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Reply #60 posted 04/19/10 6:28pm

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prb said:

kewlschool said:

Or isn't it all about the wedding dress?


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seriously...disbelief



The sad thing is that bride will one day show her kids that picture!? I can't even think what would grandma say?
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Reply #61 posted 04/19/10 6:46pm

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Or isn't it all about the wedding dress?


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WHAT....THE.....FUCK.....her folks actually paid for that shit.....jesus... disbelief


The groom should have dressed as Bishop Don "Magic" Juan.
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Reply #62 posted 04/19/10 7:11pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

kewlschool said:

Or isn't it all about the wedding dress?


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WHAT....THE.....FUCK.....her folks actually paid for that shit.....jesus... disbelief


The groom should have dressed as Bishop Don "Magic" Juan.

That dress is sooooo not cute.... lol
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Reply #63 posted 04/19/10 7:41pm

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peacenlovealways said:

uPtoWnNY said:




WHAT....THE.....FUCK.....her folks actually paid for that shit.....jesus... disbelief


The groom should have dressed as Bishop Don "Magic" Juan.

That dress is sooooo not cute.... lol

the dress is nice, just a tad small up top lol
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #64 posted 04/19/10 7:47pm

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hmmm maybe the dress shrunk when she washed it? it does look a tad polyester.
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Reply #65 posted 04/20/10 7:09am

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DesireeNevermind said:




well dang hon...my grandparents would have called that the "newlywed" phase. lol


We happily marrieds can be smug like that sometimes. smile


lol

I thought of another reason this morning when my husband and I were getting ready together. I was putting on my makeup, and as usual we were joking around together, and he was making me laugh so hard I stuck my mascara wand in my eye.

Those are the indescribable moments that make marriage such a valuable thing to me. Having someone who just gets me, who is around all the time to make me laugh and just make me feel good with his presence.

The private jokes, the shared sense of humor, the songs we love to listen to in the car.

Knowing how he likes his sandwiches made, and watching him enjoy them.

Having all my laundry done because we've split up the household tasks fairly. I HATE doing laundry! I can't overstate to you guys how nice it is to have an in-house laundry service. giggle

Watching our kids act like maniacs, and just looking at each other, not having to say anything because we know what the other is thinking. This is our family, this is our life, and nothing compares. If he were just my boyfriend, it wouldn't be the same, and I can't explain why, it just is.
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Reply #66 posted 04/20/10 7:23am

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I'm married, and yeah good question! lol ???
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Reply #67 posted 04/20/10 7:27am

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DesireeNevermind said:



hmmm maybe the dress shrunk when she washed it? it does look a tad polyester.

I think she has it on backwards. smile
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Reply #68 posted 04/20/10 7:35am

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DesireeNevermind said:

face it ladies...you all grew up reading sappy ass harlequin romance novels. biggrin



Lmao. What about those old love songs from the 60's and 70's? I know I'm not gunna play something like "wanting to fuck the taste outta your mouth" when I'm getting married

I'm playing Smokey Robinson, Stevie Wonder, EWF. Dem artist make you believe marriage is possible
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Reply #69 posted 04/20/10 8:18am

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PunkMistress said:

lol

I thought of another reason this morning when my husband and I were getting ready together. I was putting on my makeup, and as usual we were joking around together, and he was making me laugh so hard I stuck my mascara wand in my eye.

Those are the indescribable moments that make marriage such a valuable thing to me. Having someone who just gets me, who is around all the time to make me laugh and just make me feel good with his presence.

The private jokes, the shared sense of humor, the songs we love to listen to in the car.

Knowing how he likes his sandwiches made, and watching him enjoy them.

Having all my laundry done because we've split up the household tasks fairly. I HATE doing laundry! I can't overstate to you guys how nice it is to have an in-house laundry service. giggle

Watching our kids act like maniacs, and just looking at each other, not having to say anything because we know what the other is thinking. This is our family, this is our life, and nothing compares. If he were just my boyfriend, it wouldn't be the same, and I can't explain why, it just is.



Yeah, but you can have all that stuff without the piece of paper telling you you're married, right? (If you're not against co-habitation.) A grad school friend who got married last summer was recently visiting and she said essentially the same thing, "It's just different." I don't get it. If you trust someone enough to marry them and trust that you are not going to get divorced then why marry at all -- that trust should still be there without the paper, right? I mean, I get there are certain legal benefits (I guess) but I think you can do a will or power of attorney to grant them essentially the same rights and it's probably a lot easier to change.

I'm not trying to pick on you personally by asking this stuff, but you said the same thing as my friend and I am wondering what makes it different other than the piece of paper.
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Reply #70 posted 04/20/10 8:20am

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PunkMistress said:

WaterInYourBath said:


Oh, really, lol? Ok then, since he would hopefully have good style and taste in clothing, he can pick it out, but it has to match my dress and be reasonably priced. lol


lol

I agree with the rest of what you said, though. We had a really small, inexpensive wedding with no bridesmaids or groomsmen, etc. and fewer than 20 guests. We bought his suit and my entire outfit off eBay.



