I just spoke to an old time professor here at the Uni in Bangkok, and he's insisting that because I am a "Luk Krueng" or 'half Thai' and that my mom is a Thai citizen, it would be extremely easy for me to obtain a Thai passport.

I'm seriously considering doing this. The US doesn't recognize dual citizenship but Thailand does. In other words, it would be valid to Thailand but not to the US. But this is of little concern to me since I was at one time considering a UK citizenship (UK allows dual as well).

Anyways, has anyone gone through this process? How difficult was it to get a dual citizenship? Are there any drawbacks?

I haven't gone through this process nor do I have dual citizenship. Maybe someone else can help.

Number23 said:

TheVoid said:

Sorry, I was trying to imagine how vacuous and facetious it must feel to be a certain moderator.

Number23 said:

I don't even want to know.

ya know, for some reason, not that long ago, we were discussing something about you possibly qualifying for dual citizenship.
I meant to ask you about it and forgot.

Our baby will have dual citizenship, lucky bugger.

I read that I could not have dual citizenship because if I do that I would have to give up my US citizenship.


I just passed my "Life in the UK" test today btw.


It was harder than I thought it would be.

MrsMdiver said:

Actually, you can do a dual citizenship and not give up your US citizenship.

The US used to have a 'our way or the high way' rule, but since the Clinton Administration it's been a 'We won't ask if you don't tell' sort of an attitude.

TheVoid said:

Strange. My German literature professor ( she´s an American Literature professor) couldn´t get the American citizenship because she didn´t want to give up her German citizenship so she only had a greencard because her husband was American but she said it was the Germans who were against dual citizenship, not the Americans. She said that the Americans didn´t mind at all and that there are thousands, if not millions, of Americans with dual or even triple citizenships.

TheVoid said:

You could have congratulated me

We checked into my dual citizenship thingy, I was told that if my Italian grandfather had been born in Italy and not US then I could qualify for dual.
He was the first child in his family to be born in US...figures.
My dad's family is totally useless.

KoolEaze said:

The US government doesn't support dual citizenships, but it has a 'turn the other way' attitude right now.

I'm not sure about the German government, but I guess reading from your post, they're still hanging on to some of that good 'ole nationalist history.

It's different for each country but it seems to change ever generation or so for each country too.

For some countries it's quite difficult even if it's possible. For Thailand, I was just told tonight that it would be very easy if one of my parents were Thai.

I just don't know anyone who's been through the process.

MrsMdiver said:

oh.

Well, at least you can always come back to the US were the food is better.

I have dual citizenship in Ireland and the US.

I still have to apply for my passport, though. In Ireland I'm automatically a dual citizen without having to do anything since my mother was born there, but I do still have to go through the process to get a dual-citizen passport.

TheVoid said:

You still did not congratulate me.

MrsMdiver said:

Congratulations

PunkMistress said:

Is immigration to Ireland still easy?


I heard 2 years ago that the economy was booming there but that they didn't have enough qualified workers for many sectors of the economy so they adopted very liberal immigration policies to recruit more people in to the workforce. I'm told several Irish cities are very diverse with all sorts of foods from all over due to this.

But then again, I was listening to NPR news while driving in Tampa traffic.

TheVoid said:

Thank you!

TheVoid said:

The old laws were a bit racist in the sense that you had to have "German blood" in you to become a German citizen but they changed that law ten years ago from "ius sangui" to "ius soli", just like in the UK and France.
Dual citizenships are only allowed if you had yours before the new laws were passed, but many Jewish Germans from Russia are allowed to have two or three citizenships. Turks have to decide at the age of 18 whether they want to keep their old citizenship or apply for the German one, but you´re only allowed to have ONE citizenship. Most German con artists and other smalltime gangsters still have their dual ones though....don´t ask me how they do it.

My American friends had to decide at the age of 18 whether they wanted to keep their German citizenship (and get rid of their American citizenships) or keep the American one and get rid of the German one, so most of them opted for the German passport.
It´s still a mystery to me how some really bright and law abiding citizens have to settle for ONE citizenship and some really fucked up people are allowed to have two, sometimes three citizenships.
Never really understood that. The same goes for German entertainers of questionable talent.

Congrats for passing

TheVoid said:

Half Thai, half American, half British.

Er... I'm not the worlds best at maths, but even I know there's something wrong there.

my son has dual citizenship for USA & Brazil. it was super easy! just filled out one form & paid a small fee. showed his birth certificate at the brazilian consulate in san francisco & proof that we are his parents. so when he's an adult he can choose where he wants to live with no problem.

TheVoid said:

I really don't know.

If it weren't for the joint custody situation we have with Chris's kids, we'd have taken them and moved there already. But as it stands we're stuck in Hernando County until 2017.

PunkMistress said:

hmm..
what about if a grandparent was born there..??

PunkMistress said:

You´d seriously leave a tropical, sunny, warm and mellow place in Florida for a cold, rainy and often dark and windy place like Ireland? Really? And you describe your situation as being "stuck in Hernando County"?

Whaaaa? Why? What´s wrong with being in the Sunshine State?

Irish folks, please don´t get me wrong...but seriously, who wouldn´t want to live in Florida?

KoolEaze said:

the people who live in Florida...
it can be so...--- sometimes..
there aren't even words for it

KoolEaze said:

For a family their size, healthcare alone is a good reason to go.
You can go absolutely broke with medical bills here in the USA, and
PunkMistress requires medical care (not a slight--just the truth).

Plus, you get over the weather depending on the overall 'atmosphere'.
I absolutely LOVED London and Wales despite how crappy the weather was.

KoolEaze said:

I grew up in a vibrant Northeastern city (Cambridge, MA). It's full of universities, bookstores, and people from all over the world. There was always something to do, it was extremely diverse and multicultural, and tons of community activities to get involved in. Not to mention all the amazing restaurants, cafes and music clubs on nearly every corner.

We now live in a suburb an hour north of Tampa, in a county that is still in many ways the Deep South. This ain't Orlando or Miami. There is a fucking Hanging Tree that still has a place of honor in a nearby town. HANGING TREE. As in, actual black human beings were lynched, MURDERED, on that tree and it hasn't been chopped the fuck down, but considered a historical something-or-other. If you want to go out to dinner and don't want to drive a two-hour round trip, it's Applebee's or Chili's. There's nothing for teens to do but hang out in parking lots and drink.

Don't get me wrong, I love the weather, the safety of my neighborhood, the ease of parking, and lots of other things about where we are. But a city like Dublin would feel much more like home to me than where I live now.

As for Christopher, he's lived here since he was 13 and knows this rinky-dink town like the back of his hand. He's DYING to experience life somewhere else.

Hope that answers your question.

TheVoid said:

And I didn't even mention the healthcare, but YES, that alone would be reason enough. I require lots of medical care and always will. Even though I have health insurance, we have tens of thousands of dollars' worth of unpaid medical bills that we are responsible for and cannot pay. I'm only 31 now. That figure will only climb higher and higher.

I would never move to Florida! Though, I have enjoyed the times I have visited.

I'd be in Ireland over that place in a heartbeat.

CarrieMpls said:

Florida was an always will be absolutely superior to every other place in the States other than possibly California or New York though.

PunkMistress said:

I'm not making fun of Chris, but of all the places in Tampa that I would have chosen to live, Spring Hill would not have been it.

I quite love Tampa--but I would chose very carefully the 'burbs'.