JustErin said:

and people give so much of a shit about it, that's what I dont undersatnd...like his cheating was a slap in their face...

blame yourself if you put a public figure on a pedestal and suddenly that dream world comes crashing down...

Graycap23 said:

Gotcha. I'm just saying they might share the same thought, but with a vastly different intent. It was my new favorite thing....WORDPLAY!

thejason said:

Said it before and I'll say it again. Tiger put himself on that pedestal to be admired and made bank off of his image. This "scandal" would have mattered much less to many people had he not created that image for himself.

Mars23 said:

Mars23 said:

Are you kidding me? You don't think that most regular folks put out an image that doesn't totally reflect who they really are?

Of course they do. Tiger is a direct reflection as us as a society.

Mars23 said:

he put himself there?? hmmm...he played a game really well and got paid to smile and endorse shit...
until the shit hit the fan, nobody really knew much about Tigers life off of the course...as public figures go, he was pretty damn private...so I guess saying nothing means you're actually saying alot about yourself???
and he's never been considered a 'friendly' guy..anyone who follows golf knows that he was usually a dick to the galleries that followed him...
the image was created by everyone else, not Tiger...

commercial #2

Tiger's in the club....surrounded by skanks
Friend: Wife's coming!

Tiger: *slips on Nikes* Gotta run, bitches....

(and the ghetto version) Friend: *a la Forrest Gump* Run, nikka....run

shit, maybe I need to go into advertising

thejason said:

When you take money for this:



You are creating an image of yourself.

Wow, I'm speechless...

commercial # 3

for Ford Explorers

*shows Tiger's crashed up whip*

Can't blame this on no stuck floor mat....

Mars23 said:

Ok, so this commercial shows that he inspires kids of both sexes and of all races to play golf and they want to play just like he does...what does that have to do with his marital situation or even him as a person?

Mars23 said:

thieves

JustErin said:

That commercial is not about golf. It says Tiger Woods is a role model for children. You said it yourself "He inspires kids..." Now, some children may be inspired by banging multiple loose women. I know I am. But most children should not be.

So, if you are a parent and your child looks up to Tiger Woods, even if it is just as a golfer, his escapades put you in an unenviable position to explain why everyone is mad at him.

You could argue that his sponsors created his image, but he allowed them to do so.

Mars23 said:

there's no image created there...all that's presented is the reality that he's a great golfer...

thejason said:

I misheard the audio. I thought it was a bunch of kids saying "I'm Tiger Woods" not "Tiger Woods is a great golfer".

Mars23 said:

Ya, while golfing...its about golf and being a great golfer and nothing more.

And I am a parent of a young son, if he adored Tiger and golf...I would be totally fine with that - still...because he would be taught that it's about his golf game and nothing more.

Plus, my son would know NOTHING about his extramarital affairs just like I keep him away from all that kind of garbage tabloid news.

JustErin said:

Erin, if you are successful at keeping him away from that, please tell us all your secret.

Upon further reflection, you might want to tell him about this kind of stuff right up front. Because kids will choose their own heroes.

So what would you tell your son if he chose Tiger Woods as his hero, and then found out about all this stuff?

I've found it's best to tell the kids that heroes are great but they are human and if they've done stuff that's wrong, the kids need to know before they invest their little hearts and souls into them.
[Edited 4/8/10 11:03am]

Tiger's teeing off on #1 to a thunderous ovation right now.

Mars23 said:

No, you heard it exactly right.

Mars23 said:

all anyone has known about Tiger until recently is that he was the worlds top golfer and that he was trained from a young age to reach the top level of golf...anybody that assumed anything else about his private life or his character was creating their own image of him...

thejason said:

I admit, I have an active imagination, but I usually imagine things like hot naked chicks or dogs that can talk.

I don't know how I ever imagined Tiger was a guy that was married, had two kids, shaved everyday, drank Gatorade and drove a Buick.

This commercial, to me, is nothing more than a crappy manipulation.

And Tiger says, 'leave my family out of this,' but he'll pimp out his deceased father to get back into favor with the public?

Please.

Holy shit this is a new low for corporate branding!!!! A new low for civilization!!!

Let's attach this guy's real life problems and history with some freakin shoes to sell MORE. Somehow use this to make our shoes cooler. Make people believe that our products embody true meaning in life.


What was that that "Colonel Kurtz" said in his last note?

RodeoSchro said:

I think everybodys ears are working fine but some folks' perception seems to have gotten skewed...

does anybody really think by those kids saying "I'm Tiger Woods." that they meant they were good citizens, faithful husbands, good fathers, and all around shining examples of moral character???

cut it out, y'all...they simply meant they were trying to be some bad as lil golfers...

thejason said:

No disrespect but pards, you must not watch a lot of TV.

Oh crap. I didn't imagine it, he went on the "Today" show and told me about it...




http://today.msnbc.msn.co...z0kX6rn3jq

Mars23 said:

I think the imagination came in when you assumed he may have been a faithful husband and a good father that shaves everyday, drinks Gatorade and drives a Buick...

oh the children! the poor poor children!!

[snip - CarrieMpls]

One, you don't fuck that many women and your spouse doesn't know about it.

Two, who gives a damn? Are your lives that screwed up that you need to participate in constantly shaming of someone who is no part of your life but through media? What skeletons are you hiding?
[Edited 4/8/10 11:09am]

thejason said:

Preach!!!

Look at all these athletes, actors, rock stars, politicians, even average folks doing the same shit. Seems like half the country's cheating on the other half. But the holier-than-thou types love pointing their finger at Tiger. Last I checked he didn't commit a crime.

Mars23 said:

How is that different from Michael Jordan? He caught more tail than Tiger, but didn't catch the flack Tiger did.