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Thread started 03/08/10 11:34am

TheVoid

SKINNY BITCH vs. SKINNY BASTARD

Has anybody read these books?

I skimmed through 'Skinny Bastard, and busted up laughing at the stuff.

Unless I'm totally wrong, it's essentially a vegetarian advocation masked by
some very humorous language. It starts off with the usual damning information
about soda, junk food, and complex carbs. Then goes into detail about fad diets
and how they suck too. But unlike other 'vegetarian lifestyle' books, it doesn't
hit you with a 'whammy' moment several chapters in. It actually tells you right
up front that eating meat is bad for you.

It also debunks the myth of soy being bad for men and linked to cancer because
it has two compounds that mimic human estrogen and 'might' be harmful at mega
high doses.

Anyways the major themes that I picked up from the book are:

1) Soda is evil. It doesn't have one ingredient that is good for you other than water.

2) Diet soda is even worse. Aspartame breaks down in the body and produces toxins like formaldehyde. It's also the #1 reported complaint to the FDA from
consumers for all sorts of ailments.

3) The chicken Mccnuget (and several fast food items) actually contains petroleum products to 'perserve' the product for ages.

4) 70% of antibiotics in the USA are given to cows. In Argentina, cows are fed grass and don't require antibiotics. Although fecal matter isn't permitted to be fed to cows anymore (due to mad cows disease), we're still feeding certain parts of the cow back to cows (because it's a cheap source of protein) and it is absolutely allowed by the FDA/USDA.

5) The USDA was set up originally as a way to help farmers financially succeed--not to protect Americans. Moreover, many of the persons in governmental positions actually have interest in large companies like Cargill, etc. etc.


Anyways, the list goes on and on.

But these books go beyond what the normal 'scare tactic' books do by actually being hilarious as hell. It's almost like listening to 'bar talk' but the subject is very serious.


Anyone read these books?
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Reply #1 posted 03/08/10 2:38pm

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I have skimmed Skinny Bitch and Skinny Bitch in the Kitch both were pretty humorous and almost made me want to attempt being vegan...Then I remembered how damn good cheese is drool
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Reply #2 posted 03/08/10 2:39pm

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Where is it written that propoganda can't be humorous?
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Reply #3 posted 03/08/10 2:42pm

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thekidsgirl said:

I have skimmed Skinny Bitch and Skinny Bitch in the Kitch both were pretty humorous and almost made me want to attempt being vegan...Then I remembered how damn good cheese is drool


Brie... faint

it's my dietary kryptonite...
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Reply #4 posted 03/08/10 3:08pm

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I just checked out their website and they have a page of links to "Products We Love."

Some of them look really yummy; others I've had and can testify that they're healthy and tasty. I like Food For Life breads and bagels a lot, even though the packaging is like a Bible made out of plastic wrap.

But the prices of *some* of these products are out of fucking control. $30 for a box of 12 cookies? TWELVE COOKIES. THIRTY DOLLARS. Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
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Reply #5 posted 03/08/10 5:44pm

TheVoid

Genesia said:

Where is it written that propoganda can't be humorous?

Written vegan/vegetarian propaganda seldom is. I've read quite a bit (China study, Becoming Vegan, etc. etc.). Some of it legitimately informative, and some of it taking great liberties in conjecture, but none of it particularly funny or entertaining.
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Reply #6 posted 03/08/10 6:02pm

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RenHoek said:

thekidsgirl said:

I have skimmed Skinny Bitch and Skinny Bitch in the Kitch both were pretty humorous and almost made me want to attempt being vegan...Then I remembered how damn good cheese is drool


Brie... faint

it's my dietary kryptonite...


see... just a few hours later and I've had half a wheel of that shit on warm pugliese... cheese drool
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Reply #7 posted 03/08/10 6:03pm

TheVoid

PunkMistress said:

I just checked out their website and they have a page of links to "Products We Love."

Some of them look really yummy; others I've had and can testify that they're healthy and tasty. I like Food For Life breads and bagels a lot, even though the packaging is like a Bible made out of plastic wrap.

But the prices of *some* of these products are out of fucking control. $30 for a box of 12 cookies? TWELVE COOKIES. THIRTY DOLLARS. Get the fuck outta here with that shit.



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I've been reading a book that details how food goes from the 'ground' to the 'plage', and I've shocked.

