I dont think he's feminine at all...and never really had a sense of him being gay...but I dont really give a damn how anybody gets their orgasm, so it was a non issue for me... | |
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I think it's another case of there being some truth to stereotypes, but it is not written in stone. That is why they created the term "meterosexual" in the first place. They are exceptions to a rule, and growing in numbers to the point that someone decided to label them as a new stereotype. My Legacy
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DesireeNevermind said: I think being pretty has nothing to do with being gay or straight anymore than being ugly has to do with being mean or being fat has to do with being sick. It's amazing how we associate the way a person looks with their character, intelligence, sexual orientation or state of physical health. As a joke, I get it but I think some people are not joking and actually believe that looks dictate everyting else about a person.
I've seen some ass ugly gay dudes ( I mean I wouldn't fuck them if I had a dick and some sanitizer) and I've seen some painfully gorgeous straight guys - too pretty to even talk to. I've seen some pretty lesbos and some ugly ones too. I think if people are honing into a person's sexuality it has nothing to do with their looks and everything to do with the energy they give off, how they carry themselves and the way they speak. Also, how they approach the question if asked. Gay guys almost always avoid the question altogether unless they are comfortably open to begin with. A straight guy has no problem saying he's straight. The question is asked and answered in under 10 secs. carry on. That is what I am trying to convey I guess... Im not sayin all gay guys are pretty, but when it came to ricky martin and george michael it was just something I didnt even question... Which if you think about it, that is part of their "look" which to me is pretty [Edited 4/1/10 11:01am] ~~~~~ Oh that voice...incredible....there should be a musical instrument called George Michael... ~~~~~ | |
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thejason said: I dont think he's feminine at all...and never really had a sense of him being gay...but I dont really give a damn how anybody gets their orgasm, so it was a non issue for me...
That is exactly what I think as well... even tho I seem to be digging myself in a hole because I cant find the right words to get my point across... ~~~~~ Oh that voice...incredible....there should be a musical instrument called George Michael... ~~~~~ | |
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tinaz said: DesireeNevermind said: I think being pretty has nothing to do with being gay or straight anymore than being ugly has to do with being mean or being fat has to do with being sick. It's amazing how we associate the way a person looks with their character, intelligence, sexual orientation or state of physical health. As a joke, I get it but I think some people are not joking and actually believe that looks dictate everyting else about a person.
I've seen some ass ugly gay dudes ( I mean I wouldn't fuck them if I had a dick and some sanitizer) and I've seen some painfully gorgeous straight guys - too pretty to even talk to. I've seen some pretty lesbos and some ugly ones too. I think if people are honing into a person's sexuality it has nothing to do with their looks and everything to do with the energy they give off, how they carry themselves and the way they speak. Also, how they approach the question if asked. Gay guys almost always avoid the question altogether unless they are comfortably open to begin with. A straight guy has no problem saying he's straight. The question is asked and answered in under 10 secs. carry on. That is what I am trying to convey I guess... Im not sayin all gay guys are pretty, but when it came to ricky martin and george michael it was just something I didnt even question... Which if you think about it, that is part of their "look" which to me is pretty [Edited 4/1/10 11:01am] I don't know how anybody could have ever thought that George Michael was straight. | |
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tinaz said: NDRU said: But don't you think there are gay cowboys & farmers and straight guys with white smiles? Oh sure, there are gay farmers and cowboys, but I havent met any that are HOT! And million dollar smile to me doesnt mean white... It means light up a room cuz you are GORGEOUS when you smile Here you go! Gay rodeo guy from Big Brother that is now doing porn. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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DesireeNevermind said: I don't know how anybody could have ever thought that George Michael was straight.
I'm no expert, but way back in the day when he was telling me to do the jitterbug and that somebody put the boom-boom into his heart...I knew... | |
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thejason said: DesireeNevermind said: I don't know how anybody could have ever thought that George Michael was straight.
I'm no expert, but way back in the day when he was telling me to do the jitterbug and that somebody put the boom-boom into his heart...I knew... I think he wanted to put his HARD in your BOOM BOOM. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: tinaz said: Oh sure, there are gay farmers and cowboys, but I havent met any that are HOT! And million dollar smile to me doesnt mean white... It means light up a room cuz you are GORGEOUS when you smile Here you go! Gay rodeo guy from Big Brother that is now doing porn. Honey, they didnt grow em like that in my neck of the woods.. ~~~~~ Oh that voice...incredible....there should be a musical instrument called George Michael... ~~~~~ | |
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thejason said: DesireeNevermind said: I don't know how anybody could have ever thought that George Michael was straight.