I don't know about all that now. confused


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Reply #71 posted 04/20/10 9:48am

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PunkMistress said:

DesireeNevermind said:

really though...


what can a husband give you that a boyfriend can't besides his last name?


A solemn promise that what you're building together isn't temporary.

That may sound laughable considering how temporary many marriages seem to be, but I can speak only for myself. My marriage is a partnership for life.


I want your relationship! Well, a relationship like yours! mushy
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Reply #72 posted 04/20/10 10:20am

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JerseyKRS said:

PunkMistress said:



lol

I agree with the rest of what you said, though. We had a really small, inexpensive wedding with no bridesmaids or groomsmen, etc. and fewer than 20 guests. We bought his suit and my entire outfit off eBay.



I don't know about all that now. confused


It was inexpensive compared to the average American wedding by far! By our standards it was a lot to spend on one day, but we saved a ton of money on everything but the food - which is where the $$$ should go!

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Reply #73 posted 04/20/10 10:28am

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PunkMistress said:

JerseyKRS said:




I don't know about all that now. confused


It was inexpensive compared to the average American wedding by far! By our standards it was a lot to spend on one day, but we saved a ton of money on everything but the food - which is where the $$$ should go!

pig
[Edited 4/20/10 10:25am]


So true! The reception/food is the most important part. The wedding is for the bride/groom, but the reception is the party they HOST for their guests. It's what most people remember, for better or worse (pun intended).
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #74 posted 04/20/10 10:31am

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PunkMistress said:

lol

I thought of another reason this morning when my husband and I were getting ready together. I was putting on my makeup, and as usual we were joking around together, and he was making me laugh so hard I stuck my mascara wand in my eye.

Those are the indescribable moments that make marriage such a valuable thing to me. Having someone who just gets me, who is around all the time to make me laugh and just make me feel good with his presence.

The private jokes, the shared sense of humor, the songs we love to listen to in the car.

Knowing how he likes his sandwiches made, and watching him enjoy them.

Having all my laundry done because we've split up the household tasks fairly. I HATE doing laundry! I can't overstate to you guys how nice it is to have an in-house laundry service. giggle

Watching our kids act like maniacs, and just looking at each other, not having to say anything because we know what the other is thinking. This is our family, this is our life, and nothing compares. If he were just my boyfriend, it wouldn't be the same, and I can't explain why, it just is.



Yeah, but you can have all that stuff without the piece of paper telling you you're married, right? (If you're not against co-habitation.) A grad school friend who got married last summer was recently visiting and she said essentially the same thing, "It's just different." I don't get it. If you trust someone enough to marry them and trust that you are not going to get divorced then why marry at all -- that trust should still be there without the paper, right? I mean, I get there are certain legal benefits (I guess) but I think you can do a will or power of attorney to grant them essentially the same rights and it's probably a lot easier to change.

I'm not trying to pick on you personally by asking this stuff, but you said the same thing as my friend and I am wondering what makes it different other than the piece of paper.


My simplistic answer is probably social conditioning. Getting married is what people do when they want to be together forever and raise a family together. It's a tradition with a long history and a lot of weight. It's not about "a piece of paper," but more wanting to be a part of that tradition and have that security.

It also has something to do with the way the world views your relationship. We all love to say we don't give a fuck what others think, but really, most of us do, to a degree. Why do gay people fight for their right to marry? As you said, marriage won't make their relationships more loving or trusting. But it does lend a validity and a seriousness to the relationship in other people's eyes that, in most societies, only a marriage gets.
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Reply #75 posted 04/20/10 10:32am

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TD3 said:

PunkMistress said:



You understood what he said there? lol



Me and blackberry one of these days. lol lol


Trina wink


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Reply #76 posted 04/20/10 11:54am

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You can't knock the free gifts though. Best part of any wedding...that and the music and free drinks.
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Reply #77 posted 04/20/10 12:51pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

You can't knock the free gifts though. Best part of any wedding...that and the music and free drinks.



Lawd!! What are we going to do with you. lol

You crash weddings don't you?
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Reply #78 posted 04/20/10 12:58pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Well one thread deserves another.


Now in this day and age where:


women have an equal opportunity to get a good education
have an equally good opportunity to get a decent job
are no longer marred by social expectations of sexual virtue
can go to the sperm bank to get knocked up...


Why are women wanting to get hitched? Half of marriages end in divorce, you will incur HIS debt, and after the divorce he's probably going to marry again and focus all his energies on the new wife and kids leaving you to struggle with your brood on your own. Plus it's a lot of work to be wifey, pal, girlfriend, momma, housekeeper, cook, laundromat, baby maker and accountant all at the same damn time.

confused




It's the dress and reception isn't it.

