As long as it's hunting animals for food in an environmentally-sensitive way (ie. no endangered species), I support it.
I'm a vegan and I wouldn't do it,personally, but I think it's vastly better than buying meat from the store. "What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?" | |
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I dont mind it if it is for food or population control.
Fox Hunting in the UK is a controversial issue and having thought about it and seen evidence for all sides I have to say I support the hunt as a method of pest control but dont appreciate the sport side to it. By using hounds it means the animal is killed and not left injured or 1/2 dead which would be a problem if other methods are used. In my area they have had massive problems with people shooting foxes but not being a good shot and not bothering to check the animal is dead or find it if they only injure them. Also poisoning or trapping results in long and often painful deaths which can effect other species. Alot of people dont see the need to hunt foxes but after working on a farm where I had to collect numerous dead lambs from a field they are a massive problem. They frequently will kill a whole coup of chickens, if they mearly killed what they needed I dont think farmers would mind as much. If a better method of controling the fox population was found I would support it but currently in my opinion there isnt. With Love there is no Death | |
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dustysgirl said: My husband hunts and is crazy about it. He is insane for waterfowl hunting. He has such a hard time getting up for work in the morning or church on Sundays, but he will set his alarm for 4 a.m. during duck season to get a good spot before everyone else.
We have a freezer full of duck, goose, squirrel, rabbit and venison. I've tried it all, but really can only stand duck meat. I will eat a venison roast if it's cooked right. I'm just not crazy about meat period. I don't have a problem with wild game. In fact, I think it is a healthier choice over factory-farm raised animals. If you are a meat eater, then I don't see why you would have problems with hunting. It's the circle of life. In Michigan, we have such a problem with deer, that they basically have to be hunted. I do eat meat occasionally.I just personally don't share any interest in killing anything. [Edited 4/10/10 21:54pm] Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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b3xy said: I dont mind it if it is for food or population control.
Fox Hunting in the UK is a controversial issue and having thought about it and seen evidence for all sides I have to say I support the hunt as a method of pest control but dont appreciate the sport side to it. By using hounds it means the animal is killed and not left injured or 1/2 dead which would be a problem if other methods are used. Firstly, hunting wild animals with hounds is illegal in the U.K. Secondly, being torn to shreds by a pack of dogs is far more cruel than shooting a fox. Anybody whom hunts is automatically on my shit-list, along with religionists and racists. | |
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Anybody whom hunts is automatically on my shit-list, along with religionists and racists.[/quote]
/\ I used to feel the exact same way, but I've gained a different perspective after talking with some avid hunters. In the US a large amount of money for the preservation of nature comes from these groups. Most hunters have a great respect for nature, play by the rules, and honor the strict quota limits set for each species they are hunting. And as others have mentioned, in many areas hunting is an absolute necessity to conrtol population lest they be taken out by starvation/disease etc... For the record, I don't own a gun and would/could never shoot an animal. Of course there are the stereotypical trophy hunters that we all abhor. No rules/regulations will be able to do anything about those jackasses. | |
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mcmeekle said: thejason said: Hunting isn't my thing but I'm not bothered if people eat what they hunt ...
if it's simply for sport, it makes no sense at all to me.... What about vegetarian hunters? Are they excused from eating their kill? Here, a lot of food pantries happily take venison that people aren't able to use themselves. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: mcmeekle said: What about vegetarian hunters? Are they excused from eating their kill? Here, a lot of food pantries happily take venison that people aren't able to use themselves. That's cool! | |
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Fenwick said: Anybody whom hunts is automatically on my shit-list, along with religionists and racists.
/\ I used to feel the exact same way, but I've gained a different perspective after talking with some avid hunters. In the US a large amount of money for the preservation of nature comes from these groups. Most hunters have a great respect for nature, play by the rules, and honor the strict quota limits set for each species they are hunting. And as others have mentioned, in many areas hunting is an absolute necessity to conrtol population lest they be taken out by starvation/disease etc... For the record, I don't own a gun and would/could never shoot an animal. Of course there are the stereotypical trophy hunters that we all abhor. No rules/regulations will be able to do anything about those jackasses. God, I love reasonable opinions formed from actual observation and learning. Watch out, though, that's not the preferred form of discourse on the internet. You're supposed to choose a very loud and passionate position based on nothing more than emotion and possibly some information from some dubious other website that's full of conspiracy theories and spelling errors. [Edited 4/11/10 7:34am] | |
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Sometimes how one feels about hunting has to do with how they feel about holding a real gun more than about the animals involved.
