SUPRMAN said:

Dude, saying that doesn't make it so. And you still haven't offered anything substantial to such an assertion.


It's called a PATTERN.OF.BEHAVIOR. Peyton, unlike Tebow, could never win the big games in college, and he's not any different 11 years into the pros. Yet the media touts Peyton as the greatest QB of this generation because of his (padded by NFL rules) stats in the air. Peyton is and has been great at what he does, but he's OVER.HYPED. Nobody thought they were gonna win the Superbowl becuase their defense was HORRIBLE at stopping the run. That was the year the Jags put up 300 yrds on the ground against the. But the defense learned and made adjustments which is what pro athletes are supoosed to do. When the defense showed up the Colts won the ring...but PEYTON got all the praise? The same thing happened with his brother's team. The Giants D won stopped the Patriots, but Eli gets the fat contract?


Agree 100%, talent and skills need to be improving. And collge success doesn't guarantee pro success, but it is the obvious indicator. Which is why they scout and draft college players in the first place.

The Giants D won stopped the Patriots, but Eli gets the fat contract?

Adisa said:

You still have to be able to throw the ball downfield. Eli does that - dude made huge plays in that game. He'll never be as great as Peyton, but he's still very good, and franchise QBs get the big money. The year after the SB, my boys finished 12-4 with the SECOND toughest schedule in the league. If Idiot didn't shoot himself, we beat Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl. This past season, Eli and the WRs weren't the problem. Our defense sucked ass, giving up 40+ points five fucking times(85 points the last two games).

Giants have been to four Super Bowls, winning three. RINGS are all that matters.

The Giants have 3 rings, and the Titans couldn't get it done when they had the chance. Both statements are true!

Will Jemarcus Russell land with another team?
Dude has the physical tools to be a decent NFL qb.

Will Jemarcus Russell land with another team?
Dude has the physical tools to be a decent NFL qb.

Will Jemarcus Russell land with another team?
Dude has the physical tools to be a decent NFL qb.

phunkdaddy said:

But he doesn't have the head, heart, desire and work ethic to be a legit NFL QB. Put Tim Tebow's brain in Fatso's body, then we can talk.

I think some team will take a shot at him if not just
for another body in camp and unfortunately injuries
happen during training camp and preseason.

phunkdaddy said:

I wouldn't touch him with a ten-foot pole. The fact that he's out of shape(and came to camp out of shape) shows you his committment to the game.

This shows you how overrated the combines are. Just because a dude has a rocket arm(Jamarcus), or is a physical specimen(Vernon Gholston), doesn't mean they have what it takes to play in the NFL.

I think some team will take a shot at him if not just
for another body in camp and unfortunately injuries
happen during training camp and preseason.

uPtoWnNY said:

I don't think the combines are overrated. It certainly takes more than being a physical specimen or a rocket arm.
Combine evaluations and drafts include teams taking a chance like Denver with Tebow.
It's an objective and subjective process.

SUPRMAN said:

But it's very risky drafting QBs that high in the first round. If he bombs out, your franchise is fucked for several years because of the money invested in these cats. The Chargers were able to recover after Leaf crapped out. Will the Raiders?