I'm no expert, but way back in the day when he was telling me to do the jitterbug and that somebody put the boom-boom into his heart...I knew... I seriously had no idea... I just wanted to shag him! But then that was back in the day when I it just never occured to me... [Edited 4/1/10 11:11am] ~~~~~ Oh that voice...incredible....there should be a musical instrument called George Michael... ~~~~~ | |
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thejason said: DesireeNevermind said: I don't know how anybody could have ever thought that George Michael was straight.
I'm no expert, but way back in the day when he was telling me to do the jitterbug and that somebody put the boom-boom into his heart...I knew... Well, damn. There's a song I won't be getting out of my head now. | |
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Efan said: thejason said: I'm no expert, but way back in the day when he was telling me to do the jitterbug and that somebody put the boom-boom into his heart...I knew... Well, damn. There's a song I won't be getting out of my head now. that being said, he's always been one of my favorite singers... | |
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I can't stand Ricky's music, but other than that, there's not a damn thing wrong with him. He's a 10+ in my book.
I always thought everyone knew he was gay. Even though he didn't talk about it, it was a pretty open secret, like Queen Latifah and Jodie Foster. | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: Here you go! Gay rodeo guy from Big Brother that is now doing porn. Steven Daigle! I follow his Twitter with my Big Brother twitter account. He is indeed starting in porn with Chi Chi LaRue. | |
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tinaz said: Serious said: Our different tastes once again .... Ricky Martin may be pretty, but not sexy at all IMO that's why I didn't even realize he was pretty for a long time . He's the perfect example of a man who is good looking, but extremely boring without any style or anything special IMO. And I never thought that George Michael was hot either . I would never give them a second look if they walked down the street. OMGGGGG LMAO! George Michael is like one of the HOTTEST things with 2 legs!! So tell me, who do you find HOT! Im soooo curious!!! The hottest man in the world for me is my bf . I can orgnote you photos of him if you are interested what he looks like . When it comes to celebrities back in the day I thought Prince was hot, but I am not interested in older men . Who else ... Dave Navarro, Marcello Rios (even though he is more pretty than hot), Dennis Rodman (even though he is tall and ugly, but he has charisma ), Johnny Depp, when he was younger Terence Trent D'Arby (even though he is too tall for my liking too, but he is pretty hot in person), Enrique Iglesias is good looking but very boring too. I am sure there are more who I am forgetting right now. There was a thread here recently about the best looking men and women and there was a celebrity who looked really hot, but I don't remember his name . [Edited 4/1/10 11:20am] With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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I agree with DesireeNevermind and Ernestsewell. MICHAEL JACKSON
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DesireeNevermind said: I don't know how anybody could have ever thought that George Michael was straight.
He was a straight man, and lived as one until he was about 28. Well known story. But when he started side stepping sexuality questions, that is when it was obvious that he was gay. Plus, as I've said before, if folks will listen to the OLDER album, they'll hear a lot of honesty in those lyrics. Fans knew he was coming out on that album to them. | |
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Serious said: tinaz said: OMGGGGG LMAO! George Michael is like one of the HOTTEST things with 2 legs!! So tell me, who do you find HOT! Im soooo curious!!! The hottest man in the world for me is my bf . I can orgnote you photos of him if you are interested what he looks like . When it comes to celebrities back in the day I thought Prince was hot, but I am not interested in older men . Who else ... Dave Navarro, Marcello Rios (even though he is more pretty than hot), Dennis Rodman (even though he is tall and ugly, but he has charisma ), Johnny Depp, when he was younger Terence Trent D'Arby (even though he is too tall for my liking too, but he is pretty hot in person), Enrique Iglesias is good looking but very boring too. I am sure there are more who I am forgetting right now. Id love to see him! I mean husbands and boyfriends aside You seem to have the same taste as my daughter... She likes the rougher, scruffier looking guys where as I like them polished Terence trent is tall??? I love him btw! ~~~~~ Oh that voice...incredible....there should be a musical instrument called George Michael... ~~~~~ | |
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ernestsewell said: DesireeNevermind said: I don't know how anybody could have ever thought that George Michael was straight.
