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WTF???!!! DONOVAN MCNABB TRADED TO THE REDSKINS

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April 4, 2010
ESPN reporting McNabb traded to Redskins
The Philadelphia Eagles have traded franchise quarterback Donovan McNabb to the Washington Redskins, ESPN's Adam Schefter is reporting, citing multiple sources.

The Redskins will likely trade their second-round pick this year (No. 37 overall) and either a third- or fourth-round pick in 2011 for McNabb.

The move means both teams in the NFC East will have new starting quarterbacks -- McNabb in Washington and Kevin Kolb in Philadelphia. Michael Vick is still on the Eagles' roster, also.

At the league meetings March 22-24 in Orlando, Eagles coach Andy Reid said the team was listening to offers for all three of its quarterbacks, including 11-year veteran McNabb. Rumored teams included the Oakland Raiders, St. Louis Rams and Minnesota Vikings.


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Reply #1 posted 04/05/10 1:11am

RodeoSchro

They need him. They haven't had a quarterback since Sonny Jurgenson.
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Reply #2 posted 04/05/10 1:17am

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RodeoSchro said:

They need him. They haven't had a quarterback since Sonny Jurgenson.

but why give your rival 90 miles away your whole offense? no brian westbrook, no mcnabb...6-10 easy. book it
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Reply #3 posted 04/05/10 3:40am

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I don't quite understand this trade at this time? confuse Even though they lost Brian Westbrook, the offense itself was being to improve overall, so why trade away your franchise player at this time? Do the Eagles really believe Kevin Kolb will become the next Aaron Rodgers or Matt Cassel, or are they expecting to start Michael Vick next season? Plus why trade him away to one of your division rivals? At least the Green Bay Packers let Brett Favre get picked up by the New York Jets for a season, and the Denver Broncos shipped Jay Cutler to the Chicago Bears, but this move is like the Steelers sending Ben Rothelisbeger to the Baltimore Ravens. It doesn't make much sense.

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Reply #4 posted 04/05/10 3:48am

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What i don't get is why Donovan McNabb always seemed to get
the blame for the Eagles shortcomings versus Andy Reid getting
public scrutiny as well. For years,Reid refused to run the
football consistently and it wasn't until 2004 he made a move
to get Donovan a number one receiver when they got T.O.
For years, they bypassed recievers in the draft.
Apparently the Eagles made this move because this is the only
trade Donovan approved.
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Reply #5 posted 04/05/10 4:03am

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As an eagle fan (and avid McNabb fan) I'm completely baffled by this. I was hoping he was going to go to the vikings if anywhere at all, but this trade just makes no sense however way you want to look at it. Good for Washington, though.
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Reply #6 posted 04/05/10 5:24am

uPtoWnNY

728huey said:

Plus why trade him away to one of your division rivals?



This is a big F-U to Donovan. The Eagles are saying, we're not worried about you because we don't think you have it anymore.
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Reply #7 posted 04/05/10 5:48am

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As a lifelong Skins fan, I have mixed feelings about this development.

I have always liked McNabb. He is consistent, a leader and knows the NFC East. Washington now has a legit franchise QB, for at least a season or two.

But, he is not young and he will get murdered in DC if he doesn't get any help on the line. Also, while McNabb is definitely worth a second round pick, I wish we weren't giving up a pick next year too. I would love to go into the draft with a full compliment of picks, just once. I can't remember the last time that happened.

Finally, I don't think Jason Campbell is as bad as his rep. When he gets protection, which is almost never, he actually plays alright. The Skins have messed with Campbell's mind way too much and I wouldn't be surprised if he actually turns out to be a decent QB if he lands with a team that can protect him. It is certain now, however, that Jason is finished in Washington. I think he was treated poorly in DC and I feel bad for him.
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Reply #8 posted 04/05/10 5:48am

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uPtoWnNY said:

728huey said:

Plus why trade him away to one of your division rivals?



This is a big F-U to Donovan. The Eagles are saying, we're not worried about you because we don't think you have it anymore.


Dude took them to the playoffs the last two years (I'm not even going to mention all the shit he's done for them the past decade), how can they possibly think he's "lost it?" Maybe if they had a running game.....
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Reply #9 posted 04/05/10 5:51am

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uPtoWnNY said:

728huey said:

Plus why trade him away to one of your division rivals?



This is a big F-U to Donovan. The Eagles are saying, we're not worried about you because we don't think you have it anymore.


ESPN is reporting that McNabb really wanted to go to DC so he wouldn't have to uproot his family and Reid was pushing the front office make that happen, even though DC is a division rival. I don't whether that is true, but if it is, props to Reid.
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Reply #10 posted 04/05/10 6:00am

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MajesticOne89 said:

uPtoWnNY said:




This is a big F-U to Donovan. The Eagles are saying, we're not worried about you because we don't think you have it anymore.