I don't particularly enjoy the "sport". | |
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PunkMistress said: Fenwick said: /\ I used to feel the exact same way, but I've gained a different perspective after talking with some avid hunters. In the US a large amount of money for the preservation of nature comes from these groups. Most hunters have a great respect for nature, play by the rules, and honor the strict quota limits set for each species they are hunting. And as others have mentioned, in many areas hunting is an absolute necessity to conrtol population lest they be taken out by starvation/disease etc... For the record, I don't own a gun and would/could never shoot an animal. Of course there are the stereotypical trophy hunters that we all abhor. No rules/regulations will be able to do anything about those jackasses. God, I love reasonable opinions formed from actual observation and learning. Watch out, though, that's not the preferred form of discourse on the internet. You're supposed to choose a very loud and passionate position based on nothing more than emotion and possibly some information from some dubious other website that's full of conspiracy theories and spelling errors. It's funny cuz it's true. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: PunkMistress said: God, I love reasonable opinions formed from actual observation and learning. Watch out, though, that's not the preferred form of discourse on the internet. You're supposed to choose a very loud and passionate position based on nothing more than emotion and possibly some information from some dubious other website that's full of conspiracy theories and spelling errors. It's funny cuz it's true. http://videosift.com/vide...howing-102 | |
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MoniGram said: I don't care for the idea of hunting...and well to be honest I don't care for guns.
I can see how an interest in guns creates a need for hunting though. | |
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PunkMistress said: Fenwick said: /\ I used to feel the exact same way, but I've gained a different perspective after talking with some avid hunters. In the US a large amount of money for the preservation of nature comes from these groups. Most hunters have a great respect for nature, play by the rules, and honor the strict quota limits set for each species they are hunting. And as others have mentioned, in many areas hunting is an absolute necessity to conrtol population lest they be taken out by starvation/disease etc... For the record, I don't own a gun and would/could never shoot an animal. Of course there are the stereotypical trophy hunters that we all abhor. No rules/regulations will be able to do anything about those jackasses. God, I love reasonable opinions formed from actual observation and learning. Watch out, though, that's not the preferred form of discourse on the internet. You're supposed to choose a very loud and passionate position based on nothing more than emotion and possibly some information from some dubious other website that's full of conspiracy theories and spelling errors. [Edited 4/11/10 7:34am] Oh yeah!? Well I think I might have read on hear once that someone might have called you a big jurk once upon a time!!! No, maybe it was a really big jerk!!! So leave me alone you, um...you jurk!!! (How'd I do)? | |
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Fenwick said: PunkMistress said: God, I love reasonable opinions formed from actual observation and learning. Watch out, though, that's not the preferred form of discourse on the internet. You're supposed to choose a very loud and passionate position based on nothing more than emotion and possibly some information from some dubious other website that's full of conspiracy theories and spelling errors. [Edited 4/11/10 7:34am] Oh yeah!? Well I think I might have read on hear once that someone might have called you a big jurk once upon a time!!! No, maybe it was a really big jerk!!! So leave me alone you, um...you jurk!!! (How'd I do)? Terrible! You forgot to post a YouTube video of some guy in his living room revealing the TRUE secrets behind hunting, involving aliens, Barack Obama and the Illuminati. | |
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I hate hunting I think it is horrible what people do to innocent creatures. Not only do they hunt yet many times when they are hunting certain animals let's say deer they will put out poison in hamburger meat around the area to kill off any stray dogs, or rodents or whatever happens to eat it. scuzzy, hussy, hoe or just a drunken bitch named .....
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GirlBrother said: b3xy said: I dont mind it if it is for food or population control.
