I have to admit I drink diet soda a lot, and I know that aspartame is god awful, but high-fructose corn syrup is even worse. Sucralose probably is just as bad as aspartame; it's just too new to have any studies of its adverse effects.

What they need to do is bring back sugar-based soda products for regular consumption, and for dieters and diabetics they should use stevia as a sweetener. Stevia is natural and has no adverse side effects, and it is already used in Japan, Europe, and South America.

GirlBrother said:

I'd rather be psychotic than fat. No-one would have killed for Charlie Manson if he was a chubby cunt. Fat and psychotic, though? Man, that's a bad hand. That's Henry the Eighth. And there was no aspertame around back then either, just roasted boar and incest.

TheVoid said:

That´s true but most of the natural toothpastes really taste horrible...and I´ve tried a lot of them.
I avoid aspartame as much as possible but most of my protein powders contain it, and even those who say "aspartame free" contain some kind of dubious sweetener. If it´s not aspartame, they simply put other stuff in it, like saccharin or whatever.

I´d much rather eat white sugar instead of aspartame or high fructose corn syrup. Too bad that aspartame is almost unstoppable now. And you can´t even avoid over here these days.

Number23 said:

Lead. The rich used to rub lead into their skin to make themselves paler, and lead is a neuro-toxin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead

http://www.newbeauty.com/...px?ID=1063

ernestsewell said:

True, true. I wonder how much stock he still has in aspartame, and how much money it brings him annually. That dude is from around here, by the way. His sister lives very close to where I live ( in Germany) and I think she still owns a jewelry store here.He used to visit her regularly up until the late 80s.

GirlBrother said:

Nowt as queer as folk. Maybe that's what sent MJ bongo.

Update: March 2010 - Aspartame has been renamed and is now being marketed as a natural sweetener - called AminoSweet. Don't be fooled.. it is the same old toxic substance!
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by Nancy Markle

I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on "ASPARTAME marketed as 'NutraSweet', 'Equal', and Spoonful"'. In the keynote address by the EPA, they announced that there was an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus, and they did not understand what toxin was causing this to be rampant across the United States. I explained that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.

When the temperature of Aspartame exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. (Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants. read more: http://www.besthealth.com...artame.htm

(is this a theory or a real finding?)

Remember Dynasty, when Adam painted Jeff Colby's office at Colby Co with poison paint?

Jeff divorced Fallon after strangling her; gave all his Denver Carrington shares to Alexis and married Kirby, the butler's daughter.

This is comparable to the effects of drinking one Diet Coke a day.

GirlBrother said:

They should add that in as a final paragraph in the next edition of the Bible.

Number23 said:

I'm writing it. I'm going to call it 'The Next Testament'. It's going to be about the teachings of the real J.C.

GirlBrother said:

Well, Dynasty was an analogy for the Biblical story of Adam and his troublesome sons. I guess Alexis was the snake and Crystal's repeated failure to conceive is a euphamism for the Original Sin manifest in all Eve's offspring, infected with mortality, birthing death as the shadow cast by all with eyes to see and define it.

squirrelgrease said:

paintsprayer said:

I remember reading that but people don't believe it when you try to tell them. I use either sugar, honey or stevia.

babynoz said:

Oh, I loves me some Stevia!

aspertame or sucra

They leave a taste in my mouth.

I stay away from anything containing those substitute sweeteners.

ernestsewell said:

I can't stand the aftertaste. I tried a vitamin water made with stevia last night, and I spit it out.

i used to have it in my coffee all the time but it made me sick the more I had it now I use this

veronikka said:

Completely natural, and a favorite of raw veganists. Plus it has a low glycemic count and mild flavor. I used to use the stuff all the time.

veronikka said:

Oh, is that good? Is it good in other stuff? Is it like honey (consistency, use, taste, etc)?

ernestsewell said:

I sweetens things perfectly.
The flavor is very mild though---honey is much more pronounced and distinct. Agave is actually almost flavorless compared to honey other than it's sweet.

TheVoid said:

Sounds like sugar water or syrup (1 part water, 1 part sugar, reduced over heat by half). Sounds like a good alternative. I wonder how it tastes in coffee? Honey in coffee is gross to me. I usually buy and use raw sugar, or whatever unrefined stuff I can find. (Nothing white.)

ernestsewell said:

It would probably taste just like sugar because, as I've said, Agave is EXTREMELY mild.

I mean, I made dips with agave for my vegan rolls and such, and you'd never know it came from any type of tropical fruit at all. It's just that mild.

Great stuff to use as a sweetener.

i went to whole foods this week end and discovered:


i got cinnamin flavored.

ingredients: xylitol, enchinacea, licorice, guto kola, myrrh gum, natural flavors. gum arabic, soy lechithin, glycerin and carnuabwax

xylitol is. according to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol

Xylitol is a sugar alcohol sweetener used as a naturally occurring sugar substitute. It is found in the fibers of many fruits and vegetables, including various berries, corn husks, oats, and mushrooms. It can be extracted from corn fiber, birch, raspberries, plums, and corn. Xylitol is roughly as sweet as sucrose with only two-thirds the food energy. As with most sugar alcohols, initial consumption can result in bloating, diarrhea, and flatulence, although generally rather less so than other sugar alcohols like sorbitol.
Dietary use worldwide
Xylitol is widely used in Finland, its "home country." Many Finnish confectioneries employ xylitol, or have a xylitol version available. Virtually all chewing gum sold in Finland is sweetened with xylitol. Specific brands of sugarfree gum containing xylitol include Stride, Orbit, and Trident.