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Why Detroit Autos suck Seriously...why don't they learn their lessons?
Over a DECADE ago there was (supposedly) a "push" from Detroit automakers to catch up with Japan when it comes to turning their concept cars into production vehicles. The Japanese have proven that with less time & redesign, they could churn out street-ready cars from their fancy concepts. Americans were/are notorious for producing heart-stopping concept cars that generate alot of excitement then either fail to be produced or take so long to be produced with so many redesigns that they cease to be relevant. Now, after lagging behind on the electic vehicle for far too long, GM wowed us with their promised Chevy Volt. 
Look at that baby! The excitement it generated was enormous. Then, of course, the pencil-pushers get their hands in the mix, and the car goes through redesigns for production.  ...and what we will actually be able to buy is something like this;
Are you f*king serious? The first Toyota Prius from a DECADE ago was more exciting to look at than that lemon! I mean, really. 
Why, Detroit...why???? By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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The first car I bought with my own money was a 1982 Buick Skyhawk. I got rid of it in 1985...and haven't driven an American-made car since (unless you count two Hondas that were built in Ohio). We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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I love my 2008 Ford Mustang convertible and will put it up against any car on the road. | |
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Genesia said: The first car I bought with my own money was a 1982 Buick Skyhawk. I got rid of it in 1985...and haven't driven an American-made car since (unless you count two Hondas that were built in Ohio).
However, the Buick Skylark was based on the same platform as the Pontiac Grand Am and was a fairly decent car. My first boss had one and it drove great. You just got the wrong bird.  By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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PurpleJedi said: Genesia said: The first car I bought with my own money was a 1982 Buick Skyhawk. I got rid of it in 1985...and haven't driven an American-made car since (unless you count two Hondas that were built in Ohio).
However, the Buick Skylark was based on the same platform as the Pontiac Grand Am and was a fairly decent car. My first boss had one and it drove great. You just got the wrong bird. Okay, did you ever look at a 1982 Skylark?  
I got rid of it in 1985 because I've never had a car longer than three years. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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RodeoSchro said: I love my 2008 Ford Mustang convertible and will put it up against any car on the road.
Mustang.... 
That's my dream car... a '67 or '69 Mustang...preferably a convertible!!! By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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Genesia said: PurpleJedi said:
However, the Buick Skylark was based on the same platform as the Pontiac Grand Am and was a fairly decent car. My first boss had one and it drove great. You just got the wrong bird. Okay, did you ever look at a 1982 Skylark?
I got rid of it in 1985 because I've never had a car longer than three years.
Well...I did preface my thread by bitchin' about STYLING from Detroit...! I mean, my first car was an '88 Grand Am and I loved it. The Skylark was the "old man's car" and it definitely looked it! By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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PurpleJedi said: Genesia said: Okay, did you ever look at a 1982 Skylark?
I got rid of it in 1985 because I've never had a car longer than three years.
Well...I did preface my thread by bitchin' about STYLING from Detroit...! I mean, my first car was an '88 Grand Am and I loved it. The Skylark was the "old man's car" and it definitely looked it! This is what I'm sayin'!
The Grand Am was a nice-looking car back in the day.  We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: PurpleJedi said:
Well...I did preface my thread by bitchin' about STYLING from Detroit...! I mean, my first car was an '88 Grand Am and I loved it. The Skylark was the "old man's car" and it definitely looked it! This is what I'm sayin'!
The Grand Am was a nice-looking car back in the day.
I miss that car...oh the memories!!! By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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Genesia said: PurpleJedi said:
Well...I did preface my thread by bitchin' about STYLING from Detroit...! I mean, my first car was an '88 Grand Am and I loved it. The Skylark was the "old man's car" and it definitely looked it! This is what I'm sayin'!
The Grand Am was a nice-looking car back in the day. grand ams were decent looking cars....but they were uber shitty...like mega uber | |
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PurpleJedi said: The Skylark was the "old man's car" and it definitely looked it!
Buick GNX...later known as the Grand national....same body as the skylark...hardly looks like an old man car to me.... all the cars that were built on this body...the cutlass, the monte carlo, grand prix, skylark; we're all good looking, imo... | |
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moderatorOK, enough berating my precious Grand Am!!! 