Fox Hunting in the UK is a controversial issue and having thought about it and seen evidence for all sides I have to say I support the hunt as a method of pest control but dont appreciate the sport side to it. By using hounds it means the animal is killed and not left injured or 1/2 dead which would be a problem if other methods are used. Firstly, hunting wild animals with hounds is illegal in the U.K. Secondly, being torn to shreds by a pack of dogs is far more cruel than shooting a fox. Anybody whom hunts is automatically on my shit-list, along with religionists and racists. A. Hunting with hounds is illegal in the UK but doesnt mean its not happening, anyone out there who thinks it isnt happening are just ignoring reality. B. The way a pack of hounds work is there is a lead dog which breaks the fox's neck so it is dead before it is torn apart. Sure it might sound cruel but after seeing foxes which have been shot but not killed walking around with awful injuries at least if the hounds get the fox it dies in seconds rather than walking around with injuries which slowly kills them. C. As for the shit-list, I think you are being a bit extreme. With Love there is no Death | |
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Rise....kill....eat. | |
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I like the romantic aspect of getting out in nature and hunting my food, i.e. the American Indians,
but I can't be bothered to sit in a tree for 8 hours and hope to see a deer. Maybe I'll just get the Cabela's game for PS3 instead. | |
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"not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: That emoticon kills me. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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b3xy said: GirlBrother said: Firstly, hunting wild animals with hounds is illegal in the U.K. Secondly, being torn to shreds by a pack of dogs is far more cruel than shooting a fox. Anybody whom hunts is automatically on my shit-list, along with religionists and racists. A. Hunting with hounds is illegal in the UK but doesnt mean its not happening, anyone out there who thinks it isnt happening are just ignoring reality. B. The way a pack of hounds work is there is a lead dog which breaks the fox's neck so it is dead before it is torn apart. Sure it might sound cruel but after seeing foxes which have been shot but not killed walking around with awful injuries at least if the hounds get the fox it dies in seconds rather than walking around with injuries which slowly kills them. C. As for the shit-list, I think you are being a bit extreme. A. What's your point? Incest is also illegal in the U.K., and I'm sure that happens too. B. Get back to me when you've either been shot in the head or had your neck snapped. Then you can tell me how it really feels. C. Extreme? Killing an animal for pleasure is far more extreme than my feelings against the act. | |
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GirlBrother said: b3xy said: A. Hunting with hounds is illegal in the UK but doesnt mean its not happening, anyone out there who thinks it isnt happening are just ignoring reality. B. The way a pack of hounds work is there is a lead dog which breaks the fox's neck so it is dead before it is torn apart. Sure it might sound cruel but after seeing foxes which have been shot but not killed walking around with awful injuries at least if the hounds get the fox it dies in seconds rather than walking around with injuries which slowly kills them. C. As for the shit-list, I think you are being a bit extreme. A. What's your point? Incest is also illegal in the U.K., and I'm sure that happens too. B. Get back to me when you've either been shot in the head or had your neck snapped. Then you can tell me how it really feels. C. Extreme? Killing an animal for pleasure is far more extreme than my feelings against the act. When I mentioned it was still occuring in the UK even when it was illegal it was only in reference to the fact it is occuring without much change to what was happening before the ban. I really cant see why you bought incest into it maybe you took what I was saying in the wrong way. Thats the point if the fox was shot in the head and killed I would completely agree with it being the correct method for controling the population. But loads of them are not shot in the head and killed automatically, instead they are shot in the leg or wherever which then gets infected and slowly poisons them to death from the infection. Seriously which would you prefer a slow death being poisoned by pus from a wounded or your neck snapped and instant death. To all the people that disagree with the hunt have you ever thought about the rules which the hunt used to follow which they dont with shooting? Instead of only hunting at times of the year when there was no young in the den, you are allowed to shoot foxes anytime of the year. It has been known for people to purposely go out and shoot in the breeding season leaving the young to starve to death in the den. Some animal populations have to be controlled to protect peoples livelihoods whether everyone agree with it or not. As I said previously it is a controversial subject with strong feelings on both sides. With Love there is no Death | |
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I'm a MILF Hunter. | |
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RenHoek said: as long as you eat what you kill, it's fine with me...
now just for trophys, that's just a sick waste! Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'd never be involved with it as a sport, but I'd like to give hunting for food a try. I think I'd feel better about eating meat that I'd killed myself and which had had a chance at survival unlike a farmed animal. I think if you are prepared to eat meat but not kill it, that is questionable. | |
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eikonoklastes said: I'm a MILF Hunter.
i hate that term but your post made me laugh seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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vivid said: I think if you are prepared to eat meat but not kill it, that is questionable.
Exactly! How can you say you eat meat, but hate hunting? Do you not mind the fact that factory-farms raise young animals in usually terrible living conditions, feeding only on soybeans (or worse) for their entire lives, riddled with disease, filled with antibiotics, then slaughtered anyway? Like I said, my husband has been hunting the entire 20 years I've known him. He and all the other hunters I know are ardent about following hunting laws. They will not hunt out of season, kill what's not allowed, or even start shooting before the exact time that DNR sets every season. (Each day has a specific hours you can hunt between). I know there are people who hunt outside of the rules, but most serious hunters do not. Do you also hate the animals that lay in wait, under cover, to attack, kill and eat other animals? | |
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Genesia said: Shorty said: That emoticon kills me. it is kinda funny! I didn't have time yesterday to really comment so that was the best I could come up with, with only a second to spare. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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