uPtoWnNY said:

Okay your case is different.

DesireeNevermind said:

I have no problem cleaning the George grill. That's easy. If a grown
ass man can't do that he needs to be shot in the ass. I needs a woman
to cook that cheesy mac and collard greens though.

So we've established why guys get married. But uh...why do they get married again? If it didn't work out the first or second time....

DesireeNevermind said:

I guess Larry King will keep doing it until he gets it right.

uPtoWnNY said:

Or until his money runs out.



Make it rain Larry... make it rain!!!!!

phunkdaddy said:

Shit, if a grown ass man can't wash/iron his own clothes, he should be shot in the ass. Can't stand those weak-ass mfers.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You've been quite restrained on this thread. When I see a topic like this I automatically come to see what you've posted. Normally there's a shitstorm the follows right behind you.

Fauxie said:

My education in Spiritual Psychology, apparently, is working! Catch me on an off day, I still have those

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Oh no! It'll ruin you. Don't ever change!

Marriage: very old-fashioned social phenomenon, based on materialism and "pragmatism" (or pure greed, in some cases)

Get that fuckin' paper away from me ; the ties that bind are from the heart...

JoeTyler said:

Why do people on these threads keep repeating the idea that marriage is about a piece of paper? Maybe it's about a diamond ring for some, but I doubt it's that flimsy laser-printed certificate that's attracting everyone.

And I didn't gain anything financially from getting married. Shit, all my husband and I gained were more mouths to feed! (He and I each brought two children to the marriage from previous relationships).

People who choose not to get married are cool with me and I respect that decision; hell, it was my decision too for almost thirty years! So why act like my marriage, or anyone else's, is based on bullshit? That's not very respectful.

PunkMistress said:

who said the truth had to be respectful?

PunkMistress said:

But it is about the piece of paper. It's the piece of paper that makes marriage a legally binding, government recognized contract, not anything else. Even if it feels different, if you go to court or the hospital or try to file taxes and say "Well I feel married so I should be allowed all the legal benefits/rights of marriage" that is not going to stand up -- just ask gays.

jone70 said:

I've never been asked to produce my marriage certificate at any of those places.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Richard, this is not a topic on which I choose to engage with you.

jone70 said:

I think the piece of paper is important, but only for the principle of the fact that some people are not allowed to have it.

I think that for many people, the appeal of marriage and of getting married is making the vow in front of god & family, starting a family, maybe even having sex for the first time, maybe starting adulthood & independence, having a big party, and making your love official--which may or may not include a piece of paper, depending on your culture.

PunkMistress said:

Did I actually crack the armor! My school teaches the following:

How you relate to the issue IS the issue.

I don't know why people get all persnickety in their truth if I'm just simply full of BS on the topic

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I think marriage, like religion, has different truths to different people.

I don't believe in either of them, therefore they are outdated unnecessary beliefs to me. But if you believe in them, that's enough for them to be real to you.

PunkMistress said:

That's great, but it doesn't mean it couldn't happen. I wonder if it would be the same for a same-sex partner trying to make medical decisions, or if you were audited by the IRS, or trying to get health insurance for your partner? (Just wondering...)

jone70 said:

That stuff is why people are fighting for the right to legally get married, but it doesn't mean it's their only reason for wanting to get married.

uPtoWnNY said:

I think a duplex (or side-by-side sailboats) would be ideal.

I wanted to get my Thai family and English family together. It was the most fun I've ever had. Taking the studio pics was a blast. Wearing traditional Thai clothes was pretty cool too. Worth doing for the sheer fun alone. If we'd contented ourselves with just knowing we had a solid, lasting relationship without feeling the need to get married we'd have missed out on all that fun. Having fun is a good thing that I like to do.

Fatherhood? A chance to influence a little guy to love what you love perhaps? I think the term "familyman" goes hand in hand with marriage. Even if he doesn't have children, he'll get puppies and dress them up, kiss and hug them and even play catch with his "babies".

tackam said:

That's the ONLY type of relationship I want to be in. I do NOT want to live with my partner.

Ugh. No, we'll see each other when we want to, not because we have to.

JustErin said:

I read a thing once about a couple who live next door to each other and only pop in for a visit when they can be arsed. They said they were very happy. They both felt independent and also part of a relationship. I think it makes sense. I live with my girlfriend but sometimes we drive each other up the fucking walls. We do have seperate bathrooms though, which I think should be made compulsary.

Number23 said:

I moved out after many years of living with my gf, and nobody could understand it. They were like broken computers

"So you broke up?" "No we just don't live together anymore"

"Why don't you just get married?" "What would that solve?"

"But you can't go backwards, does not compute!!"

I think they're just jealous

It's great, honestly. All those things that drive you nuts, you can just let them do them by themselves while you enjoy some porn.

NDRU said:

Locked into a nastyarse mortgage, mate. But my foot is going through the TV if there's one more E! bad surgery countdown in this house. Emasculated and cornered, that's me. Ready to bite. All I ever was or could be is a fleeting shadow I thought I saw move in the corner of my eye. I should have stayed a nomad.

Number23 said:

Hey that didn't stop me! it's a long story...

Number23 said:

Right? Yeah, I might be able to live in the same house with the right person, maybe, but I am NEVER sharing a bathroom again. Fuck that.

tackam said:

Since my upstairs neighbor is so loud it's like having a husband without the husband