And so he gets bored and tired of the new wife, she's all worn out, he finds someone new, and so this goes on and on till he dies. It's one vicious circle so why marry if you're gonna lose your looks, right?
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Reply #79 posted 04/20/10 1:01pm

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TD3 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

You can't knock the free gifts though. Best part of any wedding...that and the music and free drinks.



Lawd!! What are we going to do with you. lol

You crash weddings don't you?



lurking The economy is tough...besides I'm sure I'm on the list...I came with her!
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Reply #80 posted 04/20/10 5:38pm

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D, I'm usually down with your comments and stuff but this one I whole heartedly disagree with you on it.

MOST women get married because they either:
1) Want to impress their friends and family by having a big elaborate wedding to outshine somebody else's wedding they went to the year before
2) To please their family
3) Just to say "I's married now!!!"

SOME women get married because:
They really are in love with their soul mate and want to seal the deal with a commitment before God.

Now if you don't believe in marriage, then it's fine and dandy, your opinion, but yes some women, myself included, still do believe in the institution of marriage. All marriages don't end up in divorce.



wave Will be married 23 years this coming may!

Ahhhh!!! party Congrats to you!!!!
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Reply #81 posted 04/20/10 5:47pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

missfee said:

D, I'm usually down with your comments and stuff but this one I whole heartedly disagree with you on it.

MOST women get married because they either:
1) Want to impress their friends and family by having a big elaborate wedding to outshine somebody else's wedding they went to the year before
2) To please their family
3) Just to say "I's married now!!!"


SOME women get married because:
They really are in love with their soul mate and want to seal the deal with a commitment before God.

Now if you don't believe in marriage, then it's fine and dandy, your opinion, but yes some women, myself included, still do believe in the institution of marriage. All marriages don't end up in divorce.



confuse Aren't you kind of agreeing with me? lol That 1 through 3 are shady reasons to get hitched, especially for a female, and in this day and age a woman doesn't have to do any of that...she may want to but there are enough freedoms in the western world where she doesnt' have to impress, outshine, please either her family or society. With #3 that's just a hot mess thinking a title is going to make one happy.


Let's assume the latter is the norm...sealing the deal with a soul mate before God. What the heck happens? Why does that soul mate become the bane of a woman's existence? I'd like to be optimistic about marriage but when only 47% last and that 47% is questionable, I still wonder why women bother. Men seem to get the better end of the deal in marriage too..

Naw I'm not agreeing with you. You are asking "why do women get married" and your reasons are based on what on only what SOME women do or hold in high importance in order to get married. The first three reasons I listed were reasons in which most women that I've seen personally or been around have used marriage as an excuse but keep in mind that these women were either insecure or needy and dependable. Yes in this day and age most marriages end in divorce, but why would I let statistics deter me from getting married? That's silly to me. I have faith in marriage, but I also do believe that if you have tried in your heart and soul to make a relationship work when it just doesn't, then yes, divorce is an option, but it doesn't always have to be the SOLE option. Maybe you don't believe in soul mates and that's fine, but I do. I personally would love to marry my boyfriend in a ceremony before God while we are both proclaiming our love for one another. It is important to both of us. If you wish to stay single just because the divorce rate is high, then be my guest, it's your decision and your life and you chose to live it the way you see fit. I just don't base my opinions on statistics, I base them on personal experience and how much faith I hold in my heart. I really don't understand how you can say that men benefit more than women in a marriage though...could you elaborate a little?
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Reply #82 posted 04/20/10 5:55pm

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Because Larry King tells them to
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Reply #83 posted 04/20/10 5:56pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

face it ladies...you all grew up reading sappy ass harlequin romance novels. biggrin

Naw I didn't, I grew up admiring the marriages of my parents and my grandparents. And trust me it all wasn't roses, when my parents married it was their 2nd marriage for both. They still had faith in finding love again and didn't let their first failed marriages deter them from "ever marrying again". And my grandparents have been married for 62 years. And trust me they have been through the ringer, infidelity and all, but they survived it and moved past it. Sure they could have given up, but didn't. It's about how much faith you have in it. Some people are content with just living together for 20+ years and thats fine as long as they are happy and it works for them. All I'm saying is, just because there is a high divorce rate, that's not a good enough reason for me to avoid marriage. shrug
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Reply #84 posted 04/20/10 6:07pm

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missfee said:

DesireeNevermind said:

face it ladies...you all grew up reading sappy ass harlequin romance novels. biggrin