Dude took them to the playoffs the last two years (I'm not even going to mention all the shit he's done for them the past decade), how can they possibly think he's "lost it?" Maybe if they had a running game.....


Yeah, I have never understood criticisms of McNabb. I would have LOVED to have him on the Skins a long time ago.
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Reply #11 posted 04/05/10 6:12am

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They treated Donovan like shit since the moment he was drafted, and tried to run him out of town from the very beginning.

Philly doesn't deserve Donovan. Let them rot in last place with Kevin Kolb, who's never done shit in the league and Mike Vick who's best days are far behind him.
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Reply #12 posted 04/05/10 7:13am

uPtoWnNY

Stax said:

MajesticOne89 said:



Dude took them to the playoffs the last two years (I'm not even going to mention all the shit he's done for them the past decade), how can they possibly think he's "lost it?" Maybe if they had a running game.....


Yeah, I have never understood criticisms of McNabb. I would have LOVED to have him on the Skins a long time ago.



I think it was his shaky Super Bowl performance that finally did him in with the fans. My brother's a die-hard Philly fan, and he was fed up with Donovan's inconsistency.
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Reply #13 posted 04/05/10 2:49pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

Stax said:



Yeah, I have never understood criticisms of McNabb. I would have LOVED to have him on the Skins a long time ago.



I think it was his shaky Super Bowl performance that finally did him in with the fans. My brother's a die-hard Philly fan, and he was fed up with Donovan's inconsistency.


The hell with their fans. If it wasn't for McNabb's performance in the
playoffs,their would have been now Super Bowl to begin with. They came
up 3 points short against a very good New England team who may have
been filming their plays anyway.
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Reply #14 posted 04/05/10 2:51pm

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Donovan can no longer play in pressure situations.This was clearly demontrated in the last game against Dallas last year. He looked like a scared rabbit out there.When Vick came into the game, they looked like a totally different team. Unlike Mcnabb, Vick was able to run out of the pocket and make things happen. This will add a another element to their game. Mcnabb, cannot run like he used to and has a tendency to stay in the pocket too long. This makes him an easy target for injury. The Skins however, will gain the leadership and playoff experience that they have so depserately needed for so long.
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Reply #15 posted 04/05/10 2:54pm

uPtoWnNY

phunkdaddy said:

uPtoWnNY said:




I think it was his shaky Super Bowl performance that finally did him in with the fans. My brother's a die-hard Philly fan, and he was fed up with Donovan's inconsistency.


The hell with their fans. If it wasn't for McNabb's performance in the
playoffs,their would have been now Super Bowl to begin with. They came
up 3 points short against a very good New England team who may have
been filming their plays anyway.
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1-4 in NFC title games, 0-1 in the Super Bowl, and those back-to-back losses to Dallas - I guess Philly said enough is enough.

http://www.nydailynews.co...novan.html
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Reply #16 posted 04/05/10 3:12pm

RodeoSchro

uPtoWnNY said:

728huey said:

Plus why trade him away to one of your division rivals?



This is a big F-U to Donovan. The Eagles are saying, we're not worried about you because we don't think you have it anymore.


No, it's the other way around. McNabb put the big F-U on the Eagles.

Donovan McNabb(notes) stood his ground against the Philadelphia Eagles for the second straight year. Now, the question is whether he’ll get his revenge.

After being told last month that the Eagles would not deal him to NFC East-rival Washington, McNabb essentially forced Philadelphia’s hand by refusing to talk with any of the other teams that had expressed interest in recent weeks. In the process, McNabb can now take out his simmering anger on the Eagles’ front office that essentially forced him out of a city where he had played his entire career.

“Frankly, I’m a little shocked,” a source close to McNabb said. “I never thought [the Eagles would] do this. Never. But, yeah, this is the same thing that happened last year.”


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Reply #17 posted 04/05/10 4:31pm

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at least the packers made brett favre wait a year before he torched them. this year, the vikes were 12-4, the pack 11-5. favre destroyed his former team twice and thus that's the difference between wild card and division winner. never never trade in your division---you virtually still play the same teams
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Reply #18 posted 04/05/10 4:37pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

phunkdaddy said:



The hell with their fans. If it wasn't for McNabb's performance in the
playoffs,their would have been now Super Bowl to begin with. They came
up 3 points short against a very good New England team who may have
been filming their plays anyway.
lol


1-4 in NFC title games, 0-1 in the Super Bowl, and those back-to-back losses to Dallas - I guess Philly said enough is enough.

As a huge Eagles fan, that 1-4 title game record has very little to do with McNabb. His biggest receiving threat in all of those games was TE Chad Lewis. No, really, look it up. TO missed until the SB and DeSean Jackson was only a rookie in '08-09. They made the guy throw almost every down and all he had was Chad "Not Bad" Lewis (who then injured himself and couldn't play in the Super Bowl)! Donovan McNabb has done more with less receiving talent than anyone in NFL history. This Eagles fan will always be grateful to him (and, for 14 games a year, I'll still be rooting for him). He's about the only person who could make me root for a Redskin...
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Reply #19 posted 04/05/10 6:25pm

uPtoWnNY

The love/hate for this cat is amazing. Every Eagle fan I know(including my brother) is doing handstands.
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Reply #20 posted 04/05/10 6:31pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

The love/hate for this cat is amazing. Every Eagle fan I know(including my brother) is doing handstands.