He was a straight man, and lived as one until he was about 28. Well known story. But when he started side stepping sexuality questions, that is when it was obvious that he was gay. Plus, as I've said before, if folks will listen to the OLDER album, they'll hear a lot of honesty in those lyrics. Fans knew he was coming out on that album to them. ~~~~~ Oh that voice...incredible....there should be a musical instrument called George Michael... ~~~~~ | |
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tinaz said: Serious said: The hottest man in the world for me is my bf . I can orgnote you photos of him if you are interested what he looks like . When it comes to celebrities back in the day I thought Prince was hot, but I am not interested in older men . Who else ... Dave Navarro, Marcello Rios (even though he is more pretty than hot), Dennis Rodman (even though he is tall and ugly, but he has charisma ), Johnny Depp, when he was younger Terence Trent D'Arby (even though he is too tall for my liking too, but he is pretty hot in person), Enrique Iglesias is good looking but very boring too. I am sure there are more who I am forgetting right now. Id love to see him! I mean husbands and boyfriends aside You seem to have the same taste as my daughter... She likes the rougher, scruffier looking guys where as I like them polished Terence trent is tall??? I love him btw! I am gonna send you an orgnote . You are right I don't like polished guys . But my taste changed, I hated men with muscles, tattoos or piercings when I was younger. Yes he is tall, everybody thinks he is small, but he is pretty tall. I usually don't like tall men, but he has a lot of charisma in person and if I would not have been in a relationship at that time I might have done him . With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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tinaz said: ernestsewell said: He was a straight man, and lived as one until he was about 28. Well known story. But when he started side stepping sexuality questions, that is when it was obvious that he was gay. Plus, as I've said before, if folks will listen to the OLDER album, they'll hear a lot of honesty in those lyrics. Fans knew he was coming out on that album to them. Are you guys defining straight as: 1) having slept with only women 2) having slept with men and women 3) having never slept with men or women but pretended to be sleeping with women Georgie had to fall in line with either 2 or 3. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: tinaz said: Are you guys defining straight as: 1) having slept with only women 2) having slept with men and women 3) having never slept with men or women but pretended to be sleeping with women Georgie had to fall in line with either 2 or 3. I'm defining straight as what he believed to be his personal truth at the time. That's the only definition that counts. He had some beautiful girlfriends he was shagging. That Asian chick in the "I Want Your Sex" video - that was his girlfriend. She was a makeup artist. | |
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thejason said: Efan said: Well, damn. There's a song I won't be getting out of my head now. that being said, he's always been one of my favorite singers... Listen Without Prejudice is GENIUS!!!!! MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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DesireeNevermind said: Are you guys defining straight as: Straight: Your cock gets hard only with women Easy, very easy... | |
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DesireeNevermind said: I don't know how anybody could have ever thought that George Michael was straight.
I thought the tighty whitey shorts were a big clue, and I was what 11-12 years old? I think I was like what a cute white guy...no crushing. And that was when George was like Bo Duke level of fineness! | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: thejason said: that being said, he's always been one of my favorite singers... Listen Without Prejudice is GENIUS!!!!! one of my top 10 favorite albums by anyone...that motherfucker was on point with that one... | |
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ernestsewell said: DesireeNevermind said: Are you guys defining straight as: 1) having slept with only women 2) having slept with men and women 3) having never slept with men or women but pretended to be sleeping with women Georgie had to fall in line with either 2 or 3. I'm defining straight as what he believed to be his personal truth at the time. That's the only definition that counts. He had some beautiful girlfriends he was shagging. That Asian chick in the "I Want Your Sex" video - that was his girlfriend. She was a makeup artist. I thought it later came out that she was just a beard. I see what you're saying about his truth but his truth also impacts the people he's involved with and therefore while it's important, it's not the only definition that counts. | |
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ernestsewell said: DesireeNevermind said: Are you guys defining straight as: 1) having slept with only women 2) having slept with men and women 3) having never slept with men or women but pretended to be sleeping with women Georgie had to fall in line with either 2 or 3. I'm defining straight as what he believed to be his personal truth at the time. That's the only definition that counts. He had some beautiful girlfriends he was shagging. That Asian chick in the "I Want Your Sex" video - that was his girlfriend. She was a makeup artist. Yeah, Boy George, said that she was his fag hag before George Michaels. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: ernestsewell said: I'm defining straight as what he believed to be his personal truth at the time. That's the only definition that counts. He had some beautiful girlfriends he was shagging. That Asian chick in the "I Want Your Sex" video - that was his girlfriend. She was a makeup artist. Yeah, Boy George, said that she was his fag hag before George Michaels. well that settles it. GM was never straight. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: ernestsewell said: I'm defining straight as what he believed to be his personal truth at the time. That's the only definition that counts. He had some beautiful girlfriends he was shagging. That Asian chick in the "I Want Your Sex" video - that was his girlfriend. She was a makeup artist. I thought it later came out that she was just a beard. I see what you're saying about his truth but his truth also impacts the people he's involved with and therefore while it's important, it's not the only definition that counts. From what he said it sounded like he used to hook up with a lot of women back in the 80's. Personally I feel like a guy like GM thinks women are beautiful, and had sex with them, maybe was even attracted to them to some degree. But even so I have a hard time believing he was ever straight. I believe he tried to be straight, and it didn't work for him. My Legacy
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