Cinnie said:

A piece of paper is no guarnatee the bond will last.

I don't know why. Maybe he doesn't want to get married and she respects that. I personally never, ever, ever want to get married.

Vendetta1 said:

That's all I'm askin' is why

Cinnie said:

I think johnny has spoken out on this before. If I come across it, I'll post it for you.

Cinnie said:

but that's like comparing 2 lives to a fancy piece of paper

sammij said:

I'm just saying obviously the belief in the future, commitment, and (now) history is there - why not?

Seems to me I've read Johnny say (more than once) in interviews that he'd marry Vanessa anytime, anyplace, as soon as she agrees and wants to...from my understanding, she's the one not feeling the burning need to actually get married.

And FWIW, and not that it really means anything now in regards to his opinion on being married, Johnny WAS married once, and has been engaged like 10 times...

RubyButterfly said:

Well, thank you for clearing that up. I imagine Angelina Jolie is going to remind Vanessa of the technicalities of having no rings.

Cinnie said:

Vanessa seems like she might be the kind who'd remind Angelina of a few things, too...WITH HER FIST.

Cinnie said:

Money I bet.

there aren't too many places in the world where an unmarried woman can get a fair monetary settlement once her man decides to dump her. I think France is similar to the US in that if a woman is wifed,,,she can expect her man to be financially obligated once he dumps her and the kids. Vanessa, god bless her, is simply a girlfriend in the eyes of the law. If Johnny doesn't want her anymore all he will pay is child support...she may not be entitled to a spousal support or even something similar without having to prove she was indeed a wife without the title. Think it works for the men as well but not certain. I've heard France is more liberal towards spouses seeking support than even the US's California where couples have to divide everything 50/50. What does one do when they've always stayed home and raised the kids and kept the house and then all of a sudden the person you loved and depended on says CYA! Kirsty Alley's ex found himself in such a position and when they divorced he got big bucks and rightfully so.

Cinnie said:

Go play Joni's My Old Man and shut up!

dag said:

Maybe they don't feel like it? Plenty of people have long-term healthy relationships without legal marriage. It's not that weird.

dag said:

They are probably content and happy with just living together and don't feel that marriage is a requirement for their relationship. Some people feel that way and fear that marriage would ruin everything. As long as they are happy and it works for them, more power to them.

Vendetta1 said:

See I don't look at marriage as just "a piece of paper". It's a commitment you make officially in front of God. But if they don't want to take that step, and they are happy, then oh well, that's their life, I have nothing to do with it.

Cinnie said:

I definitely feel you on what you are saying, but its like what I said before, if they both are comfortable with just being together without the commitment of marriage, then so be it. I personally wouldn't stay with someone for 10 years or more and with 2 kids or more without having being married, but that's just me. Different strokes for different folks. Plus Johnny has been engaged upteen times, he's probably done with the whole marriage thing.

DesireeNevermind said:

you are so right.

missfee said:

Other than disagreeing on the piece of paper thing, I agree with this.

Vendetta1 said:

Vendetta1 said:

the way I see it (and I know not everyone feels the same way about it) is that marriage is another step up in level of commitment. If only one partner in a couple feels that way about marriage, it will seem to that one the other isn't willing to take the next step, whilst the other thinks of themselves as already as committed as they will ever be. Misery ensues

ZombieKitten said:

I agree.

missfee said:

What's the difference between marriage and living together in a committed relationship without the paperwork? Practically and emotionally speaking, I mean. As far as I can see the only difference is a legal one.

If Johnny's GF is worried about someone trying to steal her man, it should be Tim Burton.

Cinnie said:

Plenty of everyday European couples choose common law marriage over church marriages. I know many couples that have have unwed, monogamous relationships with happy well-adjusted children/families, and they've been together anywhere from 13-25 years. I think it just looks weird to us North Americans because (at least in the States) we don't have very many successful examples (celebrity or otherwise) to look to. Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell finally called it quits, but for about 25 years, they were pretty much the only public figures we could look to as a kind of "poster couple" for monogamous committed relationships that didn't involve marriage.

Entertainment and Showbiz

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March 7 2010.
Johnny Depp and Angelina Jolie making out a reason to worry for Vanessa Paradis!

We really can’t blame a lady when she sees her beau in the arms of a hot female and who has a track record of dating several committed men, isn’t it? So is the case with Vanessa Paradis, Johnny Depp’s longtime girlfriend and a French supermodel who has gone nervous to see Depp and Angelina Jolie making out in their forthcoming film “The Tourist”!
New York Post and Daily Mail report that Johnny Depp’s French girlfriend Vanessa Paradis has forbidden her man to do the love making scenes and in fact told him to stop shooting for the film altogether! Vanessa, who has two kids with Johnny Depp, has been with the “Pirates of the Caribbean” star since 12years.
Vanessa has reasons enough to be concerned about. First of all the sex scenes are way too steamy for the supermodel to handle. The scenes are too long and intense. The scene rolls in as Angelina is shot naked under shower. Depp holds her wet body and stars kissing frantically, while Jolie kisses him back wrapping her legs around his back. And hence the scene continues with getting hotter and finally resulting to a passionate lovemaking.
The other and the most important reason for Paradis to be tensed about is Jolie’s past records of stealing married or engaged men! Needless to say Brad Pitt was married to Jennifer Aniston when Mr. & Mrs. Smith was shot and had similar raunchy scenes that lead to the romantic involvement of Pitt and Jolie later.
Looking back, Jolie snatched many other men like Sir Mick Jagger, Antonio Banderas, Jolie’s mother’s boyfriend and Billy Bob Thornton who all were either dating someone or were married.
Now it’s upto Depp to decide whether or not he would leave “The Tourist” supporting Vanessa or would continue with Jolie in the film.
And suppose he leaves, we would be eager to know who would replace Depp as the Interpol agent whom the sexy tourist Jolie seduces!

famous quote: If you love something, set it free; if it comes back it's yours, if it doesn't, it never was. by Richard Bach

Vendetta1 said:

Or maybe she doesn't want to get married. Maybe neither of them want to get married. From over here they always look happy enough to me. More power to them and may they continue on however they like.

meow85 said:

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Ottensen said:

And let's not forget Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon.

I don't give a single fuck, actually.




Fuck Hollywood. Seriously.






Fuck Hollywood.

missfee said:

I totally forgot about them! And they've even made it to senior citizen status together

Tabloid bullshit.