Most organic meats you buy at Wholefoods that says "free range" is actually not. For any chicken to be organic the government insist that the chickens have access to the outside world. But the chickens live only 7 weeks before slaughter, and the 'outside' world is available to them only the last 2 weeks. So for the first five weeks they are raised in very cramped (although not as cramped as non-organic) chickens indoors with no access to the outside. On the last two weeks, when the tiny doors in the large factories are open to a fenced yard outside, the chickens are so sufficiently used to their situations that none venture outside.

What makes them 'organic' is that they aren't given antibiotics, nor feed grains that have pesticides in them (they're feed organic food).

It's shocking what passes as 'organic'. It's lead a group of farmers to call themselves 'beyond organic' to indicate they're closer to the 'old macdonalds' arm than the current modern day incarnation of organic.

And despite the factory farming conditions, the meat is still quite a bit more expensive than non-organic.
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Reply #8 posted 03/09/10 4:18am

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RenHoek said:

RenHoek said:



Brie... faint

it's my dietary kryptonite...


see... just a few hours later and I've had half a wheel of that shit on warm pugliese... cheese drool



falloff can I have the other half, or is it gone now?!
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Reply #9 posted 03/09/10 8:32am

Ace

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Aspartame breaks down in the body and produces toxins like formaldehyde. It's also the #1 reported complaint to the FDA from
consumers for all sorts of ailments.

Wikipedia sez:

In 1987, the U.S. Government Accountability Office concluded that the food additive approval process had been followed for aspartame. Based on government research reviews and recommendations from advisory bodies such as the European Commission’s Scientific Committee on Food and the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives, aspartame has been found to be safe for human consumption by more than ninety countries worldwide. In 1999, FDA officials described the safety of aspartame as "clear cut" and stated that the product is "one of the most thoroughly tested and studied food additives the agency has ever approved." A 2007 safety evaluation found that the weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a non-nutritive sweetener.
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Reply #10 posted 03/09/10 9:26am

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thekidsgirl said:

RenHoek said:



see... just a few hours later and I've had half a wheel of that shit on warm pugliese... cheese drool



falloff can I have the other half, or is it gone now?!


oh it's here... but it's hours are numbered... drool
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Reply #11 posted 03/09/10 8:10pm

TheVoid

Ace said:

TheVoid said:

Aspartame breaks down in the body and produces toxins like formaldehyde. It's also the #1 reported complaint to the FDA from
consumers for all sorts of ailments.

Wikipedia sez:

In 1987, the U.S. Government Accountability Office concluded that the food additive approval process had been followed for aspartame. Based on government research reviews and recommendations from advisory bodies such as the European Commission’s Scientific Committee on Food and the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives, aspartame has been found to be safe for human consumption by more than ninety countries worldwide. In 1999, FDA officials described the safety of aspartame as "clear cut" and stated that the product is "one of the most thoroughly tested and studied food additives the agency has ever approved." A 2007 safety evaluation found that the weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a non-nutritive sweetener.



I know what the FDA and USDA say. They're the ones who also ok'd the feeding of fecal mater to cows before mad cow desease took off. This is not to say they don't have a use, but they're not perfect. The USDA is an extension of the the farming industry in all honesty.

The FDA itself lists 92 'side affects' of consuming aspertame, among them are:
1. admonimal pain
2. memory loss
3. nerve cell damage
4. brain lesions
5. food cravings and weight gain

and the list goes on and on.

It's also the was denied approval 9 times before Arthur Hull Hayes managed to get it approved. The Internatl Department of Health and Human Services investigated Hayes for accepting bribes from FDA-regulated companies (Searle, the maker of Aspertame being one of them), and the two attorneys assigned to the case decline to prosecute Hayes. All 3 (Hayes, and the two attorneys) shortly thereafter went to work for Searle, the company that makes Aspertame.
Donald Rumsfeld also assisted in the approval of Nutrasweet.

Essentially, I don't believe the FDA's concerning aspartame because I've lost faith that they have the American consumer's best interest in mind. They were 20 years behind the ball on hydrogenated oils, and hydrogenated oils are still everywhere despite the fact we know it's killing us.

Coupled with the fact that aspertame hasn't even been proven to reduce weight (and indeed Americans are fatter than ever), the clear case for it's continued use and promotion is that it is so incredibly cheap for companies to use it in their products.


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[Edited 3/9/10 20:11pm]
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