Naw I didn't, I grew up admiring the marriages of my parents and my grandparents. And trust me it all wasn't roses, when my parents married it was their 2nd marriage for both. They still had faith in finding love again and didn't let their first failed marriages deter them from "ever marrying again". And my grandparents have been married for 62 years. And trust me they have been through the ringer, infidelity and all, but they survived it and moved past it. Sure they could have given up, but didn't. It's about how much faith you have in it. Some people are content with just living together for 20+ years and thats fine as long as they are happy and it works for them. All I'm saying is, just because there is a high divorce rate, that's not a good enough reason for me to avoid marriage. shrug



Thanks so much for sharing their stories. fallinluv
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Reply #85 posted 04/20/10 6:08pm

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PunkMistress said:

Fauxie said:



We happily marrieds can be smug like that sometimes. smile


lol

I thought of another reason this morning when my husband and I were getting ready together. I was putting on my makeup, and as usual we were joking around together, and he was making me laugh so hard I stuck my mascara wand in my eye.

Those are the indescribable moments that make marriage such a valuable thing to me. Having someone who just gets me, who is around all the time to make me laugh and just make me feel good with his presence.

The private jokes, the shared sense of humor, the songs we love to listen to in the car.

Knowing how he likes his sandwiches made, and watching him enjoy them.

Having all my laundry done because we've split up the household tasks fairly. I HATE doing laundry! I can't overstate to you guys how nice it is to have an in-house laundry service. giggle

Watching our kids act like maniacs, and just looking at each other, not having to say anything because we know what the other is thinking. This is our family, this is our life, and nothing compares. If he were just my boyfriend, it wouldn't be the same, and I can't explain why, it just is.


mushy

I can relate to this.
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Reply #86 posted 04/20/10 6:19pm

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Fauxie said:

PunkMistress said:



lol

I thought of another reason this morning when my husband and I were getting ready together. I was putting on my makeup, and as usual we were joking around together, and he was making me laugh so hard I stuck my mascara wand in my eye.

Those are the indescribable moments that make marriage such a valuable thing to me. Having someone who just gets me, who is around all the time to make me laugh and just make me feel good with his presence.

The private jokes, the shared sense of humor, the songs we love to listen to in the car.

Knowing how he likes his sandwiches made, and watching him enjoy them.

Having all my laundry done because we've split up the household tasks fairly. I HATE doing laundry! I can't overstate to you guys how nice it is to have an in-house laundry service. giggle

Watching our kids act like maniacs, and just looking at each other, not having to say anything because we know what the other is thinking. This is our family, this is our life, and nothing compares. If he were just my boyfriend, it wouldn't be the same, and I can't explain why, it just is.


mushy

I can relate to this.


yay!

I'm happy for you and Mon.
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Reply #87 posted 04/20/10 6:20pm

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PunkMistress said:

missfee said:


Naw I didn't, I grew up admiring the marriages of my parents and my grandparents. And trust me it all wasn't roses, when my parents married it was their 2nd marriage for both. They still had faith in finding love again and didn't let their first failed marriages deter them from "ever marrying again". And my grandparents have been married for 62 years. And trust me they have been through the ringer, infidelity and all, but they survived it and moved past it. Sure they could have given up, but didn't. It's about how much faith you have in it. Some people are content with just living together for 20+ years and thats fine as long as they are happy and it works for them. All I'm saying is, just because there is a high divorce rate, that's not a good enough reason for me to avoid marriage. shrug



Thanks so much for sharing their stories. fallinluv

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PunkMistress said:

jone70 said:




Yeah, but you can have all that stuff without the piece of paper telling you you're married, right? (If you're not against co-habitation.) A grad school friend who got married last summer was recently visiting and she said essentially the same thing, "It's just different." I don't get it. If you trust someone enough to marry them and trust that you are not going to get divorced then why marry at all -- that trust should still be there without the paper, right? I mean, I get there are certain legal benefits (I guess) but I think you can do a will or power of attorney to grant them essentially the same rights and it's probably a lot easier to change.

I'm not trying to pick on you personally by asking this stuff, but you said the same thing as my friend and I am wondering what makes it different other than the piece of paper.


My simplistic answer is probably social conditioning. Getting married is what people do when they want to be together forever and raise a family together. It's a tradition with a long history and a lot of weight. It's not about "a piece of paper," but more wanting to be a part of that tradition and have that security.

It also has something to do with the way the world views your relationship. We all love to say we don't give a fuck what others think, but really, most of us do, to a degree. Why do gay people fight for their right to marry? As you said, marriage won't make their relationships more loving or trusting. But it does lend a validity and a seriousness to the relationship in other people's eyes that, in most societies, only a marriage gets.

yeahthat
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Reply #89 posted 04/20/10 6:42pm

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PunkMistress said:

Fauxie said:



mushy

I can relate to this.


yay!

I'm happy for you and Mon.


And we for you and Chris.

Isn't this nice. smile
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