I've always been a big supporter of both McNabb and Reid, but I'd have kept McNabb if I could only have one. After finally getting #5 some actual receivers, all this team needed offensively was a big running back, a couple of reliable linemen, and a commitment to the run. I still don't see why they didn't go hard for Thomas Jones or LT to take some pressure off McCoy. I hope Mike Bell will help.
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Reply #21 posted 04/05/10 7:01pm

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AlexdeParis said:

uPtoWnNY said:



1-4 in NFC title games, 0-1 in the Super Bowl, and those back-to-back losses to Dallas - I guess Philly said enough is enough.

As a huge Eagles fan, that 1-4 title game record has very little to do with McNabb. His biggest receiving threat in all of those games was TE Chad Lewis. No, really, look it up. TO missed until the SB and DeSean Jackson was only a rookie in '08-09. They made the guy throw almost every down and all he had was Chad "Not Bad" Lewis (who then injured himself and couldn't play in the Super Bowl)! Donovan McNabb has done more with less receiving talent than anyone in NFL history. This Eagles fan will always be grateful to him (and, for 14 games a year, I'll still be rooting for him). He's about the only person who could make me root for a Redskin...


I agree. There is no way Philly should have even been in the NFC Championship game that year against the Carolina Panthers in that 14-3 home loss. Wasn't
their biggest recieving threat James Thrash? Are you fucking kidding me?
Not to mention no running threat. This is why i can't understand why Donovan always got the brunt of the criticism and not Andy Reid.
As for the losses to Dallas to end the season, Philly had no chance.
They were weak up the middle on both sides of the ball losing Stewart Bradley
on defense and then losing their starting center near the end of the
season. That said Philly has always taking the San Francisco(Ed Debartolo days)approach to dealing with aging players in once a player hits 31,
they show you the door. The problem here is McNabb was surrounded with the
most offensive weapons he has ever had in his career and he only had
one year to work with them. All they needed was another solid offensive
lineman and pass rusher and Philly would have remained one of the elite teams
in the league.
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Reply #22 posted 04/05/10 10:12pm

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Brian Dawkins: Trading McNabb was a mistake

http://www.phillyburbs.co...stake.html
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Reply #23 posted 04/05/10 10:30pm

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Maybe Donovan if the offensive line improves can help
Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly's progession.
Santana Moss and TE Chris Cooley are solid.
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Reply #24 posted 04/06/10 9:21pm

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This trade makes about as much sense, as a one legged man in a ass kickin' contest.
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Reply #25 posted 04/07/10 12:13am

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Without saying it,the Eagles are rebuilding..they've let go of 12 guys this offseason and they were all over 30 or most of them.Their avarage age is now 25yrs old..getting a low 2nd rounder is the best deal they were going to get for him.Division rival means nothing to the Eagles..they traded with the Cowboys last year.Management is so arrogant..no one is smarter than them..Reid (self-appointed genius) has to justify drafting Kolb...
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Reply #26 posted 04/07/10 12:14am

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RodeoSchro said:

They need him. They haven't had a quarterback since Sonny Jurgenson.

but why give your rival 90 miles away your whole offense? no brian westbrook, no mcnabb...6-10 easy. book it

Yeah. My Iggles are gonna get it this season. disbelief

That said, I agree that without line help, Donnie's days are numbered.
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Reply #27 posted 04/07/10 3:20am

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SavonOsco said:

Without saying it,the Eagles are rebuilding..they've let go of 12 guys this offseason and they were all over 30 or most of them.Their avarage age is now 25yrs old..

I wouldn't quite say they are rebuilding. The offense still has lots of weapons, including the best receiving corps of the Reid years led by Jackson, Maclin, and Celek and good running backs in McCoy, Bell, and Weaver. Assuming Jamaal Jackson can come back as center, Kolb and/or Vick should have every opportunity to do some damage (assuming they run the ball, of course). Defensively, there were a lot more holes. Stewart Bradley will solve a lot of problems, but the safety play was stunningly bad last season.
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Reply #28 posted 04/07/10 5:10am

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Defensively, the biggest loss for Philly was the passing of Jimmy Johnson. He meant so much to that unit.
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uPtoWnNY said:

Defensively, the biggest loss for Philly was the passing of Jimmy Johnson. He meant so much to that unit.

No slight to JJ, but I think the loss of Stewart Bradley was the biggest. They had to bring Jeremiah Trotter out of retirement! I actually think the loss of Dawkins was also more important than Johnson. Anyway, losing all 3 is a killer.
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