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Reply #87 posted 05/03/10 9:57am

Genesia

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JoeTyler said:

I'm surprised... hmmm


I don't know why.
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Reply #88 posted 05/03/10 10:26am

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DesireeNevermind said:

Fauxie said:



Why is it worse?



why is what worse?


It. smile

Being 'gay cheated', as you put it. Sorry, let me expand, for clarity. Why is 'gay cheating' worse than being the victim of regular hetero cheating?
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Reply #89 posted 05/03/10 10:53am

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Fauxie said:

DesireeNevermind said:




why is what worse?


It. smile

Being 'gay cheated', as you put it. Sorry, let me expand, for clarity. Why is 'gay cheating' worse than being the victim of regular hetero cheating?



Ahh I see.


Well let's be frank shall we? The incidence of HIV is growing among the females and it gets worse when you break it down by race; black and hispanic females getting infected at a faster rate than white women. This is primarily because of DL and drug behavior among the men. So for me being a female and a woman of color, I have to be extra careful plain and simple. I don't tolerate intravenous drug use at all but of course that's easier to spot than a man who gay cheats.

With men double dipping or gay cheating they are just increasing the risk of infection for themselves and their partners. Plus the activity in an of itself could be more high rish because a man is a lot more likely to hide his gay sex than his straight sex. He could possibly engage in sex with random strangers versus sex with a woman he actually has to pursue and seduce. Society is to blame for that. Guys can be womanizers and that's okay but let them chase man ass and it's a whole other animal so to speak. Now some folk are going to throw in "condom" use as this end all be all to protection from STDs. Let's be real...condoms break! There are millions of people in the world who were born because a condom broke. There thousands of folk every day getting diagnosed with HIV/AIDs because a condom broke. If I were to weigh the odds very carefully...I'd rather have to deal with an unplanned pregnancy (either mine or hers) than an incurable disease (all of us). Now the rates of HIV/AIDs transmission in comparison to other diseases like herpes is much much lower but again if one had a choice of diseases, I'm sure most people would choose the more treatable less compromising of the diseases.

And lastly, like a couple others have mentioned....if one is gay cheating then they have been lying to themselves and their partners and also they have created a situation in which the person they are with can never truly fulfill their needs simply because they lack the right equipment. This works both ways: men who cheat on women with other men and women who cheat on men with other women. I'm reminded of a guy I used to work with who was gay but cheated on his boyfriend with a woman because he wanted a child. Don't know whatever became of that guy or his relationship but this thread reminds me of it. This man came to work and spilled all the dirty goodies along with dumping a trash bag of clothes on to the lobby floor. lol
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