DesireeNevermind said:

You're still not getting the point because you hate her. Like I stated before, Oprah has had abusers on her show in the past, so this guy isn't different. The only difference is that he's related to a famous person. Oprah gave him a rope so he could hang himself. I didn't see the show, but from the sound of it, he made himself and his family look like the stupid fools that they are on national television. Abusers get away with crimes because their victims are usually too scared to say anything. Oprah wants to expose these people so the world will stop ignoring the problem and try to fix it. That's the whole point of doing those type of shows.
BTW, Oprah has done shows on men who have been abused. Everybody ignored it because they weren't famous.

DesireeNevermind said:

There is a theory that certain sexual predators can't be cured. If that's true, we need to figure out a way to identify them and prevent their behaviour so no one gets hurt, instead of pushing for punishment after the fact. Even if pedophiles really are born that way, we need to try to identify why and how that happens. IMO serious research needs to be put into discovering what makes an abuser so we know how to prevent the problem.

jeami said:

In general Oprah kind of annoys me, but this topic is not cause to attack her. Her methods perhaps, but not her intention. It's clear she's trying to do good by bringing the subject of sexual abuse to light.

jeami said:

Being pissed at her is far different from hating her. If I hated her I would never watch her show to begin with. My point is this guy should have been included with all the other abusers and not singled out and given his own platform simply because he is the brother of an oscar winner. In a twisted way it gives him fame or at least makes him infamous. She didn't give him a rope to hang himself per se because she could have gone hard on him as she's done to past molester guests and she could have delve further into his other instances of molestation and his prison time. You need to watch the show. She used kid gloves on this fucker.

People are not that dense and starstruck or even uncaring to only pay attention to a molester because he molested some one famous. People don't do anything because statistically most of us have been abused but we think we're the only ones and people are dealing with their own trauma as best they can. It's the victims who need the showcase and the platform by which to speak out, not these vile miscreants who've done the abusing. When you watch the show you will see that nothing worthwhile was accomplished. He doesn't get why Mo'Nique is done with his ass, the parents don't get why their dirty laundry has been aired and Oprah doesn't get why the family is still in the closet and not taking what's happened as a learning experience and opportunity for healing. Mo hasn't spoken to these people in years and rightfully so.

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jeami said:

You overestimate the intelligence of human beings. There's a whole lot of dumb asses out there. Don't give human beings too much credit because common sense isn't very common anymore.

Oprah does give the victims a chance to tell their stories. As previously stated, she talked to Monique before she went through with the show. Monique declined, but she gave Oprah her blessing so other people could be helped. Saying that Oprah never should've done the show doesn't make any sense because she talked to the victim first to make sure the victim was okay with it, so getting offended is pointless.

Contrary to popular belief, Oprah isn't God, so she couldn't force the man and his family to see the light. Those people have been in serious denial for decades and nothing is going to change that. Hell, prison didn't help, so going on national televison surely won't help either. Once again, Oprah interviewed the fool and his crazy family so everyone could see how ridiculous they are. This wasn't a ploy to make sure this guy becomes rich and famous. The point was to turn on the lights so everyone could watch the nasty cockroaches scatter.

Only thing I applaud about ANY OF THIS is he admitted it but from what I heard, it seems like the family's still in denial or trying to sugarcoat what was a horrible experience. Both Monique and her brother should've gotten some help, better yet did he ever revealed who molested HIM?

DesireeNevermind said:

Depends on the state and the crime. I think there is a statute of limitations.
There have been with the church molestation cases.

meow85 said:

You can't prevent something if you don't understand it and a lot of people do not want to understand pedophilia and use words like monsters or evil etc. Whilst that is understandable it just shows you people can not accept that a normal person could do something so awful and so terrible a child, that's what I find so terrifying (normal people doing evil things) and THAT is what needs to change if you ever want to prevent it.

AshK said:

Okay, but here is the kicker..."Normal" people don't go around molesting children.

shorttrini said:

I think you're missing my point, I'm not saying it's normal behaviour, I'm saying by dehumanising the behaviour you can not understand it or start to prevent/treat it.

AshK said:

Here is the thing, there is nothing "human" about that sort of behavior.In fact, it is inhumane to treat someone in such a manner. I am willing to bet that if they took a CAT scan of a pedifile brain, you might see a difference in it's make up, compared to a "normal" person's brain.

AshK said:

A child molester that drop the soap in a prison's shower room is nothing to laugh at. Believe that.

shorttrini said:

THANK YOU.

Normal people aren't serial killers either. There's a difference between acting normal and actually being normal. One can only "act" for so long.

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DesireeNevermind said:

Well we agree on one point at least. Have you watched it yet? There's one part where Oprah is trying to explain why Mo'Nique may have gone on about her business and "acted" like everything was ok because it's what the family expected of her....dude gave her the side eye and quickly said "that's not what we expected" in an uncomfortable tone. I do believe he tried to check Oprah. The way it played out, the family (molester brother included) sounds displeased with Mo for going public in the first place and apparently opening up old wounds; their wounds.

DesireeNevermind said:

Man, it looked like it took everything in Oprah not chop in his neck for that shit.