Back to the topic... ...consider the latest generation of Prius and the soon-to-be-available Nissan Leaf; 
Does that crappy production-version Volt have ANY chance of making it??? By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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PurpleJedi said: RodeoSchro said: I love my 2008 Ford Mustang convertible and will put it up against any car on the road.
Mustang....
That's my dream car... a '67 or '69 Mustang...preferably a convertible!!! I want a '70 Mustang Boss 302 but seriously, the new Mustangs are so perfect that maybe a 2010 Shelby would be more fun. | |
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thejason said: PurpleJedi said: The Skylark was the "old man's car" and it definitely looked it!
Buick GNX...later known as the Grand national....same body as the skylark...hardly looks like an old man car to me.... all the cars that were built on this body...the cutlass, the monte carlo, grand prix, skylark; we're all good looking, imo... Def a 'guido' car 4 sure! By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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RodeoSchro said: PurpleJedi said: Mustang....
That's my dream car... a '67 or '69 Mustang...preferably a convertible!!! I want a '70 Mustang Boss 302 but seriously, the new Mustangs are so perfect that maybe a 2010 Shelby would be more fun. Yeah, the new ones are cool.
Aren't you glad Ford never switched the Mustang to the Probe platform? By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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thejason said: PurpleJedi said: The Skylark was the "old man's car" and it definitely looked it!
Buick GNX...later known as the Grand national....same body as the skylark...hardly looks like an old man car to me.... all the cars that were built on this body...the cutlass, the monte carlo, grand prix, skylark; we're all good looking, imo... That is not a Buick Skylark. It is a Regal. I'd know those opera windows anywhere. The GNX/Grand National was built on the Regal platform. My mom drove one. Black with a vinyl landau roof and a burgundy interior. (My dad was in the car business. We always got the new models the second they came out.) We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: thejason said:
Buick GNX...later known as the Grand national....same body as the skylark...hardly looks like an old man car to me.... all the cars that were built on this body...the cutlass, the monte carlo, grand prix, skylark; we're all good looking, imo... That is not a Buick Skylark. It is a Regal. I'd know those opera windows anywhere. The GNX/Grand National was built on the Regal platform. My mom drove one. Black with a vinyl landau roof and a burgundy interior. (My dad was in the car business. We always got the new models the second they came out.) yeah...regal...my bad skylarks were ugly...  [Edited 3/30/10 14:07pm] | |
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I just got back from a trip to Detroit/Rochester
I don't care ... I will always Love Detroit  | |
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Mach said: I just got back from a trip to Detroit/Rochester
I don't care ... I will always Love Detroit
Detroit doesn't suck...their design teams do. By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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My understanding is that the original Volt concept was toned down everywhere it could to provide a low cost point and increased highway mileage.
The electric Cadillac is supposed to be closer to the original Concept design. That said... You are DEAD RIGHT on Detroit putting out sweet ass concept cars. The HY-Wire had be DROOLING for a Hydrogen fuel cell. That was so long ago..... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Still it's nice to know, when our bodies wear out, we can get another -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |
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Mars23 said:[quote] PurpleJedi said:
Yuck Now I'm older than movies, Now I'm wiser than dreams, And I know who's there
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paintsprayer said:[quote] Mars23 said: PurpleJedi said:
Yuck co-sign | |
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MajesticOne89 said: paintsprayer said: Yuck co-sign 
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PurpleJedi said: MajesticOne89 said: co-sign
I'm a mustang guy | |
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MajesticOne89 said: PurpleJedi said:
I'm a mustang guy yuck Now I'm older than movies, Now I'm wiser than dreams, And I know who's there
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It's wierd.
American cars normally can't do 'flashy' like Italian or Japanese, nor 'understated elegance' like the Germans. It's like the big-5 didn't bother getting artists into the act. They need Steve Jobs. | |
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TheVoid said: They need Steve Jobs. yuck Pininfarina Now I'm older than movies, Now I'm wiser than dreams, And I know who's there
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