wait when was he in?

PricelessHo said:

Exactly.

And I'm sorry...but I still don't get why it is incumbent upon famous gay people (or any gay people, for that matter) to trumpet their sexuality. If that's what you want to do, great. But I don't get why it's expected (or demanded). Let people live their lives.

Genesia said:

I don't believe in "outing" but I do believe in the importance of folk being out.
When other minorities achieve milestones or set examples of success for younger generations it is more often than not visible and we still feel the need (often rightfully so) to announce or make note of their ethnicity or gender.
When gays do this, it is not as visible or even at all (Sean Hayes excluded ).
I think it's important for younger generations (or older ones for that matter) of gays to grow up seeing other folk like us achieve success while being proud in who they are.

You're right that people should let people live their lives, but the whole "what folk do in private" is a double edge sword. It can also fuel the notion that who people are should remain behind closed doors.
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he was never in. he used to refuse to say one way or another.

Genesia said:

I don't believe in "outing" but I do believe in the importance of folk being out.
When other minorities achieve milestones or set examples of success for younger generations it is more often than not visible and we still feel the need (often rightfully so) to announce or make note of their ethnicity or gender.
When gays do this, it is not as visible or even at all (Sean Hayes excluded ).
I think it's important for younger generations (or older ones for that matter) of gays to grow up seeing other folk like us achieve success while being proud in who they are.

You're right that people should let people live their lives, but the whole "what folk do in private" is a double edge sword. It can also fuel the notion that who people are should remain behind closed doors.
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I keep seeing "Sean Hannity" finally comes out.

When the fuck was he ever in?


I know there's (still) the whole deal of officially coming out and I know why it's important to do so, both for celebrities and regular people alike, but there are definitely those who it's just not necessary to announce it for people to know.

meow85 said:

To you and I and most of us. I gotta tell you, every now and then I come across someone whose cluelessness shocks the shit out of me.

Never underestimate just how dense folk can be.

Fine, good, I'm glad. But damn, I really do look forward to us being over this, as a culture.

PricelessHo said:

Exactly.

And I'm sorry...but I still don't get why it is incumbent upon famous gay people (or any gay people, for that matter) to trumpet their sexuality. If that's what you want to do, great. But I don't get why it's expected (or demanded). Let people live their lives.

^ sugar diabetes water.

^ sugar diabetes water.

meow85 said:

To you and I and most of us. I gotta tell you, every now and then I come across someone whose cluelessness shocks the shit out of me.

Never underestimate just how dense folk can be.

johnart said:

I still can't believe there were people surprised when Clay friggin' Aiken came out. I mean, really?

It's one thing when people are surprised when someone who doesn't match popular expectations and stereotypes of gay people come out; when a manly man or feminine woman do because there ARE so many people who still believe the cliches. But to be surprised when someone who is a living example of the trope comes out?