But those people were definitely in denial if they thought that they didn't expect/want Monique to keep quiet and move on without too much static. They may not have wanted that deep in their hearts and souls, but that is what they wanted on the surface. And I know that is exactly the impression they put upon her because we could still see it on that show.

DesireeNevermind said:

I haven't seen the show yet. The whole point that I'm trying to make is that you can't blame Oprah for this dumb shit. She's not doing this for fame and fortune, because she already has those things. She's not doing this so Monique's crazy family can become rich and famous. I'm sure that the public opinion of these people is of the low-quality variety, so they're not going to succeed. Oprah just wants to acknowledge the problem. Many victims know their abusers because the abuser is a friend/relative. Other friends/relatives may not support the victim, so this is how abusers get away with murder. That was the whole point of the show.

Timmy84 said:

I agree!!!! They BOTH needed help when they were younger!!!!!

shorttrini said:

????
Why would there be a difference in make-up? And how would it be big enough to no longer make them human? And where is the line drawn?

I can't be too upset because he was only 13. I mean, I know he's supposed to know better but there are kids who just don't at that age and as long as he didn't do it after especially as an adult I think 'maybe' Monique could work on forgiveness.

SUPRMAN said:

In certain studies, the brain make up of criminals is different from non-criminals,(this includes pedophiles). The shape of the brain is different, etc. When I say not make them "human". I am talking about their behavior. To act that way, is inhuman, especially without treatment.

April 22, 2010: MO’NIQUE ‘NOT HAPPY’ WITH OPRAH INTERVIEW

THE FACTS
Mo’Nique has reportedly sworn off speaking to her family following Oprah’s interview with Gerald Imes, the brother she accused of molesting her.

THE SPIN
On Monday, my TV goddess, Oprah, spoke with the brother who Mo’Nique says sexually abused her for years.
In that interview, while Gerald Imes did acknowledge finally that he did inappropriately touch his sister, he refused to call himself the "monster" his sister once described him as.

Moreover, he along with his family members expressed agreement (if not flat out resentment) that Mo’Nique decided to come forward with her story publicly. It seems Imes, along with their brother Stephen and parents, would’ve preferred Mo’Nique kept this issue within their family circle.

For anyone who knows about sexual abuse you could understand why Mo’Nique hasn’t spoken to her family in 2 ½ years. And after this interview, I don’t blame Mo’Nique for never wanting to speak with them again.

They tried to make it seem as if Mo’Nique just suddenly threw them for a loop by acting "normal" with Gerald not realizing that maybe she felt pressure to go along with the family way. Not to mention they seem not to grasp that she very likely was suppressing her anger.

Here’s the scoop on Mo’Nique’s fury via Radar Online:

A source close to Mo’Nique told RadarOnline.com: "Gerald actually made the first move and called Oprah asking her if he could appear on the show."

“So, Oprah called Mo’Nique to see if she was okay about him appearing on her show to discuss the abuse and although she was not entirely happy about it she gave Oprah her blessing."

However, RadarOnline.com has learned that Mo’Nique is less than happy with how Oprah’s interview turned out and her relationship with both her brother and her parents who also appeared on the episode, is now worse than ever.

The source added: "Oprah and Mo’Nique were never the best of friends." Mo’Nique was less than impressed with how the interview played out as she felt that her brother lied and that it was not sympathetic enough towards her.

“She was particularly upset that Gerald lied to Oprah that he molested her while she was sleeping because she was wide awake and scared of him.

“Also, she is angry that he did not get any help or enter a rehab and she does not trust him around children.

Source: TvOneonline.com

SUPRMAN said:

I agree. Brain patterns are irrelevant in this type of discussion, many groups have different brain patterns, plus that research can not decide if that's a cause or an effect of their behaviour and is only usually just done for potential applications in treatment.

shorttrini said:

Okay so if you believe they are somehow fundamentally different to the rest of 'normal' society then why should they be punished for not adhering to OUR (meaning us 'normal' folk) rules, surely by your viewpoint they have some sort of diminished responsibility?

missfee said:

Surprise, surprise. What did I tell ya'll in my post on page 3, this was a farce. The low down dog was lying and he still trying to manipulate the story for his own purpose. This is what these evil people do they don't change, ever. Shame, shame on Ms. Winfrey for taking part in this shit.

AshK said:

Because these people are living in a country where this kind of bevahavor is not tolerated. While I don't think that they should be burned at the stake, I do think that should be left to suffer or be placed on an island somewhere.

Not surprised Monique would be pissed at this.

TD3 said:

Hell yeah and co-sign. Mo'Nique knows her family and she is right to discontinue any contact with them. I'm wondering what the conversation was like between Oprah and Mo before the interview with the Imes family. If Mo communicated to Oprah that the family was still in denial and that any interview would not yield positive results then Oprah is bad for going on with it; blessing or not. Sometimes a blessing just means "do what you've got to do but I don't approve." Plus Oprah could have run this as an article in her magazine. The public didn't need to see this family of fools basically throwing Mo'Nique under the bus. I've got 5 dollars that says some of the viewing audience were probably sympathetic to the Imes.
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